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27 May 2022
11:24:41am

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I can not find this stamp in the catalog. I need the catalog number.

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27 May 2022
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It must be a new issue in this current series

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27 May 2022
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This would have been issued before February , 2022 as I have had it since the beginning of the year.

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27 May 2022
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Try 2015. This link has image.
https://www.freestampcatalogue.com/szdp ...


Main product: szd31501
Country: Sweden
Year: 2015
Nr. Fsc: 31501
Nr. Michel: 3023/24
Is Unique: No
Entry Date: 26 Nov 2020
Product Type: Stamps Series

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27 May 2022
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Similar design but different colors? Or could the background color have faded? Color changeling maybe?



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27 May 2022
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Theresa you are correct it is not the same stamp. The design under the crown is different ( does this relate to year of issue?)

Edit. Or is it, difficult to see on the link site.

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27 May 2022
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"Similar design but different colors? Or could the background color have faded? Color changeling maybe?
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Theresa it could be a changeling.

I have posted below the stamp in question with the stamp you showed.

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27 May 2022
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It looks like the original image has a date along the right side margin, looks like 2015 but difficult to see. Possibly a colour change or misprint, or maybe from a souvenir sheet.
Edit:- the perfs are die cut so probably from a s/a issue (booklet?) rather than a sheet.

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27 May 2022
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Look at the top left corner of the design and see a die cut in the shape of a crown.

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27 May 2022
08:23:07pm
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That’s interesting. The mystery continues. I missed that one, too.

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28 May 2022
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Oh good catch on the die cut crown!

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28 May 2022
07:22:24pm

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With no answer so far as to a catalog number.

If I find the catalog number or other information, I will post it here.

Thank you for all the comments.

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28 May 2022
07:39:12pm
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Doug, In looking at the perfs, your ones differ from that of the web link, The latter seem to have a crown type cut whereas your stamp is plain, so is it possibly a forgery?

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29 May 2022
07:35:18am
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Anyone notice number 6 the on the collar.

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29 May 2022
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Good catch Opa, had not noticed it before your mention. Does not look to be part of the franking.

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29 May 2022
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Doug, I have been in touch with Jay who runs a Scandinavian stamp website jsmith.com (sales and listings) but he has not dealt with Swedish new issues since about 2014. Part of his reply is the following:-

I am afraid that you may have to find somebody in Sweden to assist you
on this query.

I don't know if he responds to such inquiries, but here is the contact
information for the editor of the Facit Catalog (the primary catalog in
Sweden). DON'T be offended if you don't get a reply -- I often don't
receive a reply when he is busy.

Gunnar Lithen; gunnar.lithen@facit.se


Maybe worth an email with a good scan of your stamp.

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29 May 2022
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Thank you Vic I have just sent an email to gunnar.lithen@facit.se

Now wait and see if I get a reply.

I also search Stamp World and nothing listed.

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30 May 2022
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Hi,
I don´t collect Sweden after 1980 but as far as I know all Swedish stamps should have text in the margin, or in the picture, what year it was released, who has made the original and also, on engraved stamps. who the engraver is . This has been the case for many, many years.
I also know that there are a lot of forgeries on modern Swedish stamps. I have a friend who has spezialized on modern forgeries and he think this is the case but he hasn´t seen this one himself.

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30 May 2022
11:17:53am
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If you look hard there is a text on the right right side. It looks a very faded.

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30 May 2022
11:36:38am

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Here is the stamp scanned at 1200 also a closeup of the side which looks like it has text.

The text looks like issued in 2015.

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30 May 2022
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The text is the same as on the web page image.
Is the die cut crown actually cut through or is it printed on?
With regard to the "6" on the collar I'm wondering if it could be from the franking machine as an id, do you have any other similar cancellations to examine for a similar number.
The actual perforations still look slightly different to my eyes, but that could just be an age thing!

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30 May 2022
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The die cut is cut through.

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30 May 2022
04:46:25pm

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This is the stamp I am trying to identify.

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Close up of text on the stamp

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This is a stamp from my collection

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This is a closeup of the text from stamp above.

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Both stamps have a die cut crown.

So I am now thinking that the top stamp has faded.

Any thoughts.

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31 May 2022
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I don't know. It seems to me that the one at the bottom (the identified one) is printed in various tones of one colour. It would not make sense, at least not to me, that only the background faded and the picture of the king didn't. On the other hand, the colours used for the king are not the same in these two stamps.
Furthermore, the line of the text seems to be magenta just as the king, so it should have stayed the same instead of turning grey.
It is a strange thing. I hope the Swedish editor of the Facit catalogue knows more.

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31 May 2022
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The stamp is off paper, but appears to be a self-adhesive. Perhaps some used a chemical to remove the stamp and the ink used for the background reacted.

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31 May 2022
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"The stamp is off paper, but appears to be a self-adhesive. Perhaps some used a chemical to remove the stamp and the ink used for the background reacted. "




The stamp was removed from paper with just plain water.


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31 May 2022
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Oh! If it soaked off that easily, it must be an older issue. Isn’t 2017 the year Sweden started issuing stamps that will not soak with just water?

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31 May 2022
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I am not sure when it started but new stamps issued by PostNord for both Denmark and Sweden are impossible to soak...

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01 Jun 2022
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I received this email today.

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Hi Doug,

The day of issue was 2015-01-15.

