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05 Jul 2014
08:44:55am
I have so far only used a Norwegian catalogue for identifying stamps (only sorted norwegian stamps so far too), but considering getting a few catalogues so I can start on the foreign stamps (everything but Norwegian Winking).

I am slightly confused about what type of catalogues to get though. I see some are region based (west-europe, east-europe, etc.). The region based catalogue contains for example Norway. What is the difference on a Norway only catalogue and a region-based catalogue containing Norway? Will the region based one not contain all the Norwegian stamps? Or is it just the amount of details?

I've also seen, for example, a German catalogue and then the same company has a Specialized German catalogue. What is the difference in a "normal" country catalogue and a specialized one?

Catalogues are kinda expensive, so don't want to buy something that I don't really want or need. Any advice on catalogue is appreciated. At the moment I guess I will be collecting world-wide. Would a region-based catalogue be sufficient to identify all stamps?
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05 Jul 2014
10:38:44am
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Have you searched for any stamp clubs in your area? Stamp Club people love new collectors and will be more than willing to help you out. When i started out i preferred to spend on stamps more than catalogs...i would buy perhaps one scott catalog a year...usually the one with countries G to I ...or i would purchase a two year old set of 6 Scott catalogs countries A to Z for a price i could afford. I do not know if you are in the United States or Canada...if so i would take advantage of the reference section of your local library..chances are they have books on stamps. Stamp collecting is a complex thing..the deeper i get the deeper i get !Happy

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05 Jul 2014
10:45:19am
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One more thing...are you certain you want to collect worldwide?...i have spent thousands filling spaces in scott international albums....but i doubt a dealer would offer me much of anything for them...i still buy stamps to fill spaces in them for my own satisfaction...but i also collect specialized countries..where i feel the money is better spent !

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05 Jul 2014
11:15:37am
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"I do not know if you are in the United States or Canada...if so i would take advantage of the reference section of your local library..chances are they have books on stamps."



I'm in Norway, Europe Happy I'll check out the local library and see what they have. Thanks for the tip!

"One more thing...are you certain you want to collect worldwide?"



Collecting worldwide might not be the right wording, I guess I want to be able to identify worldwide. So far I've only bought kiloware, and in the bags there are stamps from all over the world (it seems). I want to be able to identify them before trading or selling any that I don't want to keep in my collection.
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05 Jul 2014
11:37:36am
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Well have fun, thats the main thing...if we did not enjoy it we wouldn't be doing it !!!

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05 Jul 2014
02:07:32pm
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Welcome Makazi,
Your philatelic library will grow as you do. Don't be too quick to jump into any particular direction just yet. As for your question about general vs. specialized volumes:
once you're set into a particular direction (say Norway) then you will find that there are many varieties of a particular stamp- that's where the specialized volume comes into play.

This may seem incredible to you right now, but I know of a collector whose total collection is of a single stamp! There are color shades,perforation differences, flat and rotary printings,grills and re-entries that keep this collector fascinated and happy.

There are other collectors whose collections take up entire rooms! Just take Phil's advice-enjoy to the max!!.

Catalogs can be found both new and used-search around and you'll save yourself many bucks. Sometimes great finds can be had in library sales!

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05 Jul 2014
03:45:45pm
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"This may seem incredible to you right now, but I know of a collector whose total collection is of a single stamp! There are color shades,perforation differences, flat and rotary printings,grills and re-entries that keep this collector fascinated and happy."



That's pretty awesome! Just today when sorting and identifying some stamps, I found 3 variations of a stamp - 1 with normal paper, and 2 with different fluorescent paper. They are printed at different years, with same picture and face value.

In addition to checking out the local library, I'll keep an eye out for catalogues on sale. I guess the Norwegian catalogue I have is specialized since it has many details about variations. Until I figure out what else to specialize in, the catalogues I'll be looking for will be covering multiple nations.

Nations that I think I might be interested in is Denmark, Germany and Australia. Danish and German catalogues should be easy to find here, but not sure about Australian catalogue. Any recommendations for an Australian catalogue to keep an eye out for is appreciated Happy
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05 Jul 2014
06:54:51pm
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A friend in Australia sent me this which should do nicely for you...i do not know what it cost..but you should be able to find a copy..probably used for not too much money on an Amazon.com type site !Image Not Found

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05 Jul 2014
06:57:48pm
re: Types of catalogues? What to get?

I would second philb's suggestion to see if there is a local stamp club that you can join. They may have catalogs in their library or be willing to discuss them with you in detail.

