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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

 

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cougar
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16 Apr 2022
02:23:59am
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16 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

The blocks of six are selling on eBay for quite a bit more than face. I ordered a few blocks of the domestic and international stamp directly from the Ukraine post office. It took a while for the website to locate the stamps and process the order - I suspect the Russians are blocking the post office server from working effectively. After a few hours of continually refreshing the order page, the order eventually went through. I suspect these will prove to be interesting collector's items in time given the bravery of the individuals concerned and the fact that the warship depicted was the one that sank a few days ago!

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16 Apr 2022
11:22:13am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

"I suspect the Russians are blocking the post office server from working effectively."



Lets hope your order ships before the print house is destroyed by Russian missiles.
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JoeLo

16 Apr 2022
07:02:53pm
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

This has the flavor of a scam. Let's hope your order actually went to someone with this stamp. Let us know if you get it.

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17 Apr 2022
06:54:28am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

No.

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17 Apr 2022
08:14:50am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

FWIW, I hope this is a scam. If member countries of the UPU can issue stamps with someone flipping the bird, what have we come to??

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michael78651

17 Apr 2022
08:52:20am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

"what have we come to?"



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17 Apr 2022
09:21:01am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

" If member countries of the UPU can issue stamps with someone flipping the bird, what have we come to??"




if only that were the worst that is happening
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17 Apr 2022
09:22:16am

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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

The answer to your original question is No.

If it is a scam then they are producing Mugs, T-Shirts, Flags and all the other "collectible" areas with the same image and wording.

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joesm

17 Apr 2022
09:36:01pm
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

I hope. I want one if it is real. Let's hope Putin gets his axx handed to him!

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18 Apr 2022
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If they're real, I wouldn't mind having one myself. I'll have to check my budget and see what happens



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19 Apr 2022
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I saw it being offered on the local selling site Marktplaats (somewhat like Craig's list) and the price had gone up to 35 euros for just one stamp. Somehow I doubted if the seller really has the stamp, because the photo with the add was just the picture that all the news sites show, not a stamp lying on a desk or anything that may lead to the assumption the person is not a fraud...

Edit: just saw a couple of sellers offering a sheet of 6 with "W" denomination and these go from 150 to 250 euros (actual bids). But again, no guarantee the seller actually has it or that the bids are not shill bids.

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19 Apr 2022
04:43:39pm
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

i would not pay a premium for one...whats to stop them from flooding the market with them ?

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19 Apr 2022
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I think it is wise to wait some time, 6 months, a year? And see if it holds its value once the hype is gone. Probably not, unless they printed only a small amount.

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19 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

There is an article in today's Guardian, the English newspaper.

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cougar
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19 Apr 2022
11:21:21pm
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

150 Euro ? If this is the price I have to pay I will be flipping a finger too.

Do they use these stamp to mail letters to Russia, I wonder, if they ever cared whether the letters will be delivered.

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Al
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20 Apr 2022
05:41:27am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

I wonder when the question "Do you think this stamp will become really valuable" was first asked in the hobby?

1840 or so?

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20 Apr 2022
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I'd like to get one Postally Used.

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20 Apr 2022
02:19:31pm
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

One of my daughter’s best friends from Uni moved to Canada from Ukraine in 2015. She has gotten me quite a few stamps through her relatives still there.

I asked a couple days ago if she could get me some of these new ones and she just replied that none of her relatives had even heard of the stamp.

So …

I’ll stay on top of it and let you know if I hear anything different.

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20 Apr 2022
08:28:59pm
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

"If member countries of the UPU can issue stamps with someone flipping the bird, what have we come to??"



This point certainly is valid; in a general way, stamp subjects should be meaningful and should not give undue offense. But this stamp marks an event of national significance to the issuing country. If the USPS can issue ten Star Wars droids, Ukraine should be able to use its stamps to troll the UPU country that's violating its sovereignty and murdering its citizens.
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21 Apr 2022
04:31:47am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

It is becoming a hype. People going crazy. Everyone wants a copy. Prices going up.

