Any chance of a decent sized image, might help us give some advice.
the posting system rejects larger images. But, you can see the original ebay image here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/145280273871. Scroll down the page to the image and click on that.
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Does this help?
Thanks for posting an improved image. Alas, still no solution to the problem.
No, no idea what this is...
Reverse scan please!
1898
"Reverse scan please!"
Apart from the fact that it is unclear to me as well how scanning the reverse could help in identifying this item, there is a practical problem as this is part of a lot offered on ebay. You'd have to ask the seller.
I know what it's NOT.
1) No Telephon-Billets
2) No Flugmarke
3) No Telegrafenmarken
4) No Retourmarken
5) No Portomarken
6) No Portofreiheitsmarken
7) No Dienstmarken
Process of elimination
8) No Eisenbahn marken
9) No Steuermarken
I do not think it is a stamp.
Or it has to be PRIVATPOST or STADTPOST.
In most if not all cases, it is mentioned one way or another that it is local or city mail, isn't it? This only says Bayern, which to me is no indication it is a local...
I read the original posters posting, I thought the collector had the stamp in question.
So I understand why a reverse scan is not possible!
Often times right and proper examination of the reverse side of a stamp can help in it's identification.
When I start to identify a stamp I always examine the reverse side first and make notes, then examine the front side. A friends Mr. Inman, and Mr. Neiss both taught me to always examine the reverse side first and make notes! (both of my friends are not members of SOR, one is dead and the other dislikes SOR)
1898
I own the stamp. There is nothing to scan on the reverse. It is plain white with a hinge remnant. It is vaguely similar to the revenues of 1882, but not close enough to identify it as a revenue.
My guess, and it is only a guess, is that this is a trial proof for something.
Just a thought , it could be from a childrens toy post office game. These are still offered today.
"Kinderpost" is what you're referring to. Interesting thought. Most, if not all of what I have seen do not have a country name on the "stamps", but perhaps this was different. Perhaps made in a period when Bayern / Bavaria was no longer a stamp issuing country.
My first reaction to this was the same as Opa's.
I remember seeing some old style toy stamp / Kinderpost stamps many years ago perhaps from the 1900s or 1920s. I believe these sometimes had a country name but they were often in a smaller format than real postage stamps.
I believe as well as post office toy stamps, there were also stamp collecting games with labels representing different countries.
Thanks Jansimon for reminding me of the "Kinderpost" name which I had forgotten.
I mentioned "Kinderpost" here before :
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_m ...
This could well be possible.......
All the kinderpost stamps I've seen say "kinderpost." The 'stamp' i posted above does not say kinderpost.
I found this included in a lot of Bavarian stamps. What is it? Is it a stationary corner? A revenue? Does anyone know? All help greatly appreciated.
re: Bavaria Mystery
Any chance of a decent sized image, might help us give some advice.
re: Bavaria Mystery
the posting system rejects larger images. But, you can see the original ebay image here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/145280273871. Scroll down the page to the image and click on that.
Moderator: Link active.
(Modified by Moderator on 2023-09-25 05:46:24)
re: Bavaria Mystery
Does this help?
re: Bavaria Mystery
Thanks for posting an improved image. Alas, still no solution to the problem.
re: Bavaria Mystery
No, no idea what this is...
re: Bavaria Mystery
"Reverse scan please!"
re: Bavaria Mystery
Apart from the fact that it is unclear to me as well how scanning the reverse could help in identifying this item, there is a practical problem as this is part of a lot offered on ebay. You'd have to ask the seller.
re: Bavaria Mystery
I know what it's NOT.
1) No Telephon-Billets
2) No Flugmarke
3) No Telegrafenmarken
4) No Retourmarken
5) No Portomarken
6) No Portofreiheitsmarken
7) No Dienstmarken
re: Bavaria Mystery
Process of elimination
re: Bavaria Mystery
8) No Eisenbahn marken
9) No Steuermarken
I do not think it is a stamp.
Or it has to be PRIVATPOST or STADTPOST.
re: Bavaria Mystery
In most if not all cases, it is mentioned one way or another that it is local or city mail, isn't it? This only says Bayern, which to me is no indication it is a local...
re: Bavaria Mystery
I read the original posters posting, I thought the collector had the stamp in question.
So I understand why a reverse scan is not possible!
Often times right and proper examination of the reverse side of a stamp can help in it's identification.
When I start to identify a stamp I always examine the reverse side first and make notes, then examine the front side. A friends Mr. Inman, and Mr. Neiss both taught me to always examine the reverse side first and make notes! (both of my friends are not members of SOR, one is dead and the other dislikes SOR)
1898
re: Bavaria Mystery
I own the stamp. There is nothing to scan on the reverse. It is plain white with a hinge remnant. It is vaguely similar to the revenues of 1882, but not close enough to identify it as a revenue.
My guess, and it is only a guess, is that this is a trial proof for something.
re: Bavaria Mystery
Just a thought , it could be from a childrens toy post office game. These are still offered today.
re: Bavaria Mystery
"Kinderpost" is what you're referring to. Interesting thought. Most, if not all of what I have seen do not have a country name on the "stamps", but perhaps this was different. Perhaps made in a period when Bayern / Bavaria was no longer a stamp issuing country.
re: Bavaria Mystery
My first reaction to this was the same as Opa's.
I remember seeing some old style toy stamp / Kinderpost stamps many years ago perhaps from the 1900s or 1920s. I believe these sometimes had a country name but they were often in a smaller format than real postage stamps.
I believe as well as post office toy stamps, there were also stamp collecting games with labels representing different countries.
Thanks Jansimon for reminding me of the "Kinderpost" name which I had forgotten.
re: Bavaria Mystery
I mentioned "Kinderpost" here before :
https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_m ...
This could well be possible.......
re: Bavaria Mystery
All the kinderpost stamps I've seen say "kinderpost." The 'stamp' i posted above does not say kinderpost.