There is a list of stamp clubs in Norway at http://filatelist.no/frimerkeklubber-i-norge-5753

One thing to consider when choosing between catalogs is what catalog numbering system the stamp dealers you buy from use. Here in the US, nearly all dealers use only Scott catalog numbers, so it makes sense to use the Scott catalog. In Norway, I would guess that dealers normally the Michel or Stanley Gibbons catalog numbers, except for the other Scandinavian countries, where I would expect them to use Facit.

Then, if there are particular countries that you want more detailed listings, you could get a specialized catalog for them. Examples are the Norgeskatalogen for Norway and the Michel Deutschland-Spezial for Germany.

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05 Jul 2014
07:19:52pm
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See Stamps of Australia.

I've bought lots of books from ABE without any problems at all.

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05 Jul 2014
07:52:56pm
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Hi Mac;

I don't know if you can buy from Amazon, all the way over there in Norway, but they have very good prices on used Scott catalogs. They are mostly from libraries as they replace them with newer ones.

I bought all six volumes (the entire world) for about US $96.00 and that even included shipping. Mostly they were 2-3 year old copies, and were in full color! However shipping to Norway would be rather expensive. Amazon also accepts PayPal.

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06 Jul 2014
07:51:02am
re: Types of catalogues? What to get?

Thanks for the replies Happy

I'll keep an eye out for that Stamps of Australia catalogue, thanks!

"I would second philb's suggestion to see if there is a local stamp club that you can join. They may have catalogs in their library or be willing to discuss them with you in detail."



There are 2 clubs that seem to be close to me, I'll be checking them out. Thanks for the tip!

"I don't know if you can buy from Amazon, all the way over there in Norway, but they have very good prices on used Scott catalogs. They are mostly from libraries as they replace them with newer ones."



Buying from Amazon seems to be possible. I haven't purchased anything from them before, but after a quick google it seems like they ship to Norway. And that they offer free shipping on some items, if I buy for a certain amount.

Feel like I now know what to look for, thanks for all the help Happy

Norway: Norgeskatalogen (own this one already)
Australia: Stamps of Australia
Germany: Michel Deutschland
Denmark: AFA Danmark
Rest of the world: Scott or Stanly Gibbons world wide, or others I might find.


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06 Jul 2014
09:19:37am
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I was checking the eBay market price for complete sets of Scott catalogs, and took a few minutes to produce the following report. Thought it might be useful for those looking for catalog sets. Note that some of the sets are 7 volumes (including US Specialized) and others are 6. These represent actual transactions as reported by eBay, not offers that went unsold. It covers about 2 months from April until July 6, 2014. Most of these were located in the US, a few in Canada (Canadian location seems to go for a bit of a premium) and in most cases do not include shipping, although I noted some "free shipping" offers.

Hope you find it useful.

