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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Fake/Bogus/Cinderella Stamps

 

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ajanaokar

28 Feb 2024
04:35:25am
On the various internet sites, there is lot of dealers selling stamps from African countries, Russian Autonomous countries and some caribbean countries. They are sold to minimum 1USD. Colnect catalogue had listed them as a Agency issues. British Offshore islands like Bernera Islands, Davaar Islands and Staffa are also having stamps issued. Are these all are bogus issues ? Are they acceptable in exhibitions ?
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28 Feb 2024
04:58:43am

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re: Fake/Bogus/Cinderella Stamps

Good questions!
I suppose that there have been people trying to profit from stamp collectors all the time. Forgers like the Spiro brothers, de Sperati and Fournier did so in the 19th century and nowadays many have taken over, creating stuff that is sometimes a complete fantasy, like the British isles you mention. Also the stamps from the socalled autonomous Russian areas are downright fakes. As far as I know, the postal service in the Russian federation is centralized and it is not like in Great Britain that certain regions have permission to issue their own stamps, let alone use them. So all those stamps from Buryatia, Ossetia and whatever else one may find are glossy wallpaper.
It becomes a bit more difficult with many of the African, Caribbean and Pacific countries. These are real countries, with real postal services, yet they outsourced their stamp production to shady companies in Europe and the USA like Stamperija and IGPC that create large amounts of stamps that surpass those countries postal needs by far. It is likely that most of those stamps never ever see a post office in the countries they are supposedly made for. Still, these are not really fraudulent stamps, just a grey area. The government authorized their production, so strictly speaking they are stamps.

At the same time, some clever entrepeneurs make stamps for countries like Afghanistan, without asking permission. These are fakes and if you want to know more, the UPU issues bulletins in which such stamps are identified and listed.

Whether they are acceptable in exhibitions, no idea. I suppose that's up to the organizers of exhibitions to decide. Where do you draw the line?

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Warrehouse

28 Feb 2024
10:24:39am
re: Fake/Bogus/Cinderella Stamps

You may wish to look at the UPU Web site. It may answer some questions. As far as exhibitions go, 1st read the rules and regulations of the sponsor of the exhibition, many will not care if the stamp or stamps meet the theme of your presentation. Unless, of course, the theme is about fake, bogus and Cinderella stamps the exhibition may allow a waiver, while others may not care! Good luck!

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ajanaokar

29 Feb 2024
01:01:44am
re: Fake/Bogus/Cinderella Stamps

Thanks for your valuable inputs. Many things are cleared.
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ajanaokar

28 Feb 2024
04:35:25am

On the various internet sites, there is lot of dealers selling stamps from African countries, Russian Autonomous countries and some caribbean countries. They are sold to minimum 1USD. Colnect catalogue had listed them as a Agency issues. British Offshore islands like Bernera Islands, Davaar Islands and Staffa are also having stamps issued. Are these all are bogus issues ? Are they acceptable in exhibitions ?
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Jansimon

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28 Feb 2024
04:58:43am

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re: Fake/Bogus/Cinderella Stamps

Good questions!
I suppose that there have been people trying to profit from stamp collectors all the time. Forgers like the Spiro brothers, de Sperati and Fournier did so in the 19th century and nowadays many have taken over, creating stuff that is sometimes a complete fantasy, like the British isles you mention. Also the stamps from the socalled autonomous Russian areas are downright fakes. As far as I know, the postal service in the Russian federation is centralized and it is not like in Great Britain that certain regions have permission to issue their own stamps, let alone use them. So all those stamps from Buryatia, Ossetia and whatever else one may find are glossy wallpaper.
It becomes a bit more difficult with many of the African, Caribbean and Pacific countries. These are real countries, with real postal services, yet they outsourced their stamp production to shady companies in Europe and the USA like Stamperija and IGPC that create large amounts of stamps that surpass those countries postal needs by far. It is likely that most of those stamps never ever see a post office in the countries they are supposedly made for. Still, these are not really fraudulent stamps, just a grey area. The government authorized their production, so strictly speaking they are stamps.

At the same time, some clever entrepeneurs make stamps for countries like Afghanistan, without asking permission. These are fakes and if you want to know more, the UPU issues bulletins in which such stamps are identified and listed.

Whether they are acceptable in exhibitions, no idea. I suppose that's up to the organizers of exhibitions to decide. Where do you draw the line?

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Warrehouse

28 Feb 2024
10:24:39am

re: Fake/Bogus/Cinderella Stamps

You may wish to look at the UPU Web site. It may answer some questions. As far as exhibitions go, 1st read the rules and regulations of the sponsor of the exhibition, many will not care if the stamp or stamps meet the theme of your presentation. Unless, of course, the theme is about fake, bogus and Cinderella stamps the exhibition may allow a waiver, while others may not care! Good luck!

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ajanaokar

29 Feb 2024
01:01:44am

re: Fake/Bogus/Cinderella Stamps

Thanks for your valuable inputs. Many things are cleared.
Regards,
Avinash

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