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http://phrugalfilatelist.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/survey-your-top-10-countries-to-collect/
Tedski
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I took the survey Ted. I look forward to seeing your results.
Regards ... Tim.
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Ditto
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Stamp Collectors:
Is it possible to have ten favourites?
I have one favourite, the others are less so; and I have a world-wide collection.
Maybe it's something like a harem and you need a check-list or you crash at the end of the runway.
John Derry
P.S. I took the survey and posted my favourite.
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This was actually an interesting exercise. I hadn't really thought about what I like to collect before. I easily identified my favorite first six countries, but I had to think about the last four.
Tim
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Me too
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10:09:23pm
It will be interesting to see the results. Is there anyway to see which other members share the same top countries as you do? Some kind of compiled list? Some of mine are guesses as I only have small groups of stamps from certain countries right now. I determined favorites because Italy, Poland and Irish are where my great-grandparents were born. Scotland and the UK are where my husband's family is from and my other 5 are countries that I have found appealing for one reason or another.
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I also collect the world, and I think that the term "favorite" is somewhat subjective and preferential. Right now I have some favorites, because I am working on those countries more so than others, so they are at the top of my mind. In a year or so, the list might change as I move on to other countries. However, there is a core group of countries (call it my top 5) that I really like the stamps of, so those would probably remain in the top 5.
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11:18:45pm
I had a hard time whittling it down to 10.
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Yes, I also had a hard time only naming ten of my favorites, but I think the survey was to imply as to what your favorites are now, not 10 or 20 years ago. I listed ten but they are not necessarily in any real order of favoritism to me. My favorite is usually the one that I am updating or working on at any certain time and could be one of about 25 countries.
The results are actually already listed, right below Ted's picture is the link.
Thanks for that posting Ted.
Mike
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Mine tend to hsve emerged from opportunity. I was given a Germany Specialty album years ago and put together a much nicer collection than I would have working out of my worldwide album. Same for US, Canada and Denmark.
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I didn't respond to the survey because I don't collect countries as such. My main interests are the various aspects of the Second World War (the Battle of the Atlantic, RAF & RCAF Bomber Command, and the wartime economy of Great Britain), the Vietnam War, and the "mid-period" of commercial aviation development, ca. 1930-1960. My collections contain stamps and covers from many countries.
In the past, I have enjoyed some country collections — the U.S. because I am an American, Canada because I am also a Canadian, Scandinavia because I find the area interesting and like most Scandinavian stamps, and Ireland because I discovered a gorgeous engraved Eire stamp in a nickel box! Eventually I found the idea of completing any of those collections both intimidating and expensive, and then a dealer introduced me to postal history. Today I buy far more covers (and picture postcards) than stamps. I still have my U.S. album, but I rarely add anything to it.
I've noticed that many members of my stamp club (the BC Philatelic Society) largely collect according to their roots, or family connections. A specialist in Portugal and the Azores is married to a Portuguese woman from Azores. A friend of mine collects Germany, and not surprisingly has a German wife. A Dane collects...Denmark! A collector of South Africa has continued to work on the collection his father started as a boy in South Africa. Our Chinese-Canadian newsletter editor collects China! All members, as a result of this cosmopolitan membership, learn a lot of worldwide philately!
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I've gotten 68 responses to the survey. Here are the results shown 2 ways: 1st, simply by the number of times a country was mentioned on anyone's list, and second, by the number of points the country got, giving 10 points for each "Favorite" mention, 9 points for each 2nd favorite, 8 points for each 3rd, on down to 1 point for a 10th place mention. The darker orange squares indicate countries that appeared on one list and not the other.
This second chart shows all the countries mentioned as the #1 favorite, along with the number of times it was mentioned.
Tedski
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Not surprised. The top 5 are usually the most offered for sale at auctions, ebay, etc.
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I tried to get a good international response, by posting the survey to several international stamp collecting groups on Facebook and Twitter. I even posted the announcements in several languages, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, and French (I didn't come across an explicitly German group).
Survey Monkey (the site that hosted the survey) does not provide stats showing which country a respondent was from (unless there is a clue in the IP address, which they do give), but my Flag Counter stats show visits to my blog from 22 countries outside the US since I posted the survey.
15 from Canada
7 from the UK
2 from Australia
3 from Germany
4 from the Netherlands
2 each from Israel and Mexico
1 each from Algeria, Argentina, Brazil, Cyprus, Egypt, Greece, Indonesia, Japan, New Zealand,, Peru, Philippines, Slovakia, Ukraine, and Venezuela.
