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Hello BWSchulz,
My old 1999 Michel Deutschland-Spezial catalogue doesn't list these Retourmarken labels for either state.
However, it does show some example pictures of labels from both states. They have the same descriptions as to use and I don't seen any difference mentioned regarding their status.
There are three designs shown for Wurtemberg return labels.
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My 2011 specialized Germany catalogue does list them, but just as reference. The text says: "These are sealing labels for undeliverable mail items that were officially opened for the purpose of determining the sender. They were affixed to the flap on the back and were not postmarked. Since they are not stamps for paying postal fees, they are not catalogued."
There is also a book mentioned that gives detailed information: Gerhard Weileder - Handbuch Retourverschlussmarken (Deutsche Gebiete)
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Jan-Simon's description would make them equivalent to Official USPDOD seals (OX in Scott).
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the description of the OX labels does, as far as I can see, not include the sole purpose of these german labels, i.e. reseal an envelope after opening it to find out whom to return it to. Other than that, they seem to be pretty similar.
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I appreciate everyone's comments. Thanks. I purchased a 1902 Scott International Album. It has spaces for the return mail labels. I don't have a scott catalog that old though.
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Wuerttemberg’s return-mail stamps predated Bavaria’s by eleven years. The one pictured in the original post was issued in 1854 in imperforate and rouletted format. The first issue shows the kingdom’s coat of arms, surrounded by the words “Commission fuer Retourbriefe.”
A new design was issued in 1875. Much simplified, it showed the coat of arms and the words, “Durch Die K. W. Postdirection” below. The initial printing was imperforate. It was reprinted in 1881 perforated.
A third design was issued in 1885. It resembles a seal. It was printed in red and perforated.
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Michel lists Bavarian return mail labels. It does not list the Württemberg return mail label. Why?
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Hello BWSchulz,
My old 1999 Michel Deutschland-Spezial catalogue doesn't list these Retourmarken labels for either state.
However, it does show some example pictures of labels from both states. They have the same descriptions as to use and I don't seen any difference mentioned regarding their status.
There are three designs shown for Wurtemberg return labels.
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My 2011 specialized Germany catalogue does list them, but just as reference. The text says: "These are sealing labels for undeliverable mail items that were officially opened for the purpose of determining the sender. They were affixed to the flap on the back and were not postmarked. Since they are not stamps for paying postal fees, they are not catalogued."
There is also a book mentioned that gives detailed information: Gerhard Weileder - Handbuch Retourverschlussmarken (Deutsche Gebiete)
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Jan-Simon's description would make them equivalent to Official USPDOD seals (OX in Scott).
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the description of the OX labels does, as far as I can see, not include the sole purpose of these german labels, i.e. reseal an envelope after opening it to find out whom to return it to. Other than that, they seem to be pretty similar.
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I appreciate everyone's comments. Thanks. I purchased a 1902 Scott International Album. It has spaces for the return mail labels. I don't have a scott catalog that old though.
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Wuerttemberg’s return-mail stamps predated Bavaria’s by eleven years. The one pictured in the original post was issued in 1854 in imperforate and rouletted format. The first issue shows the kingdom’s coat of arms, surrounded by the words “Commission fuer Retourbriefe.”
A new design was issued in 1875. Much simplified, it showed the coat of arms and the words, “Durch Die K. W. Postdirection” below. The initial printing was imperforate. It was reprinted in 1881 perforated.
A third design was issued in 1885. It resembles a seal. It was printed in red and perforated.
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