Roy

1998 Scott Catalogues, set of 6, lightly used / $38.50
2002 Complete Set of 2002 Scott Stamp Catalogs -Used / $15.50
2006 Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue-6 Volume Set / $38.00
2006 Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue-6 Volume Set / $49.09
2006 SCOTT STANDARD POSTAGE STAMPS CATALOGUE 6 VOLUME complete SET EXC. / $39.99
2007 & 1 2010 Scott specialty catalogues in COLOR complete set A-Z / $69.99
2007 Scott 2007 Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue, CD Set, A thru Z. / $40.00
2008 Scott Catalogue, Complete Set of 6 Vols, A-Z , Countries of the World / $89.95
2008 Scott Stamp Catalogues - Complete Set, Vols. 1-6 + Specialized Volume Charity item / $74.99
2009 Scott 2009 Standard Postage Stamp Catalogues A - Z Complete Set of 6 Volumes / $55.00
2009 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $84.97
2009 Scott Stamp Catalogue Catalog Complete Set of 6 Books Volumes! A to Z! Nice / $109.99
2010 6 vol Scott Catalogue / $70.00
2010 6 Volume 2010 Scott worldwide catalogue set / $60.95
2010 Complete Set 2010 Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogues / $100.00
2010 SCOTT 2010 CATALOGUE USED SET 6 VOLUME / $120.00
2010 SCOTT 2010 STAMP CATALOGUE WORLD COMPLETE SET 6 VOLUMES 1-6 in COLOR NICE / $113.00
2010 Scott 2010 Standard Postage Stamp Catalogues A - Z Complete Set of 6 / $100.00
2010 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs, 6 Volumes Set, Full Color / $85.00
2010 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogue complete 7 vols set COLOR A-Z + Specialized / $99.00
2010 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues Complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $115.97
2010 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues Complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $120.97
2011 Complete Set 6 volumes Postage Stamp catalogue World A-Z SCOTT 2011 / $160.00
2011 Nearly New 2011 6 Vol. Scott Stamp Catalogue Set! / $90.51
2011 Scott 2011 Standard Postage Stamp Catalogues A - Z Complete Set of 6 / $79.75
2011 Scott catalogues, vol. 1-6 complete set / $100.00
2011 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs, 7 Volumes Full Set, Very Good, Free Shipping / $169.50
2011 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogue 7 volumes set COMPLETE with specialized ! / $159.99
2011 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $140.97
2011 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $140.97
2011 Scott Stamp Catalogs, Complete Set of 7 volumes(US, A-Z), US Specialized / $123.55
2011 Scott Stamp Catalogues - Complete set, Vols 1-6 + Specialized Charity item / $107.50
2011 Scott Stamp Catalogues - full set of 6, ex-library / $99.00
2012 Scott 2012 Worldwide A-Z, Set of 6 Catalogs / $103.50
2012 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogue complete 7 vols set COLOR A-Z + Specialized / $224.97
2012 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $179.97
2012 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $179.97
2012 SCOTT POSTAGE STAMP COLOR CATALOGUE COMPLETE A-Z & US SPECIALIZED SET USED / $151.00
2012 SCOTT STAMP CATALOGUE SET COMPLETE 6 VOLUMES A-Z / $129.00
2012 SCOTT STAMP CATALOGUE SET COMPLETE 6 VOLUMES A-Z / $160.00
2012 Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue ~ complete 7 volume set / $102.50
2013 SCOTT 2013 STAMP CATALOGUE WORLD COMPLETE SET 6 VOLUMES 1-6 in COLOR NICE / $244.00
2013 Scott Catalog, 6 Volumes, A-Z, 2013 set, lightly used / $151.50
2013 Scott Catalogs Volume 1 through Volume 6 complete set / $188.38
2013 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs Complete 7 Vol. Set A-Z and Specialized / $250.00
2013 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs, 7 Volumes Full Set, Excellent, Free Shipping / $268.50
2013 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs, 7 Volumes Full Set, Excellent, Free Shipping / $289.50
2013 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogue Complete 7 Vol. Set A-Z and Specialized / $355.00
2013 SCOTT STAMP CATALOGUE SET COMPLETE 6 VOLUMES A-Z / $199.00
2013 SCOTT Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue complete set 6 vol COLOR A-Z US1-6 g / $250.97
2014 Scott Catalogue 6 volume complete used set A-Z with U.S & PRC / $360.00
2014 SCOTT Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue complete set 6 vol COLOR A-Z US 1-6 / $529.97
2014 SCOTT Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue complete set 6 vol COLOR A-Z US 1-6 / $399.99

I added a "/" between the description and the price. Those who know how to use a spreadsheet can copy this report and paste it into a spreadsheet and separate the columns on this character.

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06 Jul 2014
09:56:11am
re: Types of catalogues? What to get?

"I was checking the eBay market price for complete sets of Scott catalogs, and took a few minutes to produce the following report."



Wow! Thanks for the list!

Shipping is what might kill the good deals unfortunately, and free shipping usually only include shipping within the country they live in. I did notice some sellers on eBay selling DVD versions of the Scott catalogs, but I'm thinking this might be pirated copies? Saw one seller with 8 copies of them, just seems suspicious.
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06 Jul 2014
10:26:35am
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I found some reasonable deals and have ordered a few catalogues Nerd

I found all the nation specific ones I wanted (Australia, Denmark, Germany) and a good deal on complete Europe catalogue set. The Australia one I got from Amazon, and the rest from a danish online store I have used a couple times before (and offers free shipping). Look forward to them arriving in a week or two! Couldn't help myself from ordering a few accessories either... I Don't Want To See

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06 Jul 2014
08:48:34pm
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try online ...

http://www.stampworld.com/en/maps/europe/

http://colnect.com/en/stamps


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06 Jul 2014
09:09:14pm
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Hi Mac;

I have used computer discs (CDs) for reference work, and always wish they were paper instead. They were not stamp catalogs!