This coming weekend (Thursday and Friday, for me) I will create a new survey for Topicals. Watch for it.
Tedski
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"parkinlot: I had a hard time whittling it down to 10."
I hear ya. I can't even recall which 10 I put down, now. If I did the survey again, half the countries would probably be different from my first list.
Tedski
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I would not be surprised if there were more collectors per capita in other places besides the U.S. I find lots of collectors from Great Britain, India and the Middle East!
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The top ten that I listed are all within the top eleven in the weighted list, Russia being th only nation I am not that into. Yes, I have them in the Worldwide album and grab any that com my way, but I never seek either Russia or Poland out.
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One of the questions the survey results raised in my mind was why a collector chooses to focus (specialize?) on one or at least a restricted number of countries. I'm sure many do both WW and a narrower focus, but what determines which countries they select? One obvious answer is "I collect the country of my birth (and/or residence and/or family heritage)," but surely there must be other reasons. So, my question is... why do you collect one or more specific countries... or, perhaps one could also ask, why don't you collect country X or country Y?
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I see Down Under's in the top 5! Unfortunately poor old Greece doesn't seem to make it...
Japan is also up there, but my main problem with Japan is that I don't have a source of Japanese stamps apart from buying them individually on the www. Can people who voted for Japan give me any tips?
As some have noted, though, this survey is quite biased. It was written in English, and advertised in English and probably not very widely, so it's not going to get an even worldwide representation. Nevertheless, it does show that English-speaking collectors predominantly collect stamps from English-speaking countries, probably because that's the material available to them. It also shows that there is considerable interest in other countries.
As far as Oliver's question, I think that there are three main factors that determine what stamps one collects, whether a country, theme, etc.
(1) Availability plays a part, which is why many people collect their own country's stamps. One reason I collect worldwide definitives because they tend to be the easiest available.
(2) As some people have mentioned, association with a country or topic also motivates people, e.g., I am from a Greek background, which motivates me to collect Greece.
(3) Personal taste and ideology. E.g., another reason I collect worldwide definitives is that they are real stamps, created for postal use, not merely pretty pictures artificially created for sucking money out of collectors. Having said that, I'm a sucker for those Romanian paintings...
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Being a world wide collector myself, I agree with the 3 points.
I also think that preferences vary from time-to-time as one works on the collection. A recent review of my Nepal collection showed it to be lacking. Over the past couple of months I have focused on Nepal, and it looks very nice now. If I were to redo the poll, I would probably add Nepal to it now as I am focused on that country. There will always be the "more favorite" countries based on association: US, because I live here and it is easy to get the stamps; Germany because I was born there; Italy, because of my father's side of the family, and I visited there; Canada, Mexico, San Marino, Switzerland and others - been there; Thailand - I like the modern stamps; etc. Many of these countries are in the high percentages of being complete, so I do not obtain many items from there except for new issues. Not working on them regularly puts them in the back of the mind and so they may not appear on my current top ten list. Out of sight, out of mind, so to speak.
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I recognise a lot about those changing preferences. If you would have asked me five or ten years ago, my list would have been very different from what it is now. Countries like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Australia and New Zealand were my favourites back then, but like Michael says, these countries have reached the stage where not much can be added unless you start to invest heavily, so I started to focus on other countries, just because I like the "sport" of collecting too much. So now my focus is on Brazil, Argentina, Egypt, Nepal, Chile, Uruguay, Peru and the Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania). The reasons why these countries are varied: I started Egypt when I had a relation with an egyptologist. The relation did not work out in the end, but the interest in Egyptian stamps remained
Most of the South American countries I started partly out of a sort of snob appeal: I knew there were no (or just a few) collectors in the stamp club collecting them. On the one hand that makes it harder, but on the other hand one can get good stamps easily because no one else is interested And it is more of a challenge to collect these countries than for instance Germany, Italy or France... Apart from that, classic Brazil and Argentina is a very interesting collecting area.
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I'm surprised Hungary is so low on the list... I mean honestly, I can't think of a country that to me has more "art" in their stamps than any other country, even their older issues. I t wasn't my number one, but thinking back, I'm thinking it probably should have been.. because I've never seen a Hungarian stamp that I've not liked (except when they're HEAVILY cancelled).
Although I guess that would be a total different question in terms of a survey.. "Most Attractive stamps" or something like that.. i'd think the list would be VASTLY different.
