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General Philatelic/Identify This? : I Give Up!

 

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mbo1142
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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

18 May 2023
09:27:58am
Any ideas?


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18 May 2023
09:32:38am

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Great Britain training stamp, or whatever the official name is.

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18 May 2023
09:33:45am
re: I Give Up!

Looks like it's from a childrens toy post office set/game. Vague memories of seeing this before.

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18 May 2023
09:39:23am
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GB Post Office Training Stamp, Machin issue

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18 May 2023
09:42:13am

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

18 May 2023
09:57:46am
re: I Give Up!

Many thanks for the always helpful SOR members.

So, according to all info, a stamp from the decimalisation series of Great Britain. A cinderella that will go with all the other cinderellas.

Appereciate the help.

Mel

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18 May 2023
02:19:21pm
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This is one of a set of 5 initial colours to match the new (1971) decimal Machins. Used by the Post Office to train counter staff.
Other values were 2p, 2½p, 3½p and 4p.


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1898

18 May 2023
05:44:27pm
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Scan and show the reverse side.

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

18 May 2023
06:20:45pm
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Reverse side as requested.


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1898

18 May 2023
08:00:27pm
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Thanks!

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19 May 2023
09:43:17am
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1898: Just curious: why did you ask for a scan of the reverse side? Were you expecting to see something there?

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1898

19 May 2023
12:48:37pm
re: I Give Up!

Yes

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!

19 May 2023
02:15:15pm
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"Yes"


I'm just curious! Is it stuff like colored thread and stuff like that that you're expecting to see? What exactly could be there? I'm interested so I can start looking as well.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..

19 May 2023
02:29:24pm
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Just about all major printers and agencies produce examples of their planned issues, some quite speculative, and some for some official purpose. While "Cinderellas" may be a convenient catch-all phrase, training stamps are official non- denominative issues and an interesting segment of a well researched series collection.
What is sometimes quite interesting is when some clever devil, or totally vacuous fool, manages to get a training stamp passed and cancelled, in the regular mail.
Previously, RM ordered both Machins and Wildings with one or two broad facial bars in various combinations to be used at training facilities. ( George Vs and George VIs ??? ). Tyro's often assumed that they had found some previously unrecorded, and obviously rare, examples of the "phosphor bars that had been tested in the Southampton area ( UK, not L.I., N.Y.) during the late 1950s.
I admit some puzzlement at that time, but using the Stanley Gibbons Specialized that I had bought at the closing of the Stamp show in the Big Apple. The dealer was packing up, and glad to lighten his load. I've managed to acquire some last minute bargains that way.



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1898

19 May 2023
06:26:43pm
re: I Give Up!

@Harvey: No

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19 May 2023
10:07:15pm
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1898 - I really want to know what you are looking for on the backs of stamps. When I turn a stamp over I see gum residue, hinge remnants, occasionally threads in the paper, pencil marks or writing, sometimes offset printing, sometimes inclusions or thins, etc. What else could I be looking for? I have a stamp printed on the gum side. I have a couple stamps with complete off set mirror images on the back. I know the backs are often very important but what else should I be looking for? This is a serious question so please give me an answer! I apologize that this is off topic from the original post.

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1898

19 May 2023
10:47:10pm
re: I Give Up!

@Harvey

No need to answer, as you have already did!

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20 May 2023
01:55:21am
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Below is an example of the training stamps that managed to get through the mail. The cover was sent to me by Glenn Morgan, co-author of British Stamp Exhibitions and an expert on Dummy stamps.
These Post Office Training stamps were printed by Harrison & Sons, the colours and values matching the issued Machins.

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The full set of 5.

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Londonbus1

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Al
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21 May 2023
05:51:48am
re: I Give Up!

Maybe they need to train them on how to cancel nicely.

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
18 May 2023
09:27:58am

Any ideas?


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18 May 2023
09:32:38am

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re: I Give Up!

