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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

 

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michael78651

07 Apr 2023
12:41:21pm
Europe sure wants to collect taxes.

The European Union has new postal regulations that require ALL parcels sent to a member nation to have a customs declaration form that lists out each individual item contained in the parcel, and the individual value for each item. You also have to provide the Harmonized System (HS) tariff codes for each item.

I highlighted "European Union" so there is no mistake from where this regulation comes.

I was in the post office last week, and heard a clerk tell a customer about this. The clerks have to manually enter all the information into the electronic customs form. Make sure you have a list to help the clerk and speed up the process.

The penalty for not providing an itemized customs declaration? The receiving country will either return the parcel to the sender, or dispose of it. It is at the discretion of the receiving country.

Another reason for not shipping internationally.
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michael78651

07 Apr 2023
12:54:10pm
re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

See the March 22, 2023 issue of Linn's for more information.

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07 Apr 2023
01:02:18pm

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As far as I know we have been obliged to do this for a number of years when we want to send parcels to the USA and recently other countries followed in their tracks. Since early this year it is necessary for packets to and from Brazil as well.

If memory serves me well it was a protectionist measure taken during the China - USA trade war, in order to prevent Chinese companies to send their products cheaply across the globe.

Simultaneously the rates have exploded.

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Brechinite

07 Apr 2023
02:19:54pm

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re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

Please Note.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are NOT members of the European Union.

However any Large Letter and above must have a customs form.

Royal Mail definitions are:-

Letters not exceeding
Length:- 24cm
Width :- 16.5cm
Thickness up to and including 0.5cm
Weight :- up to 100 grammes

Large Letters not exceeding:
Length:-..........35.3cm
Width:-...........25cm
Thickness up to and including 2.5cm
Weight Limit:-...750 grammes

Any item above Large Letter is classified as a parcel

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michael78651

07 Apr 2023
04:04:37pm
re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

That's true, Ian, but now instead of stating on the customs form, "various men's clothing", for example, the sender has to itemized the clothing, each piece's value, and the associated tariff code.

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07 Apr 2023
04:21:19pm

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I assumed, perhaps falsely, that HS tariff codes only apply to businesses who export goods. Individuals do not need to fill them in if they occassionally send a packet abroad. But like I wrote, I might be wrong. I do not send packages that much, at least not outside the EU, so things may have changed. Sending things overseas is so f***ing expensive, it is not worth the effort. Who in their right mind would be willing to pay 20 euros shipping to get a 1 kilo package from Europe to the USA?

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Brechinite

07 Apr 2023
06:04:55pm

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"the sender has to itemized the clothing, each piece's value, and the associated tariff code."



I have said this previously, buy and sell a little and often.

I know that different countries have different rules, thankfully the UK is not in the EU or part of the USA.
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07 Apr 2023
06:20:50pm

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I suppose it all depends on one's location. From our point of view, it is very easy to send packages all across Europe. No forms or customs things to take care of whatsoever, let alone nasty tax surprises. Sending things to the UK is another story though. Well, as long as you are happy with it, my opinion does not matter, does it?

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07 Apr 2023
07:08:29pm
re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

Would this mean that if you sent a parcel of stamps, each one would have to be identified and manually entered in the Post office system, I can see that causing quite a queue at the counter.
Anybody like to spend a few hours listing a horde of a few thousand stamps and taking the list in and seeing the reaction?

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08 Apr 2023
06:11:25pm

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Anything i mail to Canada or Europe is usually an ounce or an ounce and a half..first class mail. How the new rule is going to effect the world economy i don't know...my barber told me his price went up $7.00 AFTER he cut my hair.

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08 Apr 2023
06:24:09pm
re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

"my barber told me his price went up $7.00 AFTER he cut my hair."


That price seems really good to me!! But I haven't had a hair cut in about 20 years, I wonder how much money I have saved and how much of it went on stamps! I know this is off topic, please don't cut it for a little while!


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michael78651

07 Apr 2023
12:41:21pm

Europe sure wants to collect taxes.