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Oh...Oh...oh...
and how about this lovely item (just screams "Art Deco period" to me):
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Mark Stone:
Hungary stamps are things of beauty and joys forever.
John Derry
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I did the survey too and none of my top7 countries are on the top25 list :-)
I guess my area of collectin isn´t very popular here :-)
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Peter,
That is the greatest joy in stamp collecting, collecting what you want and how you want to collect it. That is a descision only you can make for yourself. Welcome to SOR
Mike
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exactly Roy... anyone else tries to make a stamp like that plane/city scene, I honestly don't think it would work... (i could just see them tweaking it in some way that detracts) but when it comes from a Hungary stamp, it's as close to perfection as I think possible.
I made a comment with someone over the Castle-I series that Hungary had... His response was "Everyone has their own tastes"... I just wanted to stick my tongue out at him like i was a 7 year old boy.
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I agree Hungary has always produced beautiful stamps. Even with the large number of commemoratives they have generated over the past 60 years, Eastern European nations produced very attractive and affordable material, and you can build a nice collection, even if you have a lot of CTOs. I have purchased large packets of Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria and Russia for very modest prices, and the enjoyment for the money spent is hard to beat!
When I sort world wide lots and mixtures, most countries get sorted in letter size envelopes. Each Eastern European country go into its own 1 gallon size zip-lock bag. Quantity is welcome here. Whatever I don't need I can sell, trade or donate.
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Sure Mike, the good thing about collecting an area not many others collect, is that when I find material I´m normally the only one who wants it
And I love to sail away in my icy collection 
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Truly a beautiful souvenir sheet.
I swiped your scan for my collection of stamps on-line file.
I just have to find a couple of used examples.
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It´s a booklet pane from Greenlandic a booklet issued in 2002. It contains 2 booklet panes, here´s the other:
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I invite everyone to take my survey of the Top-10 Countries collected by stamp collectors.
You can also check out the rest of my blog.
Thank you.
http://phrugalfilatelist.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/survey-your-top-10-countries-to-collect/
Tedski
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I took the survey Ted. I look forward to seeing your results.
Regards ... Tim.
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The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.
23 Mar 2012
07:16:51pm
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Stamp Collectors:
Is it possible to have ten favourites?
I have one favourite, the others are less so; and I have a world-wide collection.
Maybe it's something like a harem and you need a check-list or you crash at the end of the runway.
John Derry
P.S. I took the survey and posted my favourite.
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This was actually an interesting exercise. I hadn't really thought about what I like to collect before. I easily identified my favorite first six countries, but I had to think about the last four.
Tim
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23 Mar 2012
10:09:23pm
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It will be interesting to see the results. Is there anyway to see which other members share the same top countries as you do? Some kind of compiled list? Some of mine are guesses as I only have small groups of stamps from certain countries right now. I determined favorites because Italy, Poland and Irish are where my great-grandparents were born. Scotland and the UK are where my husband's family is from and my other 5 are countries that I have found appealing for one reason or another.
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10:40:56pm
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I also collect the world, and I think that the term "favorite" is somewhat subjective and preferential. Right now I have some favorites, because I am working on those countries more so than others, so they are at the top of my mind. In a year or so, the list might change as I move on to other countries. However, there is a core group of countries (call it my top 5) that I really like the stamps of, so those would probably remain in the top 5.
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23 Mar 2012
11:18:45pm
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I had a hard time whittling it down to 10.
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Yes, I also had a hard time only naming ten of my favorites, but I think the survey was to imply as to what your favorites are now, not 10 or 20 years ago. I listed ten but they are not necessarily in any real order of favoritism to me. My favorite is usually the one that I am updating or working on at any certain time and could be one of about 25 countries.
The results are actually already listed, right below Ted's picture is the link.
Thanks for that posting Ted.
Mike
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10:27:51pm
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Mine tend to hsve emerged from opportunity. I was given a Germany Specialty album years ago and put together a much nicer collection than I would have working out of my worldwide album. Same for US, Canada and Denmark.
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I didn't respond to the survey because I don't collect countries as such. My main interests are the various aspects of the Second World War (the Battle of the Atlantic, RAF & RCAF Bomber Command, and the wartime economy of Great Britain), the Vietnam War, and the "mid-period" of commercial aviation development, ca. 1930-1960. My collections contain stamps and covers from many countries.
