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Europe/Germany : A strange cinderella label

 

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Jansimon
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27 Sep 2025
08:04:14am

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It pretends to be old (Deutsches Reich in Fraktur font) yet it is new (since it mentions 1974)

Is it some kind of revisionist propaganda, issued by a group representing German people forced to leave the Sudetenland region?

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27 Sep 2025
08:17:15am
re: A strange cinderella label

Interesting. I was just reading about the history of the fraktur font. Did the creators use it to make it more traditionally "Germanic"?

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DaveSheridan
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27 Sep 2025
08:25:51am
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Ernie, you need to get out more...

The translation of "Blood sacrifice for the right to self-determination" suggests you're right Jansimon

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27 Sep 2025
08:49:34am

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Dave: yes, that is what I thought, but this stamp is so obscure that I cannot find anything about it using Google Lens or other tools. Nor that I can find any reference to far right neo nazis (let's not beat around the bush) that had an agenda to bring the topic Sudetenland in the news again.

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27 Sep 2025
08:55:39am
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Dave,
You're right. Just trying to understand the significance of the use of the font. Would love to get your thoughts on that. Sounds like you have some; do share.

Ernie

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Jansimon
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27 Sep 2025
08:56:16am

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Ernie: yes, Fraktur was long considered "über"Germanic and as such it was the most common font used in Germany for a long time. The nazis had no issue with it for a long time until all of a sudden Hitler decided it was Jewish, so he had it abolished in 1941. The truth is that it was not practical, apart from the Germans all the newly conquered "brother nations" that had to be administered could not read it, so they changed to Helvetica and other modern fonts.
The funny part is that the official order to abolish Fraktur was written on a paper with Fraktur letterhead.
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27 Sep 2025
08:59:22am
re: A strange cinderella label

Jansimon,

That's insane, like everything else the nazis did.

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DaveSheridan
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27 Sep 2025
09:36:32am
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Ernie, I've got nothing. Until I read this thread, I'd never heard the name Fraktur, accordingly I'm going to read about it too!

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27 Sep 2025
09:48:58am

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Fraktur is the type of gothic script that was most commonly used in print. So Fraktur is a gothic font but not all gothic fonts are Fraktur

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27 Sep 2025
11:03:12am
re: A strange cinderella label

@Dave,

I am such a nerd. I hear something interesting and I start googling.

Trying to not be like Cliff Claven from Cheers.

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Jansimon

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27 Sep 2025
08:04:14am

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It pretends to be old (Deutsches Reich in Fraktur font) yet it is new (since it mentions 1974)

Is it some kind of revisionist propaganda, issued by a group representing German people forced to leave the Sudetenland region?

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27 Sep 2025
08:17:15am

re: A strange cinderella label

Interesting. I was just reading about the history of the fraktur font. Did the creators use it to make it more traditionally "Germanic"?

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DaveSheridan

27 Sep 2025
08:25:51am

re: A strange cinderella label

Ernie, you need to get out more...

The translation of "Blood sacrifice for the right to self-determination" suggests you're right Jansimon

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27 Sep 2025
08:49:34am

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re: A strange cinderella label

Dave: yes, that is what I thought, but this stamp is so obscure that I cannot find anything about it using Google Lens or other tools. Nor that I can find any reference to far right neo nazis (let's not beat around the bush) that had an agenda to bring the topic Sudetenland in the news again.

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ernieinjax

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27 Sep 2025
08:55:39am

re: A strange cinderella label

Dave,
You're right. Just trying to understand the significance of the use of the font. Would love to get your thoughts on that. Sounds like you have some; do share.

Ernie

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Jansimon

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27 Sep 2025
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re: A strange cinderella label

Ernie: yes, Fraktur was long considered "über"Germanic and as such it was the most common font used in Germany for a long time. The nazis had no issue with it for a long time until all of a sudden Hitler decided it was Jewish, so he had it abolished in 1941. The truth is that it was not practical, apart from the Germans all the newly conquered "brother nations" that had to be administered could not read it, so they changed to Helvetica and other modern fonts.
The funny part is that the official order to abolish Fraktur was written on a paper with Fraktur letterhead.
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27 Sep 2025
08:59:22am

re: A strange cinderella label

Jansimon,

That's insane, like everything else the nazis did.

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DaveSheridan

27 Sep 2025
09:36:32am

re: A strange cinderella label

Ernie, I've got nothing. Until I read this thread, I'd never heard the name Fraktur, accordingly I'm going to read about it too!

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Jansimon

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27 Sep 2025
09:48:58am

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re: A strange cinderella label

Fraktur is the type of gothic script that was most commonly used in print. So Fraktur is a gothic font but not all gothic fonts are Fraktur

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ernieinjax

APS 203949
27 Sep 2025
11:03:12am

re: A strange cinderella label

@Dave,

I am such a nerd. I hear something interesting and I start googling.

Trying to not be like Cliff Claven from Cheers.

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