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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Marginal Inscriptions

 

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1898

01 Aug 2023
09:23:02am
Marginal inscriptions I think are important on classic stamps!

Do SOR members pay any attention to these inscriptions?

Please show some of these and what they mean!

These marginal inscriptions are not jokes.

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01 Aug 2023
09:28:38am

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Perhaps you can give some examples. At this moment I have no idea what you mean. Can these be found on any classic stamp, or only on stamps from specific countries?

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1898

01 Aug 2023
10:01:09am
re: Marginal Inscriptions

My examples are packed away, as I'm moving.

Marginal inscriptions are found on the margin, not on the stamp itself!

I don't know if there are any countries that do not use marginal inscriptions.




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1898

01 Aug 2023
10:57:55am
re: Marginal Inscriptions

Here is a hand drawing (never claimed to be good at drawing, now my hands shake a lot all the time)

Hope this helps you.

I know I will not get any points for my drawing, but it's the best I can do right now.

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01 Aug 2023
10:59:23am
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I forgot to attach the drawing, this drawing belong to my posting above

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01 Aug 2023
12:12:34pm
re: Marginal Inscriptions

I think he means the imprint i.e., printers marks in the margins of the sheet. I also include engravers and designers markings outside (often at the bottom) the design of the stamp.

Example #1 of a plate strip (edit) with BEP imprint in the margin -- S.264 1c Blue of 1895:

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But I also include the following as an imprint -- the names below the design:

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01 Aug 2023
12:24:03pm
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Here are some common answers.
https://en.mimi.hu/philately/marginal_in ...

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01 Aug 2023
12:38:02pm
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The very first stamp started a trend (and no, this isn't mine, far beyond my pay grade).

Instructions and plate number.

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01 Aug 2023
12:51:18pm
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1898

01 Aug 2023
01:18:58pm
re: Marginal Inscriptions

Wonderful examples, well done.

Just to be clear a Scott 264 is not a plate block, this is a plate strip of 3, the imprint is type 5!

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1898

01 Aug 2023
01:21:58pm
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@Jansimon

Now you know what marginal inscriptions are, I'm very happy I could help you out!

Need any more help just ask!!!

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01 Aug 2023
04:43:07pm
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Looks like I made a mistake, found my binder full of the Pan American Issues with marginal inscriptions. I'm still doing research on the meaning of the little numbers. Many people have guesses, but no one so far has provided any back ground on this little numbers. I'll find out what these numbers mean. I'm not talking about the large numbers!

I'll have to repack now for my move.

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02 Aug 2023
12:32:21pm
re: Marginal Inscriptions

I like this Thread. I believe that markings on Margins, especially on older stamps are important for two reasons . #1. Identification, #2. Value. Many collectors back in the day tore the selvedge off so the stamp would better fit their albums making some marks very hard if not almost impossible to find.
Take for example Bohamia & Moravia wich is not a large collection in it self only about 6 years (1939-1944). Try to get all the stars on the selvedge plus plate numbers etc.. You will probably after several years be almost complete but there will be several that you will not find, even though these are only cents in value.

Here a few examples.
Plate numbers from large and small sheets.

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Single, double and tripple stars.

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Centering marks, or crosses.

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and just to make it a little bit more fun there are stars and stars within stars.

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and last but no less fun plate numbers that were printed in a negative fashion.

......Image Not Found


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1898

02 Aug 2023
01:47:25pm
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@Opa

Wow, very interesting display!

Thank you very much.

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02 Aug 2023
01:48:13pm
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You have a nice little collection there, Opa. It seems like there are a wide variety of marginal inscriptions based on the time period and the country.

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Jack

02 Aug 2023
02:19:49pm
re: Marginal Inscriptions

BTW -- the letters in the selvage on the Pan-American block, are I believe the pressmen's initials. See another example below (definitely not mine Laughing Laughing Laughing)

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02 Aug 2023
02:21:36pm
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Yes that's what they are called.

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03 Aug 2023
01:49:02pm
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So I Should have added "pressmen's initials" to the subject line also?

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04 Aug 2023
12:13:07am
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''... So I Should have added "pressmen's initials" to the subject line also? ...''

NO. I ThinK anyone interested understood. You are being too hard on your self.

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1898

04 Aug 2023
09:25:25am
re: Marginal Inscriptions

A previous poster said "Perhaps you can give some examples. At this moment I have no idea what you mean. Can these be found on any classic stamp, or only on stamps from specific countries?"

I guess there are collectors out there in stamp collecting world who do not know what these are. Hard to believe this, but it must be true.

So better to include everything, than to leave anything out.

I know my hand drawing probably did not help, but it was the best I could do at the time.

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04 Aug 2023
12:52:11pm
re: Marginal Inscriptions

I collect marginal markings on all Costa Rica stamps, all Netherlands Indies / Indonesia stamps, all US airmail stamps, and all US stamps 1976-2000 (13-cent to 33-cent era).

I found (and have in my collection) the discovery example of the Scott USA 1592 10-cent Americana plate block (plate number 37246) on dull gum.

I am am member of the American Plate Number Single Society (APNSS) www.apnss.org.

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1898

01 Aug 2023
09:23:02am

Marginal inscriptions I think are important on classic stamps!

Do SOR members pay any attention to these inscriptions?

