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BWSchulz

17 Oct 2023
08:59:50pm
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This is obviously Michel Number 12; the cancellation date shows that. It is rouletted. I've never seen a rouletted example and can't find a reference to rouletted issues. Michel notes perforation varieties, but as far as I can see, does not mention rouletting.

What am I missing?

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APS #213005

17 Oct 2023
09:18:47pm
re: North German Confederation

This is the entry from my 2016 Scott Catalog;


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Looks like it can be rouletted.

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BWSchulz

17 Oct 2023
09:29:20pm
re: North German Confederation

excellent help. thanks!

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Jopie
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20 Jan 2024
07:01:25pm
re: North German Confederation

Image Not FoundI have this wrapper from Whipperfurth but can not figure out how to read the date the wrapper was mailed. It is November 10 (I think) but the year?

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21 Jan 2024
03:36:31pm
re: North German Confederation

Hi Jopie,

Yes, it appears to be posted on the 10th of November in Wipperfürth in what was then Prussia and sent to Oldenburg. The year isn't specified.

I believe the AUSG. mark is from Oldenburg applied when it was sorted for delivery.

The 7-8A will be be the collection or processing time, i.e. the period 7pm to 8pm, where the letter A represents the evening (Abend).

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21 Jan 2024
03:53:24pm

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it appears that the rectangular cancel was used at the end of the North German Confederation period, around 1870. Before Wipperfürth used the numeral cancel with four concentric rings and the number 1650. When the unification of Germany was complete (the German Reich) in 1871, a round cancel with name and proper date (including year) was used, but at that time the Confederation stamps were not used anymore either. So an educated guess would be 10 November 1870.

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21 Jan 2024
07:46:34pm
re: North German Confederation

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nk you. Nigel and Jansimon for that great explanation of the cancel! Makes perfect sense to me! I had tried the Michel catalogue but could not find that particular cancel. Thanks!
Jopie

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BWSchulz

17 Oct 2023
08:59:50pm

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This is obviously Michel Number 12; the cancellation date shows that. It is rouletted. I've never seen a rouletted example and can't find a reference to rouletted issues. Michel notes perforation varieties, but as far as I can see, does not mention rouletting.

What am I missing?

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APS #213005
17 Oct 2023
09:18:47pm

re: North German Confederation

This is the entry from my 2016 Scott Catalog;


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Looks like it can be rouletted.

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BWSchulz

17 Oct 2023
09:29:20pm

re: North German Confederation

excellent help. thanks!

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Jopie

20 Jan 2024
07:01:25pm

re: North German Confederation

Image Not FoundI have this wrapper from Whipperfurth but can not figure out how to read the date the wrapper was mailed. It is November 10 (I think) but the year?

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nigelc

21 Jan 2024
03:36:31pm

re: North German Confederation

Hi Jopie,

Yes, it appears to be posted on the 10th of November in Wipperfürth in what was then Prussia and sent to Oldenburg. The year isn't specified.

I believe the AUSG. mark is from Oldenburg applied when it was sorted for delivery.

The 7-8A will be be the collection or processing time, i.e. the period 7pm to 8pm, where the letter A represents the evening (Abend).

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Jansimon

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21 Jan 2024
03:53:24pm

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re: North German Confederation

it appears that the rectangular cancel was used at the end of the North German Confederation period, around 1870. Before Wipperfürth used the numeral cancel with four concentric rings and the number 1650. When the unification of Germany was complete (the German Reich) in 1871, a round cancel with name and proper date (including year) was used, but at that time the Confederation stamps were not used anymore either. So an educated guess would be 10 November 1870.

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Jopie

21 Jan 2024
07:46:34pm

re: North German Confederation

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nk you. Nigel and Jansimon for that great explanation of the cancel! Makes perfect sense to me! I had tried the Michel catalogue but could not find that particular cancel. Thanks!
Jopie

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