When using stamp catalogs, one has to frequently flip back and forth between not just two, different pages, but maybe four or five to compare different issues to determine which one yours is. This would be a real pain in the u-know-what and one would get very frustrated quickly.

I have also checked prices on FeeBay and found them to be, on average much higher than Amazon. So I purchased from Amazon instead, however they were not all the same years of issue, but I was only concerned with the cheapest price.

Happy stamp collecting
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07 Jul 2014
07:10:25am
re: Types of catalogues? What to get?

Thanks for the tip about the websites! I have visited both previously, but feel more comfortable with traditional catalogue for identifying stamps. I do find them very useful for those times I want to double-check anything, and will probably be using them from time to time.

"I have used computer discs (CDs) for reference work, and always wish they were paper instead. They were not stamp catalogs!"



That's it! When I have used the computer for identifying stamps, it is just not the same as a catalogue. I feel more relaxed when I can flip through the catalogue. And it is nice to get away from the monitor, I'm stuck in front of 2 -3 of them all day at work.
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07 Jul 2014
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I think there are a couple of things to consider when one chooses a catalogue:
1. The level of detail you need
2. Which languages can you read without (too) much difficulties
3. If you intend to use the catalogue(s) as base for exchanges (wantlists etc.), where are your trading partners and what catalogues do they use

For me, my first choice would be Michel. It is the most used over here in the Netherlands plus it contains much more information and is (at least in my opinion) easier to use than Scott, which tends to be highly illogical and inconsequent at times.
On the other hand, I do a lot of exchanges with people in North America (mostly via Stamporama) and for that Scott is inescapable. It is also a bit more practical because one has a complete world catalogue with 6 volumes whereas a complete set of Michel catalogues consists of at least 20 volumes.
If your trading / exchanging is limited to Scandinavia and perhaps Europe, Scott will probably be of little use because it is not very popular in this part of the world.

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07 Jul 2014
10:46:36am
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Good pointers Jan-Simon, thanks!

I've ordered one Michel catalogue, and I think I'll be able to figure out what it says (eventually). I also have a friend who speaks german, so I think I can bug him if I'm stuck Happy

I am not sure where I'll be doing my trading, I imagine that most of my trading will be in Europe and here on StampoRama. But if I can figure out when (date or year) a stamp was printed and provide a picture - is catalogue number really needed?

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07 Jul 2014
08:53:20pm
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Another good resource is Amazon, as they list used editions of mostly Scott catalogs, often discarded copies from public libraries. I just received today a 2010 Scott Vol 2 C-F, for $9 plus $4 shipping. Since I don't collect anything more modern, the four year old edition is perfect for me for reference. If I absolutely need a current Scott value I can get that at the library.

For my Australia and Germany collections I picked up the current Stanley Gibbons and the DNK catalog, which has Michel numbers. One of these days I will get the Michel catalog set.

I always check used book stores but rarely find anything, but I did find a copy of George Amick's book on the Jenny Invert for $10 at the Strand in NYC.

Someone mentioned that buying catalogs and literature as addictive - indeed it is!

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18 Oct 2014
09:46:03am
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For anyone still following this, there are a number of auctions on eBay now for 2013 Scott catalogs. They seem to be mostly retired library versions, and are going for $14-$23 each with free shipping. I just picked up a set of six 2013 catalogs listed as "very good" condition, for $111. They haven't arrived yet, and I will update this post if they are anything other than what is described. Happy hunting!
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24 Oct 2014
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The set of six 2013 Scott Catalogs arrived this week and I am quite pleased with them. They are all ex-library books and range from lightly-used at worst to unused at best. I bought only "Very Good" condition catalogs. If you buy "Good" the price drops even more. And with free shipping, the price you see is the price you pay.

I just checked eBay and as of Oct 24 2014, the seller betterworldbooks still has multiple copies of the 2013 catalogs for sale.

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I tried to find "betterworldbooks" on eBay, without success. Could you please provide us with a link?

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24 Oct 2014
05:46:33pm
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Also try the online site called the book depository . They have a lot of books about stamp catalogues and a lot of other books about collecting.

I've bought a couple of books from them so far. Fast shipping, and NO cost for postage no matter where you live. They are shipped from England.

They have thousands of other books too.

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25 Oct 2014
05:49:58pm
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Let's see if this works:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271603071291?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

And here's a link to all of their listings, of which there appear to be more than 1 million!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/betterworldbooks/m.html?item=271603071291&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

From there I suggest a search to narrow things down... Big Grin

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25 Oct 2014
05:52:22pm
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Note that this was the first time I bought anything from betterworldbooks. I wouldn't hesitate to do so again, but I am certainly not saying they are the only, or even the best deal out there!

