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Africa/All : recent Africa not listed in Scott?

 

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Jansimon
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10 Nov 2023
09:27:26am

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I was trying to find some recent stamps from both Congo's (Democratic Republic - Kinshasa and Congo - Brazzaville) but there is something weird going on here. In my 2017 edition of Scott, the last stamp for Congo Kinshasa is from 2002, Congo Brazzaville has a last entry for 2010. Yet I have postally used stamps (soaked them from a letter even!) dated 2006 for C-K and 2015 for C-B.
So is this just laziness, or could there be a valid reason these stamps are not catalogued?

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10 Nov 2023
09:34:58am

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re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

Partly answering my own question: I found some of the stamps in an old Michel Central Africal from 2012. It seems that for Congo Kinshasa at least 300 more stamps are listed in Michel since the last one in Scott!

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Al
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10 Nov 2023
12:57:15pm
re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

Scott has sometimes claimed they will not list until they see them. I am not sure about Michel but they could have better connections. It would be interesting to ask. Michel has a more liberal listimg policy (like the Dunes).

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10 Nov 2023
03:01:39pm

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re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

That's indeed something and I have seen notes in both Scott and Michel that sometimes they are not sure about certain listings and actively inviting readers/collectors to come up with additional information.
On the other hand: I really cannot believe that Scott has not been able to find out about a country's listing for 15 years. It looks to me that they are just not trying very hard. On the other hand, I can imagine that Congo Kinshasa or Congo Brazzaville is not one of the countries that is a top priority for them.

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10 Nov 2023
09:59:28pm
re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

SG ends C-B at 2006 and C-K at 1971 when it became Zaire. Zaire became Congo DR in 1997, and SG ends at 2002.

SG has "Appendix" listings for C-B and Congo DR. The appendix note is:

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Soaking them may not have been the best move.....

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Al
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11 Nov 2023
06:19:42am
re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

That statement could apply to the majority of stamps issued by all countries these days.

At this point it is out of control so let the collectors decide.

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11 Nov 2023
05:11:26pm

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re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

It seems that SG is the only one to mention this. Scott just stops and gives no explanation, while Michel lists the stamps and gives them a value.
They come as kiloware, cut from the letters. Unfortunately most of the times, they are stacked on top of each other like roof tiles, because of inflation. 15 to 20 stamps on one letter is not uncommon. That means only one of the stamps is properly cancelled. There goes the proof...

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Jansimon

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10 Nov 2023
09:27:26am

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I was trying to find some recent stamps from both Congo's (Democratic Republic - Kinshasa and Congo - Brazzaville) but there is something weird going on here. In my 2017 edition of Scott, the last stamp for Congo Kinshasa is from 2002, Congo Brazzaville has a last entry for 2010. Yet I have postally used stamps (soaked them from a letter even!) dated 2006 for C-K and 2015 for C-B.
So is this just laziness, or could there be a valid reason these stamps are not catalogued?

Jan-Simon

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re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

Partly answering my own question: I found some of the stamps in an old Michel Central Africal from 2012. It seems that for Congo Kinshasa at least 300 more stamps are listed in Michel since the last one in Scott!

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Al
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10 Nov 2023
12:57:15pm

re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

Scott has sometimes claimed they will not list until they see them. I am not sure about Michel but they could have better connections. It would be interesting to ask. Michel has a more liberal listimg policy (like the Dunes).

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10 Nov 2023
03:01:39pm

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re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

That's indeed something and I have seen notes in both Scott and Michel that sometimes they are not sure about certain listings and actively inviting readers/collectors to come up with additional information.
On the other hand: I really cannot believe that Scott has not been able to find out about a country's listing for 15 years. It looks to me that they are just not trying very hard. On the other hand, I can imagine that Congo Kinshasa or Congo Brazzaville is not one of the countries that is a top priority for them.

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10 Nov 2023
09:59:28pm

re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

SG ends C-B at 2006 and C-K at 1971 when it became Zaire. Zaire became Congo DR in 1997, and SG ends at 2002.

SG has "Appendix" listings for C-B and Congo DR. The appendix note is:

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Soaking them may not have been the best move.....

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Al
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11 Nov 2023
06:19:42am

re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

That statement could apply to the majority of stamps issued by all countries these days.

At this point it is out of control so let the collectors decide.

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11 Nov 2023
05:11:26pm

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re: recent Africa not listed in Scott?

It seems that SG is the only one to mention this. Scott just stops and gives no explanation, while Michel lists the stamps and gives them a value.
They come as kiloware, cut from the letters. Unfortunately most of the times, they are stacked on top of each other like roof tiles, because of inflation. 15 to 20 stamps on one letter is not uncommon. That means only one of the stamps is properly cancelled. There goes the proof...

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