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Europe/Other : Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

 

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21 Aug 2023
12:01:39pm
A member of my local Kingston (Ontario) Stamp Club approached me at the end of our last meeting and asked me if I could explain the difference between the two Coat of Arms issues Scott design A27 (#60-64) and A32 (#82-84). Not having a Scott at the meeting, I researched it when I came home. I happen to have a whole pile of Belgium postcards going up in my upcoming upload (Thursday August 24 - over 8,000 new covers) so I took a look through, found examples of each and made him the following image.

Thought I would share.

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If you don't have the label, there are other differences, particularly in the quality of the printing, but too minute for me to go into.

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21 Aug 2023
06:34:13pm
re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

@Roy

If these issues were off cover are they printed by the right and proper same printing method or different?

Is there any differences in the paper?

If water marked is the watermarked the same or different?

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21 Aug 2023
07:00:52pm
re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

Sorry, I offered a guide to the identification according to Scott catalogue, not a treatise on the stamps.

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21 Aug 2023
07:06:38pm
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OK, I fully understand, thanks.

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22 Aug 2023
09:27:48am
re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

Hi Roy,

I like your examples. Nice to that these both have two labels attached which I don't remember seeing before.

I really, really don't want this to be delivered on a Sunday!

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22 Aug 2023
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re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

Remarkable that this once was a choice. Nowadays, one can want a letter be delivered on a Sunday, but it won't happen.

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22 Aug 2023
09:53:52am
re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

I always like talking about stamps. I don't collect Belgium stamps, I'd like to hear from some one who can describe the way to ID the differences.

Would be interesting to see scans if possible.

One question I have: Did each stamp have these tabs in the pane, and what is the reason for the tabs (I guess that's 2 questions).

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22 Aug 2023
10:13:19pm
re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

OK, a couple of reasonable questions.

1) Identification if the label is not present. Inspection will reveal that the vertical border lines of the stamp (outside edges) are continuous to the bottom label on type A27 -- they cross the perfs. There is significant white space between the stamp and the bottom label on type A32.

The upper label is extraneous. The sheet was laid out so that it was the bottom label that was intended to go with the stamp, if desired (explanation of that below). However, if your stamp is centered too low, this may not be apparent and you are out of luck.

2) Purpose of the label. Due to religious differences there was difference of opinion on whether mail service should be provided on Sundays. The government gave mailers the option of choosing whether or not the letter should be allowed to be delivered on a Sunday. The label reads "Ne pas livrer le Dimanche" in French and also Flemish. Translating as "Do not deliver on Sunday". Removing the label from the stamp prior to mailing would allow delivery on a Sunday.

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22 Aug 2023
10:37:07pm
re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

OK, reasonable answers!

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A member of my local Kingston (Ontario) Stamp Club approached me at the end of our last meeting and asked me if I could explain the difference between the two Coat of Arms issues Scott design A27 (#60-64) and A32 (#82-84). Not having a Scott at the meeting, I researched it when I came home. I happen to have a whole pile of Belgium postcards going up in my upcoming upload (Thursday August 24 - over 8,000 new covers) so I took a look through, found examples of each and made him the following image.

Thought I would share.

Image Not Found

If you don't have the label, there are other differences, particularly in the quality of the printing, but too minute for me to go into.

Roy

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1898

21 Aug 2023
06:34:13pm

re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

@Roy

If these issues were off cover are they printed by the right and proper same printing method or different?

Is there any differences in the paper?

If water marked is the watermarked the same or different?

Thank

1898

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21 Aug 2023
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re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

Sorry, I offered a guide to the identification according to Scott catalogue, not a treatise on the stamps.

Roy

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"Over 7,000 new covers coming Wednesday March 20. See my homepage for details."

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1898

21 Aug 2023
07:06:38pm

re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

@Roy

OK, I fully understand, thanks.

1898

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22 Aug 2023
09:27:48am

re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

Hi Roy,

I like your examples. Nice to that these both have two labels attached which I don't remember seeing before.

I really, really don't want this to be delivered on a Sunday!

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22 Aug 2023
09:34:54am

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re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

Remarkable that this once was a choice. Nowadays, one can want a letter be delivered on a Sunday, but it won't happen.

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1898

22 Aug 2023
09:53:52am

re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

I always like talking about stamps. I don't collect Belgium stamps, I'd like to hear from some one who can describe the way to ID the differences.

Would be interesting to see scans if possible.

One question I have: Did each stamp have these tabs in the pane, and what is the reason for the tabs (I guess that's 2 questions).

1898


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22 Aug 2023
10:13:19pm

re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

OK, a couple of reasonable questions.

1) Identification if the label is not present. Inspection will reveal that the vertical border lines of the stamp (outside edges) are continuous to the bottom label on type A27 -- they cross the perfs. There is significant white space between the stamp and the bottom label on type A32.

The upper label is extraneous. The sheet was laid out so that it was the bottom label that was intended to go with the stamp, if desired (explanation of that below). However, if your stamp is centered too low, this may not be apparent and you are out of luck.

2) Purpose of the label. Due to religious differences there was difference of opinion on whether mail service should be provided on Sundays. The government gave mailers the option of choosing whether or not the letter should be allowed to be delivered on a Sunday. The label reads "Ne pas livrer le Dimanche" in French and also Flemish. Translating as "Do not deliver on Sunday". Removing the label from the stamp prior to mailing would allow delivery on a Sunday.

Roy

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"Over 7,000 new covers coming Wednesday March 20. See my homepage for details."

www.Buckacover.com
1898

22 Aug 2023
10:37:07pm

re: Belgium - difference between Scott designs A27 and A32

OK, reasonable answers!

1898

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