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05 Jul 2014
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I have so far only used a Norwegian catalogue for identifying stamps (only sorted norwegian stamps so far too), but considering getting a few catalogues so I can start on the foreign stamps (everything but Norwegian Winking).

I am slightly confused about what type of catalogues to get though. I see some are region based (west-europe, east-europe, etc.). The region based catalogue contains for example Norway. What is the difference on a Norway only catalogue and a region-based catalogue containing Norway? Will the region based one not contain all the Norwegian stamps? Or is it just the amount of details?

I've also seen, for example, a German catalogue and then the same company has a Specialized German catalogue. What is the difference in a "normal" country catalogue and a specialized one?

Catalogues are kinda expensive, so don't want to buy something that I don't really want or need. Any advice on catalogue is appreciated. At the moment I guess I will be collecting world-wide. Would a region-based catalogue be sufficient to identify all stamps?

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05 Jul 2014
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Have you searched for any stamp clubs in your area? Stamp Club people love new collectors and will be more than willing to help you out. When i started out i preferred to spend on stamps more than catalogs...i would buy perhaps one scott catalog a year...usually the one with countries G to I ...or i would purchase a two year old set of 6 Scott catalogs countries A to Z for a price i could afford. I do not know if you are in the United States or Canada...if so i would take advantage of the reference section of your local library..chances are they have books on stamps. Stamp collecting is a complex thing..the deeper i get the deeper i get !Happy

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One more thing...are you certain you want to collect worldwide?...i have spent thousands filling spaces in scott international albums....but i doubt a dealer would offer me much of anything for them...i still buy stamps to fill spaces in them for my own satisfaction...but i also collect specialized countries..where i feel the money is better spent !

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"I do not know if you are in the United States or Canada...if so i would take advantage of the reference section of your local library..chances are they have books on stamps."



I'm in Norway, Europe Happy I'll check out the local library and see what they have. Thanks for the tip!

"One more thing...are you certain you want to collect worldwide?"



Collecting worldwide might not be the right wording, I guess I want to be able to identify worldwide. So far I've only bought kiloware, and in the bags there are stamps from all over the world (it seems). I want to be able to identify them before trading or selling any that I don't want to keep in my collection.
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Well have fun, thats the main thing...if we did not enjoy it we wouldn't be doing it !!!

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Welcome Makazi,
Your philatelic library will grow as you do. Don't be too quick to jump into any particular direction just yet. As for your question about general vs. specialized volumes:
once you're set into a particular direction (say Norway) then you will find that there are many varieties of a particular stamp- that's where the specialized volume comes into play.

This may seem incredible to you right now, but I know of a collector whose total collection is of a single stamp! There are color shades,perforation differences, flat and rotary printings,grills and re-entries that keep this collector fascinated and happy.

There are other collectors whose collections take up entire rooms! Just take Phil's advice-enjoy to the max!!.

Catalogs can be found both new and used-search around and you'll save yourself many bucks. Sometimes great finds can be had in library sales!

Dan C.

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"This may seem incredible to you right now, but I know of a collector whose total collection is of a single stamp! There are color shades,perforation differences, flat and rotary printings,grills and re-entries that keep this collector fascinated and happy."



That's pretty awesome! Just today when sorting and identifying some stamps, I found 3 variations of a stamp - 1 with normal paper, and 2 with different fluorescent paper. They are printed at different years, with same picture and face value.

In addition to checking out the local library, I'll keep an eye out for catalogues on sale. I guess the Norwegian catalogue I have is specialized since it has many details about variations. Until I figure out what else to specialize in, the catalogues I'll be looking for will be covering multiple nations.

Nations that I think I might be interested in is Denmark, Germany and Australia. Danish and German catalogues should be easy to find here, but not sure about Australian catalogue. Any recommendations for an Australian catalogue to keep an eye out for is appreciated Happy
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05 Jul 2014
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A friend in Australia sent me this which should do nicely for you...i do not know what it cost..but you should be able to find a copy..probably used for not too much money on an Amazon.com type site !Image Not Found

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05 Jul 2014
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I would second philb's suggestion to see if there is a local stamp club that you can join. They may have catalogs in their library or be willing to discuss them with you in detail.

