Here's an alleged Scott #6:


Fake/forgery, or genuine?

To me, the overprint looks faked. By comparison to the image in Scott, on this stamp, the foot on the Y is too long, and the horizontal bar in the 1/4 fraction is too fat. Also, the numerals in the fraction don't look right. I think, typically, for genuine overprints, the overall height of the fraction is greater than the height of the Y. On this stamp, the height of the fraction is about the same as the height of the Y.

Could not find any images on the internet to compare.

Any help?

Thanks,
-Paul

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re: Early Cuba Overprints II - fake or genuine?

It does look like a 15 compared to the scott's picture . Someone here http://www.cubapsa.com/ might offer an opinion and they have an email on the contact page.

Hoping you're gonna post it in the auction

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Harvey

re: Early Cuba Overprints II - fake or genuine?

I supposedly have a copy of Cuba #15. I compared mine to the one shown and the major difference is the quality of the overprint. No offence, but the overprint on mine appears to have much more distinct lines. My camera has not been in working order for quite a while but I'm having lunch with a friend on Sunday evening who has a much better system than me. So with any luck I can add an image to this post at that time. In my experience the real items usually have a better overprint, but this might not always be true. I have five of the Puerto Principe series (Cuba #176 - #220) and the only one I'm happy with is the one I bought privately from one of the sellers here a few months ago. The other four I got from a local dealer at a much reduced price. All the early Cuba overprints, in my opinion, are very suspect!!

Edit: Tried to add a picture of my copy of #15 only to be told it was "too large". It really doesn't matter since I'm pretty convinced mine is fine because of where I picked it up. Better luck next time, I guess!

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re: Early Cuba Overprints II - fake or genuine?

Thanks, Rrr,

That's a great perspective.

Without knowing what the experts' opinions were on your stamps, I would have judged 3 of them fakes. The one at upper right is the most 'dangerous'.

The one at lower right looks like it was done by the same person who faked the one I posted ...complete with wavy pen cancel! BTW, that stamp is currently up on eBay, auction ends later today. Last time I looked it was at $20 with 11 watchers. I will sometimes pay $5 for a fake just to have as a reference, but that's about my limit...

Speaking of fake vs genuine, I just received this beauty, yesterday:

It was accompanied by a 2021 Venezuelan Experto Filatelico certificate, with the judgement "ES LEGITIMO"

The design of this 1889 Coro y La Vela private stamp is not particularly attractive, but I wanted to add it to my Caribbean collection for completeness...Apparently, these stamps were pre-cancelled - that is the inverted handstamp on this stamp, which reads:
Anotada
CORREO DEL
KOMERCIO

In use, these stamps received no additional cancellation.

-Paul

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rtvstamps

14 Feb 2022
09:22:55pm

re: Early Cuba Overprints II - fake or genuine?

Here are two specimens are typical of genuine "I Griega" stamps. (thin and thick overprints)



More in this special article at:

http://www.somestamps.com/pages-articles/049-064/article051-200501-cuba-i-griega-summary.htm

Regads!
Rodolfo

 
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