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General Philatelic/Identify This? : France and Sweden - Need help

 

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Dakota
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18 Nov 2025
08:45:35pm
I have these two French items and one from Sweden. Can someone help me identify these items. Thanks in advance.Image Not Found

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18 Nov 2025
09:17:28pm

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Cannot find the Scott# for sweden but here is the same item!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296924059419

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19 Nov 2025
02:30:53am

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I found a few of those Swedish overprints not too long ago.

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I had no idea what they were at first. It turns out that they are private overprints, mostly by stamp clubs to draw attention to exhibitions they organized. The one in the middle was the strangest at first, because the abbreviation CGT made no sense. On another discussion forum I read it meant Curry Gabriel Treffenberg, which should be a stamp club. My first reaction upon reading this was that it must be the silliest name for a stamp club ever, until a few hours ago, when another discovery made that I could connect the dots...

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Here are four stamps from the same lot, issued for "stamp day" in 1944 and they show a person who is obviously going by the name C.G. Treffenberg. Now I was intrigued, what had this guy to do with stamps?

Fortunately Wikipedia knows. Well, only the Swedish Wikipedia page, but I can read most of it and what I do not understand, Google Translate does.
It turns out Curry Gabriel Treffenberg (with Curry being the family name that was later "enhanced" by adding Treffenberg. No idea why his first name is always mentioned second) was a Swedish officer and civil servant, who had a brilliant idea in 1823: what if the Swedish state would introduce pieces of "stamped" paper that could be used to pay for sending letters? He presented the idea to the Riksdagen, the Swedish parliament on the 3rd of March (the date also mentioned on the stamp), that rejected it. Treffenberg returned to his job and after some financial troubles emigrated to Denmark. In 1840 a guy called Hill introduced stamps in Great Britain and 15 years later Sweden followed. At that point some people remembered the vision Treffenberg had, and suggested that he should receive a medal for it. This never happened, nor did he ever receive any recognition for thinking of a way to prepay mail delivery 17 years before the "real" invention. In 1874, as an old man, he returned to Sweden where he died a year later, age 84.
Somehow Treffenberg was still remembered by Swedish philatelists and in 1944, on 3 March, 121 years after the proposal, the first Swedish stamp day was organized and the seals I showed were issued.

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19 Nov 2025
05:37:24am
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Great story Jansimon!

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19 Nov 2025
07:32:26am
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The first one is an official label used on early airmail that " must be affixed by the postal workers on the folds to be transported by air" according to Colnect. Yvert EPA1. It was issued in 1920 and is listed as "Precurseur Guynemer" in my 2022-2023 Spink/Maury with a value of 20 unused.

The middle one is a precancel, listed in Spink as number 29 with a value of 725 unused.

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"'That's just it,' said the Hemulen in despair. 'It's finished. There isn't a stamp, or an error that I haven't collected. Not one. What shall I do now? ''Nature study!' declares the Hemulen. 'I shall botanize'. "
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19 Nov 2025
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Very cool!

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19 Nov 2025
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Thanks to everyone for their assistance.

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I have these two French items and one from Sweden. Can someone help me identify these items. Thanks in advance.Image Not Found

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18 Nov 2025
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Cannot find the Scott# for sweden but here is the same item!
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296924059419

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re: France and Sweden - Need help

I found a few of those Swedish overprints not too long ago.

Image Not Found

I had no idea what they were at first. It turns out that they are private overprints, mostly by stamp clubs to draw attention to exhibitions they organized. The one in the middle was the strangest at first, because the abbreviation CGT made no sense. On another discussion forum I read it meant Curry Gabriel Treffenberg, which should be a stamp club. My first reaction upon reading this was that it must be the silliest name for a stamp club ever, until a few hours ago, when another discovery made that I could connect the dots...

Image Not Found


Here are four stamps from the same lot, issued for "stamp day" in 1944 and they show a person who is obviously going by the name C.G. Treffenberg. Now I was intrigued, what had this guy to do with stamps?

Fortunately Wikipedia knows. Well, only the Swedish Wikipedia page, but I can read most of it and what I do not understand, Google Translate does.
It turns out Curry Gabriel Treffenberg (with Curry being the family name that was later "enhanced" by adding Treffenberg. No idea why his first name is always mentioned second) was a Swedish officer and civil servant, who had a brilliant idea in 1823: what if the Swedish state would introduce pieces of "stamped" paper that could be used to pay for sending letters? He presented the idea to the Riksdagen, the Swedish parliament on the 3rd of March (the date also mentioned on the stamp), that rejected it. Treffenberg returned to his job and after some financial troubles emigrated to Denmark. In 1840 a guy called Hill introduced stamps in Great Britain and 15 years later Sweden followed. At that point some people remembered the vision Treffenberg had, and suggested that he should receive a medal for it. This never happened, nor did he ever receive any recognition for thinking of a way to prepay mail delivery 17 years before the "real" invention. In 1874, as an old man, he returned to Sweden where he died a year later, age 84.
Somehow Treffenberg was still remembered by Swedish philatelists and in 1944, on 3 March, 121 years after the proposal, the first Swedish stamp day was organized and the seals I showed were issued.

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19 Nov 2025
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re: France and Sweden - Need help

Great story Jansimon!

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19 Nov 2025
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re: France and Sweden - Need help

The first one is an official label used on early airmail that " must be affixed by the postal workers on the folds to be transported by air" according to Colnect. Yvert EPA1. It was issued in 1920 and is listed as "Precurseur Guynemer" in my 2022-2023 Spink/Maury with a value of 20 unused.

The middle one is a precancel, listed in Spink as number 29 with a value of 725 unused.

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"'That's just it,' said the Hemulen in despair. 'It's finished. There isn't a stamp, or an error that I haven't collected. Not one. What shall I do now? ''Nature study!' declares the Hemulen. 'I shall botanize'. "
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19 Nov 2025
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19 Nov 2025
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