There is a list of stamp clubs in Norway at http://filatelist.no/frimerkeklubber-i-norge-5753

One thing to consider when choosing between catalogs is what catalog numbering system the stamp dealers you buy from use. Here in the US, nearly all dealers use only Scott catalog numbers, so it makes sense to use the Scott catalog. In Norway, I would guess that dealers normally the Michel or Stanley Gibbons catalog numbers, except for the other Scandinavian countries, where I would expect them to use Facit.

Then, if there are particular countries that you want more detailed listings, you could get a specialized catalog for them. Examples are the Norgeskatalogen for Norway and the Michel Deutschland-Spezial for Germany.

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05 Jul 2014
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See Stamps of Australia.

I've bought lots of books from ABE without any problems at all.

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05 Jul 2014
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Hi Mac;

I don't know if you can buy from Amazon, all the way over there in Norway, but they have very good prices on used Scott catalogs. They are mostly from libraries as they replace them with newer ones.

I bought all six volumes (the entire world) for about US $96.00 and that even included shipping. Mostly they were 2-3 year old copies, and were in full color! However shipping to Norway would be rather expensive. Amazon also accepts PayPal.

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06 Jul 2014
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Thanks for the replies Happy

I'll keep an eye out for that Stamps of Australia catalogue, thanks!

"I would second philb's suggestion to see if there is a local stamp club that you can join. They may have catalogs in their library or be willing to discuss them with you in detail."



There are 2 clubs that seem to be close to me, I'll be checking them out. Thanks for the tip!

"I don't know if you can buy from Amazon, all the way over there in Norway, but they have very good prices on used Scott catalogs. They are mostly from libraries as they replace them with newer ones."



Buying from Amazon seems to be possible. I haven't purchased anything from them before, but after a quick google it seems like they ship to Norway. And that they offer free shipping on some items, if I buy for a certain amount.

Feel like I now know what to look for, thanks for all the help Happy

Norway: Norgeskatalogen (own this one already)
Australia: Stamps of Australia
Germany: Michel Deutschland
Denmark: AFA Danmark
Rest of the world: Scott or Stanly Gibbons world wide, or others I might find.


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I was checking the eBay market price for complete sets of Scott catalogs, and took a few minutes to produce the following report. Thought it might be useful for those looking for catalog sets. Note that some of the sets are 7 volumes (including US Specialized) and others are 6. These represent actual transactions as reported by eBay, not offers that went unsold. It covers about 2 months from April until July 6, 2014. Most of these were located in the US, a few in Canada (Canadian location seems to go for a bit of a premium) and in most cases do not include shipping, although I noted some "free shipping" offers.

Hope you find it useful.