Please show some of these and what they mean!

These marginal inscriptions are not jokes.

1898

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Jansimon

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01 Aug 2023
09:28:38am

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re: Marginal Inscriptions

Perhaps you can give some examples. At this moment I have no idea what you mean. Can these be found on any classic stamp, or only on stamps from specific countries?

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1898

01 Aug 2023
10:01:09am

re: Marginal Inscriptions

My examples are packed away, as I'm moving.

Marginal inscriptions are found on the margin, not on the stamp itself!

I don't know if there are any countries that do not use marginal inscriptions.




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1898

01 Aug 2023
10:57:55am

re: Marginal Inscriptions

Here is a hand drawing (never claimed to be good at drawing, now my hands shake a lot all the time)

Hope this helps you.

I know I will not get any points for my drawing, but it's the best I can do right now.

1898


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1898

01 Aug 2023
10:59:23am

re: Marginal Inscriptions

I forgot to attach the drawing, this drawing belong to my posting above

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Jack
01 Aug 2023
12:12:34pm

re: Marginal Inscriptions

I think he means the imprint i.e., printers marks in the margins of the sheet. I also include engravers and designers markings outside (often at the bottom) the design of the stamp.

Example #1 of a plate strip (edit) with BEP imprint in the margin -- S.264 1c Blue of 1895:

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But I also include the following as an imprint -- the names below the design:

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01 Aug 2023
12:24:03pm

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Here are some common answers.
https://en.mimi.hu/philately/marginal_in ...

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01 Aug 2023
12:38:02pm

re: Marginal Inscriptions

The very first stamp started a trend (and no, this isn't mine, far beyond my pay grade).

Instructions and plate number.

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01 Aug 2023
12:51:18pm

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1898

01 Aug 2023
01:18:58pm

re: Marginal Inscriptions

Wonderful examples, well done.

Just to be clear a Scott 264 is not a plate block, this is a plate strip of 3, the imprint is type 5!

1898

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1898

01 Aug 2023
01:21:58pm

re: Marginal Inscriptions

@Jansimon

Now you know what marginal inscriptions are, I'm very happy I could help you out!

Need any more help just ask!!!

1898

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1898

01 Aug 2023
04:43:07pm

re: Marginal Inscriptions

Looks like I made a mistake, found my binder full of the Pan American Issues with marginal inscriptions. I'm still doing research on the meaning of the little numbers. Many people have guesses, but no one so far has provided any back ground on this little numbers. I'll find out what these numbers mean. I'm not talking about the large numbers!

I'll have to repack now for my move.

1898

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02 Aug 2023
12:32:21pm

re: Marginal Inscriptions

I like this Thread. I believe that markings on Margins, especially on older stamps are important for two reasons . #1. Identification, #2. Value. Many collectors back in the day tore the selvedge off so the stamp would better fit their albums making some marks very hard if not almost impossible to find.
Take for example Bohamia & Moravia wich is not a large collection in it self only about 6 years (1939-1944). Try to get all the stars on the selvedge plus plate numbers etc.. You will probably after several years be almost complete but there will be several that you will not find, even though these are only cents in value.

Here a few examples.
Plate numbers from large and small sheets.

......Image Not Found


Single, double and tripple stars.

......Image Not Found

Centering marks, or crosses.

......Image Not Found

and just to make it a little bit more fun there are stars and stars within stars.

......Image Not Found

and last but no less fun plate numbers that were printed in a negative fashion.

......Image Not Found


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1898

02 Aug 2023
01:47:25pm

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@Opa

Wow, very interesting display!

Thank you very much.

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02 Aug 2023
01:48:13pm

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You have a nice little collection there, Opa. It seems like there are a wide variety of marginal inscriptions based on the time period and the country.

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02 Aug 2023
02:19:49pm

re: Marginal Inscriptions

BTW -- the letters in the selvage on the Pan-American block, are I believe the pressmen's initials. See another example below (definitely not mine Laughing Laughing Laughing)

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02 Aug 2023
02:21:36pm

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Yes that's what they are called.

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03 Aug 2023
01:49:02pm

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So I Should have added "pressmen's initials" to the subject line also?

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04 Aug 2023
12:13:07am

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''... So I Should have added "pressmen's initials" to the subject line also? ...''

NO. I ThinK anyone interested understood. You are being too hard on your self.

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1898

04 Aug 2023
09:25:25am

re: Marginal Inscriptions

A previous poster said "Perhaps you can give some examples. At this moment I have no idea what you mean. Can these be found on any classic stamp, or only on stamps from specific countries?"

I guess there are collectors out there in stamp collecting world who do not know what these are. Hard to believe this, but it must be true.

So better to include everything, than to leave anything out.

I know my hand drawing probably did not help, but it was the best I could do at the time.

1898

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04 Aug 2023
12:52:11pm

re: Marginal Inscriptions

I collect marginal markings on all Costa Rica stamps, all Netherlands Indies / Indonesia stamps, all US airmail stamps, and all US stamps 1976-2000 (13-cent to 33-cent era).

I found (and have in my collection) the discovery example of the Scott USA 1592 10-cent Americana plate block (plate number 37246) on dull gum.

I am am member of the American Plate Number Single Society (APNSS) www.apnss.org.

David Giles
Ottawa, Ont. Canada

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