In the past, I have enjoyed some country collections — the U.S. because I am an American, Canada because I am also a Canadian, Scandinavia because I find the area interesting and like most Scandinavian stamps, and Ireland because I discovered a gorgeous engraved Eire stamp in a nickel box! Eventually I found the idea of completing any of those collections both intimidating and expensive, and then a dealer introduced me to postal history. Today I buy far more covers (and picture postcards) than stamps. I still have my U.S. album, but I rarely add anything to it.
I've noticed that many members of my stamp club (the BC Philatelic Society) largely collect according to their roots, or family connections. A specialist in Portugal and the Azores is married to a Portuguese woman from Azores. A friend of mine collects Germany, and not surprisingly has a German wife. A Dane collects...Denmark! A collector of South Africa has continued to work on the collection his father started as a boy in South Africa. Our Chinese-Canadian newsletter editor collects China! All members, as a result of this cosmopolitan membership, learn a lot of worldwide philately!
Bob
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I've gotten 68 responses to the survey. Here are the results shown 2 ways: 1st, simply by the number of times a country was mentioned on anyone's list, and second, by the number of points the country got, giving 10 points for each "Favorite" mention, 9 points for each 2nd favorite, 8 points for each 3rd, on down to 1 point for a 10th place mention. The darker orange squares indicate countries that appeared on one list and not the other.
This second chart shows all the countries mentioned as the #1 favorite, along with the number of times it was mentioned.
Tedski
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Not surprised. The top 5 are usually the most offered for sale at auctions, ebay, etc.
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I tried to get a good international response, by posting the survey to several international stamp collecting groups on Facebook and Twitter. I even posted the announcements in several languages, Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, and French (I didn't come across an explicitly German group).
Survey Monkey (the site that hosted the survey) does not provide stats showing which country a respondent was from (unless there is a clue in the IP address, which they do give), but my Flag Counter stats show visits to my blog from 22 countries outside the US since I posted the survey.
15 from Canada
7 from the UK
2 from Australia
3 from Germany
4 from the Netherlands
2 each from Israel and Mexico
1 each from Algeria, Argentina, Brazil, Cyprus, Egypt, Greece, Indonesia, Japan, New Zealand,, Peru, Philippines, Slovakia, Ukraine, and Venezuela.
This coming weekend (Thursday and Friday, for me) I will create a new survey for Topicals. Watch for it.
Tedski
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"parkinlot: I had a hard time whittling it down to 10."
I hear ya. I can't even recall which 10 I put down, now. If I did the survey again, half the countries would probably be different from my first list.
Tedski
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I would not be surprised if there were more collectors per capita in other places besides the U.S. I find lots of collectors from Great Britain, India and the Middle East!
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01 Apr 2012
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The top ten that I listed are all within the top eleven in the weighted list, Russia being th only nation I am not that into. Yes, I have them in the Worldwide album and grab any that com my way, but I never seek either Russia or Poland out.
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One of the questions the survey results raised in my mind was why a collector chooses to focus (specialize?) on one or at least a restricted number of countries. I'm sure many do both WW and a narrower focus, but what determines which countries they select? One obvious answer is "I collect the country of my birth (and/or residence and/or family heritage)," but surely there must be other reasons. So, my question is... why do you collect one or more specific countries... or, perhaps one could also ask, why don't you collect country X or country Y?
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I see Down Under's in the top 5! Unfortunately poor old Greece doesn't seem to make it...
Japan is also up there, but my main problem with Japan is that I don't have a source of Japanese stamps apart from buying them individually on the www. Can people who voted for Japan give me any tips?
As some have noted, though, this survey is quite biased. It was written in English, and advertised in English and probably not very widely, so it's not going to get an even worldwide representation. Nevertheless, it does show that English-speaking collectors predominantly collect stamps from English-speaking countries, probably because that's the material available to them. It also shows that there is considerable interest in other countries.
As far as Oliver's question, I think that there are three main factors that determine what stamps one collects, whether a country, theme, etc.
(1) Availability plays a part, which is why many people collect their own country's stamps. One reason I collect worldwide definitives because they tend to be the easiest available.
(2) As some people have mentioned, association with a country or topic also motivates people, e.g., I am from a Greek background, which motivates me to collect Greece.
(3) Personal taste and ideology. E.g., another reason I collect worldwide definitives is that they are real stamps, created for postal use, not merely pretty pictures artificially created for sucking money out of collectors. Having said that, I'm a sucker for those Romanian paintings...
