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The one on the left is on thin paper, so believe from some sort of wrapper.
The one on the right has Postes at top, but cannot find anyplace. Black dots are not holes, part of the cancellation.
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One on left is a wrapper from France.
Stamp on right is Belgium Scott #19
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02:18:20pm
I thought GB was the only country "allowed" to issue stamps without the country name! I see nothing on the Belgium stamp!
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If I remember correctly, the old rules are that if the ruling head of state is on the stamp, it is not necessary to spell out the country name. the UK is about the only country that still uses this.
For a long time there were no fixed rules for international mail, so there was no obligation to have the country name on a stamp. Most stamps were used within the country anyway.
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Thanks Michael,
I thought the first one was a wrapper, but was not sure. I lived in Belgium for 5 years, you would have thought that I could have figured the second one out. Lower part of Belgium where French is spoken as apposed to the upper part where Flemish is the major language.
I lived in Mons, close to the French border.
Regarding country name on stamp, something else I will have to research.
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Hi Jansimon,
I believe this stamp design was introduced before the UPU and its rule on naming the country on stamps.
Here's the UPU text with the rule in paragraph 3.1 with the exception granted to the UK in a footnote:
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If the Belgium or French stamp was only used inside Belgium or France they wouldn't come under the UPU rules so no country name is needed. For GB stamps of course Britain both rules the waves and waves the rules although in case it could be making the rules in the early days of international post.
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Believe both stamps are French, but cannot find after long search.
The one on the left is on thin paper, so believe from some sort of wrapper.
The one on the right has Postes at top, but cannot find anyplace. Black dots are not holes, part of the cancellation.
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02:02:34pm
re: Believe France. Help
One on left is a wrapper from France.
Stamp on right is Belgium Scott #19
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re: Believe France. Help
I thought GB was the only country "allowed" to issue stamps without the country name! I see nothing on the Belgium stamp!
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re: Believe France. Help
If I remember correctly, the old rules are that if the ruling head of state is on the stamp, it is not necessary to spell out the country name. the UK is about the only country that still uses this.
For a long time there were no fixed rules for international mail, so there was no obligation to have the country name on a stamp. Most stamps were used within the country anyway.
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re: Believe France. Help
Thanks Michael,
I thought the first one was a wrapper, but was not sure. I lived in Belgium for 5 years, you would have thought that I could have figured the second one out. Lower part of Belgium where French is spoken as apposed to the upper part where Flemish is the major language.
I lived in Mons, close to the French border.
Regarding country name on stamp, something else I will have to research.
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re: Believe France. Help
Hi Jansimon,
I believe this stamp design was introduced before the UPU and its rule on naming the country on stamps.
Here's the UPU text with the rule in paragraph 3.1 with the exception granted to the UK in a footnote:
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re: Believe France. Help
If the Belgium or French stamp was only used inside Belgium or France they wouldn't come under the UPU rules so no country name is needed. For GB stamps of course Britain both rules the waves and waves the rules although in case it could be making the rules in the early days of international post.
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