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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

 

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bigcreekdad
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05 Dec 2025
04:06:53pm
....I know, I know...this is likely a dead horse. However, there are times when using fluid and a black dish just doesn't disclose a watermark. In some cases, it can't be made out because of a bunch of penciling from some idiot on the rear.

I recently acquired a nice small collection of early Antigua. After many hours I still have a few unidentified stamps. I've been using Clarity, but it isn't perfect and is damn costly. I might spend more money (maybe) if there was a device that detected pretty much all watermarks without using fluid.

Any thoughts from the group?
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rwillis29
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05 Dec 2025
05:36:00pm

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re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

I still use lighter fluid for bulk cheaper stamps. and I use Clarity if it may be a better one about the same results. I have used a few water mark lights I don't think they are as good. Good light or Sun light is the best and water mark or lighter fluid.
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05 Dec 2025
05:39:28pm

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re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

And some times you can use a scanner with Water Mark fluid. you can blow it up

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05 Dec 2025
06:09:13pm
re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

Carbon tetrachloride used to be the gold standard - dried quickly and helped on those yellows. It worked great on slot car tires as well. It was banned from commercial use back in 1970 and is not available to the general public, not even sure if dry cleaners can still use it.

I have a Sign o Scope and results are mixed. Frankly, as rwillis29 suggested it is easier to take a scan of the back of the stamp (with or without fluid) and play with brightness, contrast and color hue and saturation.

Hope this helps

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Al
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06 Dec 2025
06:04:25am
re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

I have Clarity fluid, Supersafe fluid, and a Sherlock watermark detector. The Supersafe has a nasty smell that lingers a long time so rarely use it. The Sherlock works best with stamps that have hinge remnants. It really is not worth the value but it does give you unlimited time to study. I have tried the wet scanner approach but my challenge is just the lack of experience.

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06 Dec 2025
07:49:57pm

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re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

T3 Signoscope!

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07 Dec 2025
10:48:15am
re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

T3 signoscope watermark detector looks like a very interesting device with a %7E$300 price tag.

Here is a discussion of the T3 vs Epson V600 scanner. It is a lengthy discussion so scroll down thru the discussion.

https://thestampforum.boards.net/thread/ ...

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bigcreekdad

05 Dec 2025
04:06:53pm

....I know, I know...this is likely a dead horse. However, there are times when using fluid and a black dish just doesn't disclose a watermark. In some cases, it can't be made out because of a bunch of penciling from some idiot on the rear.

I recently acquired a nice small collection of early Antigua. After many hours I still have a few unidentified stamps. I've been using Clarity, but it isn't perfect and is damn costly. I might spend more money (maybe) if there was a device that detected pretty much all watermarks without using fluid.

Any thoughts from the group?

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rwillis29

05 Dec 2025
05:36:00pm

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re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

I still use lighter fluid for bulk cheaper stamps. and I use Clarity if it may be a better one about the same results. I have used a few water mark lights I don't think they are as good. Good light or Sun light is the best and water mark or lighter fluid.
Richard

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rwillis29

05 Dec 2025
05:39:28pm

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re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

And some times you can use a scanner with Water Mark fluid. you can blow it up

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In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

05 Dec 2025
06:09:13pm

re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

Carbon tetrachloride used to be the gold standard - dried quickly and helped on those yellows. It worked great on slot car tires as well. It was banned from commercial use back in 1970 and is not available to the general public, not even sure if dry cleaners can still use it.

I have a Sign o Scope and results are mixed. Frankly, as rwillis29 suggested it is easier to take a scan of the back of the stamp (with or without fluid) and play with brightness, contrast and color hue and saturation.

Hope this helps

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Al
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06 Dec 2025
06:04:25am

re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

I have Clarity fluid, Supersafe fluid, and a Sherlock watermark detector. The Supersafe has a nasty smell that lingers a long time so rarely use it. The Sherlock works best with stamps that have hinge remnants. It really is not worth the value but it does give you unlimited time to study. I have tried the wet scanner approach but my challenge is just the lack of experience.

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PhilatelistMag20

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06 Dec 2025
07:49:57pm

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re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

T3 Signoscope!

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07 Dec 2025
10:48:15am

re: ID'ing watermarks....what do you use?

T3 signoscope watermark detector looks like a very interesting device with a %7E$300 price tag.

Here is a discussion of the T3 vs Epson V600 scanner. It is a lengthy discussion so scroll down thru the discussion.

https://thestampforum.boards.net/thread/ ...

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