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Being a world wide collector myself, I agree with the 3 points.
I also think that preferences vary from time-to-time as one works on the collection. A recent review of my Nepal collection showed it to be lacking. Over the past couple of months I have focused on Nepal, and it looks very nice now. If I were to redo the poll, I would probably add Nepal to it now as I am focused on that country. There will always be the "more favorite" countries based on association: US, because I live here and it is easy to get the stamps; Germany because I was born there; Italy, because of my father's side of the family, and I visited there; Canada, Mexico, San Marino, Switzerland and others - been there; Thailand - I like the modern stamps; etc. Many of these countries are in the high percentages of being complete, so I do not obtain many items from there except for new issues. Not working on them regularly puts them in the back of the mind and so they may not appear on my current top ten list. Out of sight, out of mind, so to speak.
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I recognise a lot about those changing preferences. If you would have asked me five or ten years ago, my list would have been very different from what it is now. Countries like Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Australia and New Zealand were my favourites back then, but like Michael says, these countries have reached the stage where not much can be added unless you start to invest heavily, so I started to focus on other countries, just because I like the "sport" of collecting too much. So now my focus is on Brazil, Argentina, Egypt, Nepal, Chile, Uruguay, Peru and the Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania). The reasons why these countries are varied: I started Egypt when I had a relation with an egyptologist. The relation did not work out in the end, but the interest in Egyptian stamps remained
Most of the South American countries I started partly out of a sort of snob appeal: I knew there were no (or just a few) collectors in the stamp club collecting them. On the one hand that makes it harder, but on the other hand one can get good stamps easily because no one else is interested And it is more of a challenge to collect these countries than for instance Germany, Italy or France... Apart from that, classic Brazil and Argentina is a very interesting collecting area.
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I'm surprised Hungary is so low on the list... I mean honestly, I can't think of a country that to me has more "art" in their stamps than any other country, even their older issues. I t wasn't my number one, but thinking back, I'm thinking it probably should have been.. because I've never seen a Hungarian stamp that I've not liked (except when they're HEAVILY cancelled).
Although I guess that would be a total different question in terms of a survey.. "Most Attractive stamps" or something like that.. i'd think the list would be VASTLY different.
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12 Apr 2012
11:53:54am
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@DaSaintFan
One of my greatest joys is sharing things that people appreciate. I hope you will enjoy seeing this cover:
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BuckaCover.com - 80,000 covers priced 60c to $1.50 - Easy browsing 500 categories
12 Apr 2012
11:56:10am
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Oh...Oh...oh...
and how about this lovely item (just screams "Art Deco period" to me):
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The past is a foreign country, they do things different there.
12 Apr 2012
12:37:25pm
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Mark Stone:
Hungary stamps are things of beauty and joys forever.
John Derry
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I did the survey too and none of my top7 countries are on the top25 list :-)
I guess my area of collectin isn´t very popular here :-)
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Peter,
That is the greatest joy in stamp collecting, collecting what you want and how you want to collect it. That is a descision only you can make for yourself. Welcome to SOR
Mike
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exactly Roy... anyone else tries to make a stamp like that plane/city scene, I honestly don't think it would work... (i could just see them tweaking it in some way that detracts) but when it comes from a Hungary stamp, it's as close to perfection as I think possible.
I made a comment with someone over the Castle-I series that Hungary had... His response was "Everyone has their own tastes"... I just wanted to stick my tongue out at him like i was a 7 year old boy.
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I agree Hungary has always produced beautiful stamps. Even with the large number of commemoratives they have generated over the past 60 years, Eastern European nations produced very attractive and affordable material, and you can build a nice collection, even if you have a lot of CTOs. I have purchased large packets of Czechoslovakia, Romania, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria and Russia for very modest prices, and the enjoyment for the money spent is hard to beat!
When I sort world wide lots and mixtures, most countries get sorted in letter size envelopes. Each Eastern European country go into its own 1 gallon size zip-lock bag. Quantity is welcome here. Whatever I don't need I can sell, trade or donate.
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Sure Mike, the good thing about collecting an area not many others collect, is that when I find material I´m normally the only one who wants it
And I love to sail away in my icy collection
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15 Apr 2012
08:31:47pm
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Truly a beautiful souvenir sheet.
I swiped your scan for my collection of stamps on-line file.
I just have to find a couple of used examples.
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It´s a booklet pane from Greenlandic a booklet issued in 2002. It contains 2 booklet panes, here´s the other:
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