Great Britain training stamp, or whatever the official name is.

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18 May 2023
09:33:45am

re: I Give Up!

Looks like it's from a childrens toy post office set/game. Vague memories of seeing this before.

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DaveSheridan

18 May 2023
09:39:23am

re: I Give Up!

GB Post Office Training Stamp, Machin issue

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18 May 2023
09:42:13am

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Training ...

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(Modified by Moderator on 2023-05-18 15:17:05)

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I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
18 May 2023
09:57:46am

re: I Give Up!

Many thanks for the always helpful SOR members.

So, according to all info, a stamp from the decimalisation series of Great Britain. A cinderella that will go with all the other cinderellas.

Appereciate the help.

Mel

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londonbus1

18 May 2023
02:19:21pm

re: I Give Up!

This is one of a set of 5 initial colours to match the new (1971) decimal Machins. Used by the Post Office to train counter staff.
Other values were 2p, 2½p, 3½p and 4p.


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1898

18 May 2023
05:44:27pm

re: I Give Up!

Scan and show the reverse side.

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18 May 2023
06:20:45pm

re: I Give Up!

Reverse side as requested.


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1898

18 May 2023
08:00:27pm

re: I Give Up!

Thanks!

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19 May 2023
09:43:17am

re: I Give Up!

1898: Just curious: why did you ask for a scan of the reverse side? Were you expecting to see something there?

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1898

19 May 2023
12:48:37pm

re: I Give Up!

Yes

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
19 May 2023
02:15:15pm

re: I Give Up!

"Yes"


I'm just curious! Is it stuff like colored thread and stuff like that that you're expecting to see? What exactly could be there? I'm interested so I can start looking as well.
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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"

Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
19 May 2023
02:29:24pm

re: I Give Up!

Just about all major printers and agencies produce examples of their planned issues, some quite speculative, and some for some official purpose. While "Cinderellas" may be a convenient catch-all phrase, training stamps are official non- denominative issues and an interesting segment of a well researched series collection.
What is sometimes quite interesting is when some clever devil, or totally vacuous fool, manages to get a training stamp passed and cancelled, in the regular mail.
Previously, RM ordered both Machins and Wildings with one or two broad facial bars in various combinations to be used at training facilities. ( George Vs and George VIs ??? ). Tyro's often assumed that they had found some previously unrecorded, and obviously rare, examples of the "phosphor bars that had been tested in the Southampton area ( UK, not L.I., N.Y.) during the late 1950s.
I admit some puzzlement at that time, but using the Stanley Gibbons Specialized that I had bought at the closing of the Stamp show in the Big Apple. The dealer was packing up, and glad to lighten his load. I've managed to acquire some last minute bargains that way.



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1898

19 May 2023
06:26:43pm

re: I Give Up!

@Harvey: No

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
19 May 2023
10:07:15pm

re: I Give Up!

1898 - I really want to know what you are looking for on the backs of stamps. When I turn a stamp over I see gum residue, hinge remnants, occasionally threads in the paper, pencil marks or writing, sometimes offset printing, sometimes inclusions or thins, etc. What else could I be looking for? I have a stamp printed on the gum side. I have a couple stamps with complete off set mirror images on the back. I know the backs are often very important but what else should I be looking for? This is a serious question so please give me an answer! I apologize that this is off topic from the original post.

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
1898

19 May 2023
10:47:10pm

re: I Give Up!

@Harvey

No need to answer, as you have already did!

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londonbus1

20 May 2023
01:55:21am

re: I Give Up!

Below is an example of the training stamps that managed to get through the mail. The cover was sent to me by Glenn Morgan, co-author of British Stamp Exhibitions and an expert on Dummy stamps.
These Post Office Training stamps were printed by Harrison & Sons, the colours and values matching the issued Machins.

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The full set of 5.

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Londonbus1

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Al
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21 May 2023
05:51:48am

re: I Give Up!

Maybe they need to train them on how to cancel nicely.

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