This stamp lack the background colour and the text on the right margin.

So it can be either waste paper stamp from printing or part of example for different printing stages.

If I will see another like this again, I´ll let You know.

Best regards,

FACIT Förlags AB

Gunnar Lithén

Editor in ch"

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27 May 2022
11:24:41am

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I can not find this stamp in the catalog. I need the catalog number.

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Thank you for any help.

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It must be a new issue in this current series

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This would have been issued before February , 2022 as I have had it since the beginning of the year.

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27 May 2022
04:27:36pm

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Try 2015. This link has image.
https://www.freestampcatalogue.com/szdp ...


Main product: szd31501
Country: Sweden
Year: 2015
Nr. Fsc: 31501
Nr. Michel: 3023/24
Is Unique: No
Entry Date: 26 Nov 2020
Product Type: Stamps Series

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Similar design but different colors? Or could the background color have faded? Color changeling maybe?



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27 May 2022
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Theresa you are correct it is not the same stamp. The design under the crown is different ( does this relate to year of issue?)

Edit. Or is it, difficult to see on the link site.

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"Similar design but different colors? Or could the background color have faded? Color changeling maybe?
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Theresa it could be a changeling.

I have posted below the stamp in question with the stamp you showed.

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It looks like the original image has a date along the right side margin, looks like 2015 but difficult to see. Possibly a colour change or misprint, or maybe from a souvenir sheet.
Edit:- the perfs are die cut so probably from a s/a issue (booklet?) rather than a sheet.

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Look at the top left corner of the design and see a die cut in the shape of a crown.

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That’s interesting. The mystery continues. I missed that one, too.

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Oh good catch on the die cut crown!

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28 May 2022
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With no answer so far as to a catalog number.

If I find the catalog number or other information, I will post it here.

Thank you for all the comments.

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Doug, In looking at the perfs, your ones differ from that of the web link, The latter seem to have a crown type cut whereas your stamp is plain, so is it possibly a forgery?

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29 May 2022
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Anyone notice number 6 the on the collar.

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Good catch Opa, had not noticed it before your mention. Does not look to be part of the franking.

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Doug, I have been in touch with Jay who runs a Scandinavian stamp website jsmith.com (sales and listings) but he has not dealt with Swedish new issues since about 2014. Part of his reply is the following:-

I am afraid that you may have to find somebody in Sweden to assist you
on this query.

I don't know if he responds to such inquiries, but here is the contact
information for the editor of the Facit Catalog (the primary catalog in
Sweden). DON'T be offended if you don't get a reply -- I often don't
receive a reply when he is busy.

Gunnar Lithen; gunnar.lithen@facit.se


Maybe worth an email with a good scan of your stamp.

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Thank you Vic I have just sent an email to gunnar.lithen@facit.se

Now wait and see if I get a reply.

I also search Stamp World and nothing listed.

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Hi,
I don´t collect Sweden after 1980 but as far as I know all Swedish stamps should have text in the margin, or in the picture, what year it was released, who has made the original and also, on engraved stamps. who the engraver is . This has been the case for many, many years.
I also know that there are a lot of forgeries on modern Swedish stamps. I have a friend who has spezialized on modern forgeries and he think this is the case but he hasn´t seen this one himself.

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30 May 2022
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If you look hard there is a text on the right right side. It looks a very faded.

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Here is the stamp scanned at 1200 also a closeup of the side which looks like it has text.

The text looks like issued in 2015.

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The text is the same as on the web page image.
Is the die cut crown actually cut through or is it printed on?
With regard to the "6" on the collar I'm wondering if it could be from the franking machine as an id, do you have any other similar cancellations to examine for a similar number.
The actual perforations still look slightly different to my eyes, but that could just be an age thing!

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The die cut is cut through.

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This is the stamp I am trying to identify.

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Close up of text on the stamp

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This is a stamp from my collection

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This is a closeup of the text from stamp above.

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Both stamps have a die cut crown.

So I am now thinking that the top stamp has faded.

Any thoughts.

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I don't know. It seems to me that the one at the bottom (the identified one) is printed in various tones of one colour. It would not make sense, at least not to me, that only the background faded and the picture of the king didn't. On the other hand, the colours used for the king are not the same in these two stamps.
Furthermore, the line of the text seems to be magenta just as the king, so it should have stayed the same instead of turning grey.
It is a strange thing. I hope the Swedish editor of the Facit catalogue knows more.

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The stamp is off paper, but appears to be a self-adhesive. Perhaps some used a chemical to remove the stamp and the ink used for the background reacted.

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"The stamp is off paper, but appears to be a self-adhesive. Perhaps some used a chemical to remove the stamp and the ink used for the background reacted. "




The stamp was removed from paper with just plain water.


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Oh! If it soaked off that easily, it must be an older issue. Isn’t 2017 the year Sweden started issuing stamps that will not soak with just water?

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I am not sure when it started but new stamps issued by PostNord for both Denmark and Sweden are impossible to soak...

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I received this email today.

"
Hi Doug,

The day of issue was 2015-01-15.

This stamp lack the background colour and the text on the right margin.

So it can be either waste paper stamp from printing or part of example for different printing stages.

If I will see another like this again, I´ll let You know.

Best regards,

FACIT Förlags AB

Gunnar Lithén

Editor in ch"

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