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StanC
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06 Sep 2014
09:10:28pm
These stamps are in the "International Junior Postage Stamp Album" under the heading of Epirus. I'm trying to get a feel if I need to invest in a worldwide catalog. I've got the 2014 US Specialized Catalog from Scott.

Can someone help with these? Thanks.


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06 Sep 2014
10:00:38pm
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This link seems to place them as part of Greece, the stamps shown in the link have the same spelling as on yours. n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postage_stamps_and_postal_history_of_Northern_Epirus

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07 Sep 2014
08:50:53am
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Stanc, worldwide catalogs are expensive...i am using the 2012 Scott edition ..6 volumes A to Z and i do not see purchasing later editions in the near future. Where you are at in collectiong you can purchase a 2 or 3 year old set of catalogs for a fraction of what the new ones cost. Or you could purchase a single catalog if you are only interested in certain countries..i use the Scott G to I catalog quite a bit..it has Germany,Ireland,Italy etc; etc. Like with anything else..shop around !

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07 Sep 2014
09:07:20am
re: What are these stamps?

Thanks Phil. My Grandfather's collection has two catalogs in it:

Standard Postage & Stamps Catalog - 1945 Combined Edition - Scott Publications, Inc - New York
Scott's United States Stamp Catalog - Specialized - 1966 Edition

I'm under the assumption that I can use these for everything but current stamp values. They will be great for identifying stamps, but they're even greater collector's items.

I'm not looking to sell any of the stamps in the collection currently, but I am looking to inventory the collection.

I'm finding that the more I learn about philately, the more I need to learn. Any advice as always is greatly appreciated.

Stan

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07 Sep 2014
09:40:42am
re: What are these stamps?

HappyStanC- You could also buy catalog pages for the particular countries you collect at major savings from buying complete catalogs. Welcome to Sor.Big Grin

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07 Sep 2014
11:16:56am
re: What are these stamps?

Stan

I would be hesitant to rely on catalogs almost 50 years old. While most data may be accurate, Scott does occasionally change its numbering system. If you ask around at your local stamp club, I'll bet you can find a full set of Scott catalogs from the 1990s or later either free or for very little.

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07 Sep 2014
11:45:27am
re: What are these stamps?

Not only do numbering systems change, but the editors may delete or add listings at any time. Some examples:

• New varieties are always being discovered, and added, to catalogues.

• Worsening political weather can result in embargoes being placed on stamps from "enemy" countries; for example, until the U.S. recognized the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, 20 years after the Vietnam War, the Scott catalogue did not include any stamps of North Vietnam. Now it does.

• Stamps of Tannu Tuva weren't included in Scott until postally used examples were discovered; prior to that, they were considered to be labels.

I'm sure that there are a great many other examples of stamps that won't be found in old catalogues. On the other hand, there are no doubt some stamps in older catalogues that don't appear in recent ones, which is why it's good to have some older catalogues laying around.

Also, collectors who decide to collect individual countries, or regions, or topics will be well advised to purchase specialized catalogues. I briefly visited a friend yesterday; when I arrived, he was working on his collection of Canadian Centennial Issue stamps, of which there are more than 700 listed basic stamps and varieties. He couldn't do it without the most recent edition of the Unitrade specialized Canada catalogue. My Scott catalogue (it's old, 1994) lists only 56 basic stamps and varieties.

Bob

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07 Sep 2014
02:24:53pm
re: What are these stamps?

Hi Stan,

This is a local issue from the town of Moschopolis which was then in Epirus and is now Voskopojë in southern Albania.

Here's a link showing full set of fifteen:

Moschopolis Issue

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08 Sep 2014
06:26:33am

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Michel considers these stamps as "Machwerke", privately produced labels that have no proven postal use. Scott says more or less the same.

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08 Sep 2014
08:25:54am
re: What are these stamps?

Thanks Jansimon. I was going through an album of my grandfather, and was just trying to figure out what countries I would like to try to collect on top of the US. I was thinking about collecting the cool no longer existent countries.

Stan

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08 Sep 2014
02:58:24pm
re: What are these stamps?

If you're interested in dead countries, here's a great collection.

http://www.dcstamps.com/


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20 Oct 2014
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re: What are these stamps?

In the 1940s-0s, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were for all practical purposes "dead countries".
Guess what ?
And then there are the nations that were absorbed into Jugoslavia for fifty years or more.
Opps, Lazarus risen !!!

That would be a neat collection "Lazarus Countries."
Or it could be called "Lazarine Nations."

