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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Karl Hennig complete stamp collection

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Jimmyrayparker
10 Jan 2022
12:26:59pm
I need someone to advise me as to what to do with this collection that I am certain has not only a cash value but also a historical value. So please advise A.S.A.P
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dani20
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10 Jan 2022
12:55:55pm
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You're asking the right questions, to the right knowledgeable group. Perhaps your next posting ought to describe the collection, how you came to your estimates as to history and value, and what your goals might be. At this point your only stated goal would appear to see it as a possible monetary source- am I missing other goals you might have?
Dan

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StampCollector
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10 Jan 2022
01:48:28pm
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I'm curious about the meaning of "complete"

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d1stamper
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10 Jan 2022
01:53:23pm

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Who is Karl Hennig? Post some pictures of the collection.

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Calstamp
10 Jan 2022
01:58:27pm
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Stamp dealer during German Weimar period.

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Bobstamp
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10 Jan 2022
03:17:30pm
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Henning was a notorious philatelic faker who created historically improbable and impossible covers, such as German "feldpost" covers posted from the Channel Islands, franked with German stamps with fake cancellations. His covers are normally in good, even pristine condition because they never went through the mail stream.

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dani20
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10 Jan 2022
04:06:52pm
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Interesting info Bob. Any idea of the price range for covers from Henning?
Dan

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philb
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10 Jan 2022
04:22:57pm

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Mr. Parker should get the collection appraised from a reputable stamp dealer...there will be a charge for the appraisal unless the dealer purchases the collection. How else could he get a fair evaluation ?

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10 Jan 2022
06:30:23pm

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Bob is right, Hennig had a huge network of agents stationed all over (occupied) Europe creating all kinds of curious covers for him. He knew that these would sell and they still do, despite many Germany collectors know what they are and avoid them. There is also a large group of collectors that buys anything with a swastika (just telling it as it is).

As an illustration, here is one of these unusual, unlikely covers that I got with a bunch of German covers and postcards.

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Why would military mail sent from the Netherlands be franked with German stamps? And airmail from Amsterdam to Hamburg in 1944?
There are those who claim mail from the Luftgaupostamt is genuine, but there is no real evidence for it, at least not as far as I know.

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Jansimon
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10 Jan 2022
06:34:30pm

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By the way, I am very curious about the "complete" part of the collection. How can it ever be complete? Is there a list of everything that is considered a Hennig cover?

Jan-Simon

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philb
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10 Jan 2022
06:58:05pm

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Jan-Simon, its interesting that the Nazis in the Netherlands used semi postal stamps..yes that one is pretty obvious.

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11 Jan 2022
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Phil, that's a good observation! Makes it even more unlikely

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13 Jan 2022
05:55:29am
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"Karl Hennig complete stamp collection"



I doubt it that you have a complete collection.

Karl Hennig was a stamp dealer in Germany and later on in South America.


Look at the following post(s) earlier about Karl Hennig

https://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=26243#185828


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13 Jan 2022
06:11:15am
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Original poster joined and posted on Jan 10th. He has not accessed the site since then. He used the nickname "Flipper". Wonder if he will be back.

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HockeyNut
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13 Jan 2022
06:49:47am
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@ JanSimon

DEUTSCHE DIENSTPOST
The Dienstpost was run by German postal officials and dealt with all post which did not come under the military Field Post system in the occupied areas. Normally the Dienstpost was for German civilians who worked in German occupied countries, although soldiers could use it as well. Sometimes the Dienstpost office would be in the same building as the FELDPOST, and in some cases even on the same postal counter.

The reason for "Dienstpost" in World War Two was for a secure way to get post to Germany (or to another country under German control ), unlike the local postal service which ran the risk of being intercepted and opened by partisan bands. Infact in many areas, local people in occupied countries were forbidden to use the Dienstpost system, it being reserved for German Nationals, or foreigners in German service. Dienstpost could use all German stamps, and can only be identified by the Dienstpost cancellation.

Karl Hennig abused the system but adhered to the conditions that were set.
So : use of German stamps, blue cross on the letter etc.
Karl Hennig's intention was to later sell all these "postal items" at a high price to all kinds of stamp collectors.

But if I am not mistaken I already posted those in the link I posted before.

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HockeyNut
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13 Jan 2022
06:57:27am
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"Interesting info Bob. Any idea of the price range for covers from Henning?
Dan"



Just what someone would give, I think.

I have seen prices from 1 up to 50 euros.

And as I stated in the older posts : You like it or you do not like it.......Hennig covers
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13 Jan 2022
08:54:51am
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so, restating the obvious

collecting Hennings is collecting fantasy covers; they served only to amuse, or enrich, Henning. It's rather like collecting ACE covers (except they actually went through the mail). And, just so it's clear, I have some ACE covers I treasure in my collection because they carried seals

David

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HockeyNut
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13 Jan 2022
09:47:18am
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"so, restating the obvious

collecting Hennings is collecting fantasy covers; they served only to amuse, or enrich, Henning."



Almost.

There are Karl Hennig covers that actually did go through the postal system.
These covers have to have a cancellation on the back of the cover with a date when it arrived at the city of destination.

Example below is NOT a Karl Hennig cover but gives an idea of what I mean :


Front of cover :
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Back of cover :
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Almost every Karl Hennig cover misses this cancellation on the back......
But when it does, the price is going up.


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