From the dictionary :
HYPE : a situation in which something is advertised and discussed in newspapers, on television, etc. a lot in order to attract everyone's interest.

I saw this FDC cover on eBay, price 1500 euro's Thumbs Down I Don't Want To See

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Al
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21 Apr 2022
05:52:30am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

I would rather see semi-postals to raise money instead of these types of issues.

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21 Apr 2022
08:47:37pm
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

Just read this on Twitter.
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This stamp has been making all sorts of headlines in the philatelic and non-philatelic world.

It was only a matter of time before we saw it top the @StampIndex
daily top @eBay
sales.
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Sold on April 20th, 2022 for US $6,900 (80 Bids)

FDC cover Ukraine 2022 Russian warship go f++k yourself Hero's autograph war 3

By @eBay Seller: hmaraboss777 (2225)https://www.ebay.com/itm/265641973695? ... 57


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22 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

Hockeynut wrote "ridiculous".
It depends, we are all collectors who want to collect. Isn't paying a few 100 quid for a good penny black less ridiculous, or millions for a Swedish stamp that is orange instead of the intended colour?

You are not going to pay 1500 for that FDC and neither will I. Still, some people think it is worth that much. Well, good for them. If it makes them happy or if they think they can make a profit...

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23 Apr 2022
12:10:14am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

Very interesting.

If you look very carefully,
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distant cloudbank,
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Hyped indeed.

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23 Apr 2022
08:00:46pm
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

People, you're all overlooking the potential here. We all bemoan the fact that interest in stamps is declining, but here's a way to rejuvenate it. Countries around the world could issue stamps like this. Cuba flipping the bird at the US, South Korea at North Korea, Iran at Saudi Arabia, Taiwan at China, and on and on. Issuing these stamps might take the place of shooting at each other. And it will stimulate interest in philately to boot!

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26 Apr 2022
10:43:45am
re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

I have serious doubts that any non-collector will have his interest aroused by this stamp enough to take up the hobby. I have yet to hear of anybody who became a collector after responding to a “Face On Mars” sales ad - and those ads were ubiquitous, particularly in Parade magazine and other newspaper Sunday supplements.

Or a more recent example. How many converts to philately do you think are remaining, of those who bought the Austria Brexit stamp 2 years ago?

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16 Apr 2022
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16 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

The blocks of six are selling on eBay for quite a bit more than face. I ordered a few blocks of the domestic and international stamp directly from the Ukraine post office. It took a while for the website to locate the stamps and process the order - I suspect the Russians are blocking the post office server from working effectively. After a few hours of continually refreshing the order page, the order eventually went through. I suspect these will prove to be interesting collector's items in time given the bravery of the individuals concerned and the fact that the warship depicted was the one that sank a few days ago!

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cougar

16 Apr 2022
11:22:13am

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"I suspect the Russians are blocking the post office server from working effectively."



Lets hope your order ships before the print house is destroyed by Russian missiles.
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JoeLo

16 Apr 2022
07:02:53pm

re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

This has the flavor of a scam. Let's hope your order actually went to someone with this stamp. Let us know if you get it.

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17 Apr 2022
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No.

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17 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

FWIW, I hope this is a scam. If member countries of the UPU can issue stamps with someone flipping the bird, what have we come to??

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17 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

"what have we come to?"



A new topical area to collect?
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17 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

" If member countries of the UPU can issue stamps with someone flipping the bird, what have we come to??"




if only that were the worst that is happening
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17 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

The answer to your original question is No.

If it is a scam then they are producing Mugs, T-Shirts, Flags and all the other "collectible" areas with the same image and wording.

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joesm

17 Apr 2022
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I hope. I want one if it is real. Let's hope Putin gets his axx handed to him!

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18 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

If they're real, I wouldn't mind having one myself. I'll have to check my budget and see what happens



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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

I saw it being offered on the local selling site Marktplaats (somewhat like Craig's list) and the price had gone up to 35 euros for just one stamp. Somehow I doubted if the seller really has the stamp, because the photo with the add was just the picture that all the news sites show, not a stamp lying on a desk or anything that may lead to the assumption the person is not a fraud...