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StanC

06 Sep 2014
09:10:28pm

These stamps are in the "International Junior Postage Stamp Album" under the heading of Epirus. I'm trying to get a feel if I need to invest in a worldwide catalog. I've got the 2014 US Specialized Catalog from Scott.

Can someone help with these? Thanks.


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06 Sep 2014
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re: What are these stamps?

This link seems to place them as part of Greece, the stamps shown in the link have the same spelling as on yours. n.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postage_stamps_and_postal_history_of_Northern_Epirus

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07 Sep 2014
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re: What are these stamps?

Stanc, worldwide catalogs are expensive...i am using the 2012 Scott edition ..6 volumes A to Z and i do not see purchasing later editions in the near future. Where you are at in collectiong you can purchase a 2 or 3 year old set of catalogs for a fraction of what the new ones cost. Or you could purchase a single catalog if you are only interested in certain countries..i use the Scott G to I catalog quite a bit..it has Germany,Ireland,Italy etc; etc. Like with anything else..shop around !

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07 Sep 2014
09:07:20am

re: What are these stamps?

Thanks Phil. My Grandfather's collection has two catalogs in it:

Standard Postage & Stamps Catalog - 1945 Combined Edition - Scott Publications, Inc - New York
Scott's United States Stamp Catalog - Specialized - 1966 Edition

I'm under the assumption that I can use these for everything but current stamp values. They will be great for identifying stamps, but they're even greater collector's items.

I'm not looking to sell any of the stamps in the collection currently, but I am looking to inventory the collection.

I'm finding that the more I learn about philately, the more I need to learn. Any advice as always is greatly appreciated.

Stan

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07 Sep 2014
09:40:42am

re: What are these stamps?

HappyStanC- You could also buy catalog pages for the particular countries you collect at major savings from buying complete catalogs. Welcome to Sor.Big Grin

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Stan

I would be hesitant to rely on catalogs almost 50 years old. While most data may be accurate, Scott does occasionally change its numbering system. If you ask around at your local stamp club, I'll bet you can find a full set of Scott catalogs from the 1990s or later either free or for very little.

Bobby

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07 Sep 2014
11:45:27am

re: What are these stamps?

Not only do numbering systems change, but the editors may delete or add listings at any time. Some examples:

• New varieties are always being discovered, and added, to catalogues.

• Worsening political weather can result in embargoes being placed on stamps from "enemy" countries; for example, until the U.S. recognized the Socialist Republic of Vietnam, 20 years after the Vietnam War, the Scott catalogue did not include any stamps of North Vietnam. Now it does.

• Stamps of Tannu Tuva weren't included in Scott until postally used examples were discovered; prior to that, they were considered to be labels.

I'm sure that there are a great many other examples of stamps that won't be found in old catalogues. On the other hand, there are no doubt some stamps in older catalogues that don't appear in recent ones, which is why it's good to have some older catalogues laying around.

Also, collectors who decide to collect individual countries, or regions, or topics will be well advised to purchase specialized catalogues. I briefly visited a friend yesterday; when I arrived, he was working on his collection of Canadian Centennial Issue stamps, of which there are more than 700 listed basic stamps and varieties. He couldn't do it without the most recent edition of the Unitrade specialized Canada catalogue. My Scott catalogue (it's old, 1994) lists only 56 basic stamps and varieties.

Bob

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07 Sep 2014
02:24:53pm

re: What are these stamps?

Hi Stan,

This is a local issue from the town of Moschopolis which was then in Epirus and is now Voskopojë in southern Albania.

Here's a link showing full set of fifteen:

Moschopolis Issue

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Jansimon

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08 Sep 2014
06:26:33am

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re: What are these stamps?

Michel considers these stamps as "Machwerke", privately produced labels that have no proven postal use. Scott says more or less the same.

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StanC

08 Sep 2014
08:25:54am

re: What are these stamps?

Thanks Jansimon. I was going through an album of my grandfather, and was just trying to figure out what countries I would like to try to collect on top of the US. I was thinking about collecting the cool no longer existent countries.

Stan

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AirmailEd

08 Sep 2014
02:58:24pm

re: What are these stamps?

If you're interested in dead countries, here's a great collection.

http://www.dcstamps.com/


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re: What are these stamps?

In the 1940s-0s, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania were for all practical purposes "dead countries".
Guess what ?
And then there are the nations that were absorbed into Jugoslavia for fifty years or more.
Opps, Lazarus risen !!!

That would be a neat collection "Lazarus Countries."
Or it could be called "Lazarine Nations."

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