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It is more or less the same with semipostals from the Netherlands from the 1970s to 1990s. They are priced in Scott as if they are something really special, but one should be happy to sell them at just above a minimum price.
No idea what is the reason for this. There are also many examples where it is the other way: low valuation in Scott, much higher in most other catalogues...
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Try Italian states.
I think Rodolfo mentioned that one!
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"The majority of the older issues in Germany when they are in a Used condition have higher catalog values in Scott than what is seen in the various selling platforms for these stamps."
Are you taking about german stamps from the 1920's till the 1930's ?
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It all depends on the periode of issue.
Classical stamps,till the introduction of the Mark-currency 1875,
depend very much on condition.
Centering is not that important,but should be fine to very fine.
Cut for imperforates and a near to perfection perforation on perforated stamps
are listed as catalogue values.
There are exceptions,like Württemberg,where listed condition can change from issue to issue.
Stamps from 1875-till WW I must have a near perfect perforation,
(no shortish perfs etc) must be clean and have a readable cancel.
Such stamps are listed in catalogues.
Inflation issues (End of WWI till Nov.1923) are a special field,
dominated by their cancellation.
Modern stamps from Dec.1923 till today are listed as stamps,
where place and date of the cancellation are readable,
with perfect perforation (some exceptions).
All stamps what do not meet these criteria,are cheaper,
mostly very much cheaper.
So f.i. a stamp with a round-cancel corner cancellation will be worth
approx. 50% cat.,those with wave or banner-cancels 10% at best.
All this is true for "Main-Germany".Special parts,
like WWII or post-war issues may differ.
But usually that will be mentioned in the cat.
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IMHO, catalog prices seem (are) to be set by the printer of each catalog, not by some philatelic group of professionals who meet daily to figure out how much the price of a stamp should be. That is an impossible task, to say the least. Catalog prices should reflect just how much the "real" value of any stamp, not what someone decides where to price it. How many $100 stamps (supposedly recent c.v.) have been purchased for only $5 or less, on the open market. If the catalog manufactures did not change so many prices in their publications, why would anyone keep buying new catalogs? Simple economics!!! But, if so many catalogs did not get sold, how would the manufacturer's survive? On the other hand, why do too many sellers advertise a CV at one price and sell it at a much lower price? Probably not supply and demand, but what is it?????? In reality, why do they keep changing the cheapest stamps a nickel every year? Who buys cheap stamps from dealers anyway? That's what we use the internet for. And that is the main reason I do not buy new catalogs every year and never will, I promise. But then I have been called a cheapskate, but who cares? My collection keeps growing by leaps and bounds and I'm not bragging!
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This has been something that has bothered me for "many many" years. I assume someone here may know the reason why. The majority of the older issues in Germany when they are in a Used condition have higher catalog values in Scott than what is seen in the various selling platforms for these stamps. For example a stamp could have a catalog value of $2.00 however you can see mutiple used copies of the stamp available for as low as 25 cents. Does anyone know why Scott values these older German issues so high ? I have so many of them and it is not worth the effort to try selling them because they really are so common and would never sell at higher prices. I never thought to ask the question here. Any ideas ? Thanks, Steve
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It is more or less the same with semipostals from the Netherlands from the 1970s to 1990s. They are priced in Scott as if they are something really special, but one should be happy to sell them at just above a minimum price.
No idea what is the reason for this. There are also many examples where it is the other way: low valuation in Scott, much higher in most other catalogues...
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Try Italian states.
I think Rodolfo mentioned that one!
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"The majority of the older issues in Germany when they are in a Used condition have higher catalog values in Scott than what is seen in the various selling platforms for these stamps."
Are you taking about german stamps from the 1920's till the 1930's ?
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re: Older German Issues
It all depends on the periode of issue.
Classical stamps,till the introduction of the Mark-currency 1875,
depend very much on condition.
Centering is not that important,but should be fine to very fine.
Cut for imperforates and a near to perfection perforation on perforated stamps
are listed as catalogue values.
There are exceptions,like Württemberg,where listed condition can change from issue to issue.
Stamps from 1875-till WW I must have a near perfect perforation,
(no shortish perfs etc) must be clean and have a readable cancel.
Such stamps are listed in catalogues.
Inflation issues (End of WWI till Nov.1923) are a special field,
dominated by their cancellation.
Modern stamps from Dec.1923 till today are listed as stamps,
where place and date of the cancellation are readable,
with perfect perforation (some exceptions).
All stamps what do not meet these criteria,are cheaper,
mostly very much cheaper.
So f.i. a stamp with a round-cancel corner cancellation will be worth
approx. 50% cat.,those with wave or banner-cancels 10% at best.
All this is true for "Main-Germany".Special parts,
like WWII or post-war issues may differ.
But usually that will be mentioned in the cat.
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IMHO, catalog prices seem (are) to be set by the printer of each catalog, not by some philatelic group of professionals who meet daily to figure out how much the price of a stamp should be. That is an impossible task, to say the least. Catalog prices should reflect just how much the "real" value of any stamp, not what someone decides where to price it. How many $100 stamps (supposedly recent c.v.) have been purchased for only $5 or less, on the open market. If the catalog manufactures did not change so many prices in their publications, why would anyone keep buying new catalogs? Simple economics!!! But, if so many catalogs did not get sold, how would the manufacturer's survive? On the other hand, why do too many sellers advertise a CV at one price and sell it at a much lower price? Probably not supply and demand, but what is it?????? In reality, why do they keep changing the cheapest stamps a nickel every year? Who buys cheap stamps from dealers anyway? That's what we use the internet for. And that is the main reason I do not buy new catalogs every year and never will, I promise. But then I have been called a cheapskate, but who cares? My collection keeps growing by leaps and bounds and I'm not bragging!
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