Edit: just saw a couple of sellers offering a sheet of 6 with "W" denomination and these go from 150 to 250 euros (actual bids). But again, no guarantee the seller actually has it or that the bids are not shill bids.

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19 Apr 2022
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i would not pay a premium for one...whats to stop them from flooding the market with them ?

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I think it is wise to wait some time, 6 months, a year? And see if it holds its value once the hype is gone. Probably not, unless they printed only a small amount.

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19 Apr 2022
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19 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

150 Euro ? If this is the price I have to pay I will be flipping a finger too.

Do they use these stamp to mail letters to Russia, I wonder, if they ever cared whether the letters will be delivered.

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20 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

I wonder when the question "Do you think this stamp will become really valuable" was first asked in the hobby?

1840 or so?

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I'd like to get one Postally Used.

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20 Apr 2022
02:19:31pm

re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

One of my daughter’s best friends from Uni moved to Canada from Ukraine in 2015. She has gotten me quite a few stamps through her relatives still there.

I asked a couple days ago if she could get me some of these new ones and she just replied that none of her relatives had even heard of the stamp.

So …

I’ll stay on top of it and let you know if I hear anything different.

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20 Apr 2022
08:28:59pm

re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

"If member countries of the UPU can issue stamps with someone flipping the bird, what have we come to??"



This point certainly is valid; in a general way, stamp subjects should be meaningful and should not give undue offense. But this stamp marks an event of national significance to the issuing country. If the USPS can issue ten Star Wars droids, Ukraine should be able to use its stamps to troll the UPU country that's violating its sovereignty and murdering its citizens.
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21 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

It is becoming a hype. People going crazy. Everyone wants a copy. Prices going up.

From the dictionary :
HYPE : a situation in which something is advertised and discussed in newspapers, on television, etc. a lot in order to attract everyone's interest.

I saw this FDC cover on eBay, price 1500 euro's Thumbs Down I Don't Want To See

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21 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

I would rather see semi-postals to raise money instead of these types of issues.

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21 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

Just read this on Twitter.
Michael Cortese
@MichaelJCort
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This stamp has been making all sorts of headlines in the philatelic and non-philatelic world.

It was only a matter of time before we saw it top the @StampIndex
daily top @eBay
sales.
Quote Tweet
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Sold on April 20th, 2022 for US $6,900 (80 Bids)

FDC cover Ukraine 2022 Russian warship go f++k yourself Hero's autograph war 3

By @eBay Seller: hmaraboss777 (2225)https://www.ebay.com/itm/265641973695? ... 57


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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

Hockeynut wrote "ridiculous".
It depends, we are all collectors who want to collect. Isn't paying a few 100 quid for a good penny black less ridiculous, or millions for a Swedish stamp that is orange instead of the intended colour?

You are not going to pay 1500 for that FDC and neither will I. Still, some people think it is worth that much. Well, good for them. If it makes them happy or if they think they can make a profit...

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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

Very interesting.

If you look very carefully,
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Hyped indeed.

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23 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

People, you're all overlooking the potential here. We all bemoan the fact that interest in stamps is declining, but here's a way to rejuvenate it. Countries around the world could issue stamps like this. Cuba flipping the bird at the US, South Korea at North Korea, Iran at Saudi Arabia, Taiwan at China, and on and on. Issuing these stamps might take the place of shooting at each other. And it will stimulate interest in philately to boot!

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26 Apr 2022
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re: Do you think this stamp will become really valuable?

I have serious doubts that any non-collector will have his interest aroused by this stamp enough to take up the hobby. I have yet to hear of anybody who became a collector after responding to a “Face On Mars” sales ad - and those ads were ubiquitous, particularly in Parade magazine and other newspaper Sunday supplements.

Or a more recent example. How many converts to philately do you think are remaining, of those who bought the Austria Brexit stamp 2 years ago?

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