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1998 Scott Catalogues, set of 6, lightly used / $38.50
2002 Complete Set of 2002 Scott Stamp Catalogs -Used / $15.50
2006 Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue-6 Volume Set / $38.00
2006 Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue-6 Volume Set / $49.09
2006 SCOTT STANDARD POSTAGE STAMPS CATALOGUE 6 VOLUME complete SET EXC. / $39.99
2007 & 1 2010 Scott specialty catalogues in COLOR complete set A-Z / $69.99
2007 Scott 2007 Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue, CD Set, A thru Z. / $40.00
2008 Scott Catalogue, Complete Set of 6 Vols, A-Z , Countries of the World / $89.95
2008 Scott Stamp Catalogues - Complete Set, Vols. 1-6 + Specialized Volume Charity item / $74.99
2009 Scott 2009 Standard Postage Stamp Catalogues A - Z Complete Set of 6 Volumes / $55.00
2009 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $84.97
2009 Scott Stamp Catalogue Catalog Complete Set of 6 Books Volumes! A to Z! Nice / $109.99
2010 6 vol Scott Catalogue / $70.00
2010 6 Volume 2010 Scott worldwide catalogue set / $60.95
2010 Complete Set 2010 Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogues / $100.00
2010 SCOTT 2010 CATALOGUE USED SET 6 VOLUME / $120.00
2010 SCOTT 2010 STAMP CATALOGUE WORLD COMPLETE SET 6 VOLUMES 1-6 in COLOR NICE / $113.00
2010 Scott 2010 Standard Postage Stamp Catalogues A - Z Complete Set of 6 / $100.00
2010 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs, 6 Volumes Set, Full Color / $85.00
2010 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogue complete 7 vols set COLOR A-Z + Specialized / $99.00
2010 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues Complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $115.97
2010 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues Complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $120.97
2011 Complete Set 6 volumes Postage Stamp catalogue World A-Z SCOTT 2011 / $160.00
2011 Nearly New 2011 6 Vol. Scott Stamp Catalogue Set! / $90.51
2011 Scott 2011 Standard Postage Stamp Catalogues A - Z Complete Set of 6 / $79.75
2011 Scott catalogues, vol. 1-6 complete set / $100.00
2011 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs, 7 Volumes Full Set, Very Good, Free Shipping / $169.50
2011 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogue 7 volumes set COMPLETE with specialized ! / $159.99
2011 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $140.97
2011 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $140.97
2011 Scott Stamp Catalogs, Complete Set of 7 volumes(US, A-Z), US Specialized / $123.55
2011 Scott Stamp Catalogues - Complete set, Vols 1-6 + Specialized Charity item / $107.50
2011 Scott Stamp Catalogues - full set of 6, ex-library / $99.00
2012 Scott 2012 Worldwide A-Z, Set of 6 Catalogs / $103.50
2012 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogue complete 7 vols set COLOR A-Z + Specialized / $224.97
2012 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $179.97
2012 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogues complete 6 vols set COLOR A-Z US UN 1-6 / $179.97
2012 SCOTT POSTAGE STAMP COLOR CATALOGUE COMPLETE A-Z & US SPECIALIZED SET USED / $151.00
2012 SCOTT STAMP CATALOGUE SET COMPLETE 6 VOLUMES A-Z / $129.00
2012 SCOTT STAMP CATALOGUE SET COMPLETE 6 VOLUMES A-Z / $160.00
2012 Scott Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue ~ complete 7 volume set / $102.50
2013 SCOTT 2013 STAMP CATALOGUE WORLD COMPLETE SET 6 VOLUMES 1-6 in COLOR NICE / $244.00
2013 Scott Catalog, 6 Volumes, A-Z, 2013 set, lightly used / $151.50
2013 Scott Catalogs Volume 1 through Volume 6 complete set / $188.38
2013 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs Complete 7 Vol. Set A-Z and Specialized / $250.00
2013 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs, 7 Volumes Full Set, Excellent, Free Shipping / $268.50
2013 Scott Postage Stamp Catalogs, 7 Volumes Full Set, Excellent, Free Shipping / $289.50
2013 SCOTT Postage Stamp Catalogue Complete 7 Vol. Set A-Z and Specialized / $355.00
2013 SCOTT STAMP CATALOGUE SET COMPLETE 6 VOLUMES A-Z / $199.00
2013 SCOTT Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue complete set 6 vol COLOR A-Z US1-6 g / $250.97
2014 Scott Catalogue 6 volume complete used set A-Z with U.S & PRC / $360.00
2014 SCOTT Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue complete set 6 vol COLOR A-Z US 1-6 / $529.97
2014 SCOTT Standard Postage Stamp Catalogue complete set 6 vol COLOR A-Z US 1-6 / $399.99

I added a "/" between the description and the price. Those who know how to use a spreadsheet can copy this report and paste it into a spreadsheet and separate the columns on this character.

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06 Jul 2014
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"I was checking the eBay market price for complete sets of Scott catalogs, and took a few minutes to produce the following report."



Wow! Thanks for the list!

Shipping is what might kill the good deals unfortunately, and free shipping usually only include shipping within the country they live in. I did notice some sellers on eBay selling DVD versions of the Scott catalogs, but I'm thinking this might be pirated copies? Saw one seller with 8 copies of them, just seems suspicious.
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06 Jul 2014
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I found some reasonable deals and have ordered a few catalogues Nerd

I found all the nation specific ones I wanted (Australia, Denmark, Germany) and a good deal on complete Europe catalogue set. The Australia one I got from Amazon, and the rest from a danish online store I have used a couple times before (and offers free shipping). Look forward to them arriving in a week or two! Couldn't help myself from ordering a few accessories either... I Don't Want To See

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06 Jul 2014
08:48:34pm

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try online ...

http://www.stampworld.com/en/maps/europe/

http://colnect.com/en/stamps


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06 Jul 2014
09:09:14pm

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Hi Mac;

I have used computer discs (CDs) for reference work, and always wish they were paper instead. They were not stamp catalogs!

When using stamp catalogs, one has to frequently flip back and forth between not just two, different pages, but maybe four or five to compare different issues to determine which one yours is. This would be a real pain in the u-know-what and one would get very frustrated quickly.