The European Union has new postal regulations that require ALL parcels sent to a member nation to have a customs declaration form that lists out each individual item contained in the parcel, and the individual value for each item. You also have to provide the Harmonized System (HS) tariff codes for each item.

I highlighted "European Union" so there is no mistake from where this regulation comes.

I was in the post office last week, and heard a clerk tell a customer about this. The clerks have to manually enter all the information into the electronic customs form. Make sure you have a list to help the clerk and speed up the process.

The penalty for not providing an itemized customs declaration? The receiving country will either return the parcel to the sender, or dispose of it. It is at the discretion of the receiving country.

Another reason for not shipping internationally.

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michael78651

07 Apr 2023
12:54:10pm

re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

See the March 22, 2023 issue of Linn's for more information.

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Jansimon

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07 Apr 2023
01:02:18pm

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re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

As far as I know we have been obliged to do this for a number of years when we want to send parcels to the USA and recently other countries followed in their tracks. Since early this year it is necessary for packets to and from Brazil as well.

If memory serves me well it was a protectionist measure taken during the China - USA trade war, in order to prevent Chinese companies to send their products cheaply across the globe.

Simultaneously the rates have exploded.

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Brechinite

07 Apr 2023
02:19:54pm

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re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

Please Note.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland are NOT members of the European Union.

However any Large Letter and above must have a customs form.

Royal Mail definitions are:-

Letters not exceeding
Length:- 24cm
Width :- 16.5cm
Thickness up to and including 0.5cm
Weight :- up to 100 grammes

Large Letters not exceeding:
Length:-..........35.3cm
Width:-...........25cm
Thickness up to and including 2.5cm
Weight Limit:-...750 grammes

Any item above Large Letter is classified as a parcel

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michael78651

07 Apr 2023
04:04:37pm

re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

That's true, Ian, but now instead of stating on the customs form, "various men's clothing", for example, the sender has to itemized the clothing, each piece's value, and the associated tariff code.

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07 Apr 2023
04:21:19pm

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re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

I assumed, perhaps falsely, that HS tariff codes only apply to businesses who export goods. Individuals do not need to fill them in if they occassionally send a packet abroad. But like I wrote, I might be wrong. I do not send packages that much, at least not outside the EU, so things may have changed. Sending things overseas is so f***ing expensive, it is not worth the effort. Who in their right mind would be willing to pay 20 euros shipping to get a 1 kilo package from Europe to the USA?

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Brechinite

07 Apr 2023
06:04:55pm

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re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

"the sender has to itemized the clothing, each piece's value, and the associated tariff code."



I have said this previously, buy and sell a little and often.

I know that different countries have different rules, thankfully the UK is not in the EU or part of the USA.
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07 Apr 2023
06:20:50pm

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re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

I suppose it all depends on one's location. From our point of view, it is very easy to send packages all across Europe. No forms or customs things to take care of whatsoever, let alone nasty tax surprises. Sending things to the UK is another story though. Well, as long as you are happy with it, my opinion does not matter, does it?

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sheepshanks

07 Apr 2023
07:08:29pm

re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

Would this mean that if you sent a parcel of stamps, each one would have to be identified and manually entered in the Post office system, I can see that causing quite a queue at the counter.
Anybody like to spend a few hours listing a horde of a few thousand stamps and taking the list in and seeing the reaction?

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philb

08 Apr 2023
06:11:25pm

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re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

Anything i mail to Canada or Europe is usually an ounce or an ounce and a half..first class mail. How the new rule is going to effect the world economy i don't know...my barber told me his price went up $7.00 AFTER he cut my hair.

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"And every hair is measured like every grain of sand"

This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
08 Apr 2023
06:24:09pm

re: New Rules Regarding Mailing Parcels to European Union Countries

"my barber told me his price went up $7.00 AFTER he cut my hair."


That price seems really good to me!! But I haven't had a hair cut in about 20 years, I wonder how much money I have saved and how much of it went on stamps! I know this is off topic, please don't cut it for a little while!


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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
        

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