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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : BOGUS!

 

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ernieinjax
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04 Nov 2024
12:58:23pm
Currently being offered on a popular auction site for $15.00 starting bid + $2.50 shipping:


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04 Nov 2024
01:07:38pm

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re: BOGUS!

Can you explain why it is bogus? I do not see the problem.

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04 Nov 2024
01:10:29pm
re: BOGUS!

Jansimon:

Stamps have bold cancels that are inexplicably not tied to the card. Stamps have obviously been affixed from somewhere else.

Additionally, the rate paid makes no sense.

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04 Nov 2024
01:22:33pm
re: BOGUS!

Agreed, stamps are bogusly applied, but it is listed in "Topographical postcards", so the price may be because of the other side. Collectors of small town postcards more often than not do not care about the stamp side.

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04 Nov 2024
01:28:25pm

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Once you know what to look for, it is pretty evident.

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04 Nov 2024
01:29:37pm
re: BOGUS!

It's nothing special. Just another common, old postcard from Jacksonville, Florida. Laughing

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04 Nov 2024
01:34:01pm
re: BOGUS!

Isn't it possible that the #295 is a silent precancel and the oxidized C19 has the rest of it's postmark under the 2 cent stamp which was put on later to make up the correct postage? I can't figure out why someone would have bothered to fake this! We seem to find fakes everywhere!! Neither of the stamps, even in combination, is very expensive so why do up some kind of fake? The explanation might not be any more than the sender just put on what he had lying around, if that makes any sense at all!

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04 Nov 2024
01:41:13pm
re: BOGUS!

What is the title of the listing? Does the seller advertise stamps? At $15 there may be no intent to defraud. At $1500 there would be no question.

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04 Nov 2024
01:54:19pm
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/146146266929


@Roy... I know what you mean about small towns.. I've seen a beat up old match book from the 70s from a small town diner go for what I thought was big bucks just because there are people that collect EVERTHING they can find with the name of their small town on it.


Seller has 9k transactions at %100. they probably just pulled it out of a batch and put it on the scanner.

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04 Nov 2024
04:47:32pm
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I can see it being priced at $15, optimistically, for the main street and trolley car view. IMO, the stamps were stuck on to cover the fact that the original stamps were removed, thus "improving" the card for the exclusively postcard collector.

The choice of stamps is suspect. The 1901 Pan American on a circa 1908-1910 card (my guess: divided back post-1908, no automobiles in the picture, probably a recycled image from pre-1904) and a 1930s airmail stamp about 20 years too late.

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04 Nov 2024
05:16:24pm
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Roy, I hear ya but for me it's a deal breaker. All them Frankenstein stamps on it. And then if you take em off it looks like a bald eagle. Naahh.

I dont know enough to comment on the card's relative scarcity. Youre right, though. Someone could jump in irrespective of the wrong stamps and be glad to get it.

$15 plus $2.50... from what I'm seeing, that price tag puts it WAY up there compared to comparable cards.

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04 Nov 2024
06:02:36pm
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Good catch!!!!

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04 Nov 2024
06:47:15pm
re: BOGUS!

Harvey,

The 295 has the killer from an International Machine cancel machine. It is not a mute cancel.

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04 Nov 2024
06:56:51pm
re: BOGUS!

Thanks Antonio. That's not my area so I learned something today. That always makes for a good day!

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04 Nov 2024
12:58:23pm

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04 Nov 2024
01:07:38pm

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re: BOGUS!

Can you explain why it is bogus? I do not see the problem.

Jan-Simon

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04 Nov 2024
01:10:29pm

re: BOGUS!

Jansimon:

Stamps have bold cancels that are inexplicably not tied to the card. Stamps have obviously been affixed from somewhere else.

Additionally, the rate paid makes no sense.

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04 Nov 2024
01:22:33pm

re: BOGUS!

Agreed, stamps are bogusly applied, but it is listed in "Topographical postcards", so the price may be because of the other side. Collectors of small town postcards more often than not do not care about the stamp side.

Roy

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"BuckaCover.com: 8,000 new covers coming Wednesday March 26 ... see the website."

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04 Nov 2024
01:28:25pm

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re: BOGUS!

Once you know what to look for, it is pretty evident.

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ernieinjax

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04 Nov 2024
01:29:37pm

re: BOGUS!

It's nothing special. Just another common, old postcard from Jacksonville, Florida. Laughing

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
04 Nov 2024
01:34:01pm

re: BOGUS!

Isn't it possible that the #295 is a silent precancel and the oxidized C19 has the rest of it's postmark under the 2 cent stamp which was put on later to make up the correct postage? I can't figure out why someone would have bothered to fake this! We seem to find fakes everywhere!! Neither of the stamps, even in combination, is very expensive so why do up some kind of fake? The explanation might not be any more than the sender just put on what he had lying around, if that makes any sense at all!

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"As anyone who has ever been around a cat for any length of time well knows cats have enormous patience with the limitations of the humankind."
Webpaper

In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

04 Nov 2024
01:41:13pm

re: BOGUS!

What is the title of the listing? Does the seller advertise stamps? At $15 there may be no intent to defraud. At $1500 there would be no question.

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04 Nov 2024
01:54:19pm

re: BOGUS!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/146146266929


@Roy... I know what you mean about small towns.. I've seen a beat up old match book from the 70s from a small town diner go for what I thought was big bucks just because there are people that collect EVERTHING they can find with the name of their small town on it.


Seller has 9k transactions at %100. they probably just pulled it out of a batch and put it on the scanner.

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04 Nov 2024
04:47:32pm

re: BOGUS!

I can see it being priced at $15, optimistically, for the main street and trolley car view. IMO, the stamps were stuck on to cover the fact that the original stamps were removed, thus "improving" the card for the exclusively postcard collector.

The choice of stamps is suspect. The 1901 Pan American on a circa 1908-1910 card (my guess: divided back post-1908, no automobiles in the picture, probably a recycled image from pre-1904) and a 1930s airmail stamp about 20 years too late.

Roy

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"BuckaCover.com: 8,000 new covers coming Wednesday March 26 ... see the website."

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ernieinjax

APS 203949
04 Nov 2024
05:16:24pm

re: BOGUS!

Roy, I hear ya but for me it's a deal breaker. All them Frankenstein stamps on it. And then if you take em off it looks like a bald eagle. Naahh.

I dont know enough to comment on the card's relative scarcity. Youre right, though. Someone could jump in irrespective of the wrong stamps and be glad to get it.

$15 plus $2.50... from what I'm seeing, that price tag puts it WAY up there compared to comparable cards.

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04 Nov 2024
06:02:36pm

re: BOGUS!

Good catch!!!!

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04 Nov 2024
06:47:15pm

re: BOGUS!

Harvey,

The 295 has the killer from an International Machine cancel machine. It is not a mute cancel.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
04 Nov 2024
06:56:51pm

re: BOGUS!

Thanks Antonio. That's not my area so I learned something today. That always makes for a good day!

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