I have also checked prices on FeeBay and found them to be, on average much higher than Amazon. So I purchased from Amazon instead, however they were not all the same years of issue, but I was only concerned with the cheapest price.

Happy stamp collecting
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07 Jul 2014
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Thanks for the tip about the websites! I have visited both previously, but feel more comfortable with traditional catalogue for identifying stamps. I do find them very useful for those times I want to double-check anything, and will probably be using them from time to time.

"I have used computer discs (CDs) for reference work, and always wish they were paper instead. They were not stamp catalogs!"



That's it! When I have used the computer for identifying stamps, it is just not the same as a catalogue. I feel more relaxed when I can flip through the catalogue. And it is nice to get away from the monitor, I'm stuck in front of 2 -3 of them all day at work.
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I think there are a couple of things to consider when one chooses a catalogue:
1. The level of detail you need
2. Which languages can you read without (too) much difficulties
3. If you intend to use the catalogue(s) as base for exchanges (wantlists etc.), where are your trading partners and what catalogues do they use

For me, my first choice would be Michel. It is the most used over here in the Netherlands plus it contains much more information and is (at least in my opinion) easier to use than Scott, which tends to be highly illogical and inconsequent at times.
On the other hand, I do a lot of exchanges with people in North America (mostly via Stamporama) and for that Scott is inescapable. It is also a bit more practical because one has a complete world catalogue with 6 volumes whereas a complete set of Michel catalogues consists of at least 20 volumes.
If your trading / exchanging is limited to Scandinavia and perhaps Europe, Scott will probably be of little use because it is not very popular in this part of the world.

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07 Jul 2014
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Good pointers Jan-Simon, thanks!

I've ordered one Michel catalogue, and I think I'll be able to figure out what it says (eventually). I also have a friend who speaks german, so I think I can bug him if I'm stuck Happy

I am not sure where I'll be doing my trading, I imagine that most of my trading will be in Europe and here on StampoRama. But if I can figure out when (date or year) a stamp was printed and provide a picture - is catalogue number really needed?

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07 Jul 2014
08:53:20pm

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Another good resource is Amazon, as they list used editions of mostly Scott catalogs, often discarded copies from public libraries. I just received today a 2010 Scott Vol 2 C-F, for $9 plus $4 shipping. Since I don't collect anything more modern, the four year old edition is perfect for me for reference. If I absolutely need a current Scott value I can get that at the library.

For my Australia and Germany collections I picked up the current Stanley Gibbons and the DNK catalog, which has Michel numbers. One of these days I will get the Michel catalog set.

I always check used book stores but rarely find anything, but I did find a copy of George Amick's book on the Jenny Invert for $10 at the Strand in NYC.

Someone mentioned that buying catalogs and literature as addictive - indeed it is!

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18 Oct 2014
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For anyone still following this, there are a number of auctions on eBay now for 2013 Scott catalogs. They seem to be mostly retired library versions, and are going for $14-$23 each with free shipping. I just picked up a set of six 2013 catalogs listed as "very good" condition, for $111. They haven't arrived yet, and I will update this post if they are anything other than what is described. Happy hunting!
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24 Oct 2014
01:06:26pm

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The set of six 2013 Scott Catalogs arrived this week and I am quite pleased with them. They are all ex-library books and range from lightly-used at worst to unused at best. I bought only "Very Good" condition catalogs. If you buy "Good" the price drops even more. And with free shipping, the price you see is the price you pay.

I just checked eBay and as of Oct 24 2014, the seller betterworldbooks still has multiple copies of the 2013 catalogs for sale.

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24 Oct 2014
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I tried to find "betterworldbooks" on eBay, without success. Could you please provide us with a link?

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24 Oct 2014
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Also try the online site called the book depository . They have a lot of books about stamp catalogues and a lot of other books about collecting.

I've bought a couple of books from them so far. Fast shipping, and NO cost for postage no matter where you live. They are shipped from England.

They have thousands of other books too.

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25 Oct 2014
05:49:58pm

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Let's see if this works:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271603071291?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

And here's a link to all of their listings, of which there appear to be more than 1 million!

http://www.ebay.com/sch/betterworldbooks/m.html?item=271603071291&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

From there I suggest a search to narrow things down... Big Grin

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25 Oct 2014
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Note that this was the first time I bought anything from betterworldbooks. I wouldn't hesitate to do so again, but I am certainly not saying they are the only, or even the best deal out there!

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