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General Philatelic/Gen. Discussion : Catalogue price variation Between Scott & Gibbons ??

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snowy12
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05 Sep 2021
10:34:36pm

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I was just on eBay and saw a used pair of Netherlands Indies under Japanese Occupation This is Sc# N31 10sen Carmine this guy is quoting SG price £66.00 for the pair ,scott's is $7.00 for the pair
Mind you SG prices for the used set is £100s Scott's Price is around $40.00.Can someone with some other catalogues check please very curious ???
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Jansimon
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06 Sep 2021
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I will have to check if I have a Michel for Japanese occupation of Netherlands Indies, or perhaps Sakura (but my copy is almost 20 years old...) It is a fact that SG always is at the high end and Scott mostly at the low end of the price range.

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06 Sep 2021
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Brian, I have French Yvert catalogue, if you post the images of the two stamps, we can see what it says.

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06 Sep 2021
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When I first started here I used Gibbons "values" but I discovered that Scotts "values" were on average "lower".

Basically if Gibbons said the value was £10 Scotts said it was $10. If exchange rates were applied the Scotts value should have been $13.80.

Some differences are larger eg Gibbons £110 Scotts $2.50.

I managed to accquire a set of discs for Scotts 2017 which I now use. Unfortunately for some items Scott's only values a complete set rather than the individual stamps within the set (a complete nightmare at times)so I revert to Gibbons but replace their value of say £10 to $10.

With Gibbons Stamp of the World catalogue the value for a particular stamp maybe the most expensive variety rather than the most common. Look at most of the early range of stamps and you will see that the SG numbers are not in order. (Portugal Ceres range is a classical example). This may explain the variation that Snowy12 has come across.

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06 Sep 2021
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Am I correct in thinking that Gibbons sells stamps while Scott doesn't? Could explain the difference if I am.

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Neddie Seagoon from The Telegoons
06 Sep 2021
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Yes Gibbons sells stamps. I do not know if Scotts do.

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06 Sep 2021
09:33:13am

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re: Catalogue price variation Between Scott & Gibbons ??

foudutimbre said Brian, I have French Yvert catalogue, if you post the images of the two stamps, we can see what it says.
Hi
here is the stamp this is mine from the set.
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06 Sep 2021
09:44:52am

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Brechinite said,
I managed to accquire a set of discs for Scotts 2017 which I now use. Unfortunately for some items Scott's only values a complete set rather than the individual stamps within the set (a complete nightmare at times)so I revert to Gibbons but replace their value of say £10 to $10.
I also have a set of discs mine are 2019 and like you I find it very annoying that , Scott's tend to give prices for sets and not individual stamps as sometimes a middle stamp in a set has a higher CV than the rest of the set .
I think I may have to buy in the US and sell in the UK LOL
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06 Sep 2021
10:58:01am
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If I buy against an SG catalogue value, I sell using a percentage of the same SG value. If I buy against Scott, Michel, Sassone, Y&T, Zumstein or any other catalogue, I sell using a percentage of that CV. Of course, that means that I have FAR too many catalogues on my shelves!

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06 Sep 2021
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"I think I may have to buy in the US and sell in the UK"



Just because the catalogue value is higher in the UK doesn't mean to say you will get it.

What's a better deal 10% of £20 or 20% of $20?

"Answers on a postcard please" as they said back in the day.
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06 Sep 2021
02:16:35pm

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Brian, I am very confused, I have scrolled the Japanese part & Netherland Antilles on standard Yvert catalogue without success to find the stamp and have indication. I also checked on colconect without success, may be it is on specialized catalogue. Apologies to cannot help. I Don't Want To SeeI Don't Want To SeeI Don't Want To See

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06 Sep 2021
03:00:22pm
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"Of course, that means that I have FAR too many
catalogues on my shelves!..."


You never have too many catalogs or stamps,
for that matter. Girlfriends, especially
wild ones, you can have too many.

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06 Sep 2021
03:30:26pm

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wild ones, you can have too many."



You speak for yourself!!

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06 Sep 2021
04:35:35pm
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"Yes Gibbons sells stamps. I do not know if Scotts do."



Soctt started as a seller (his catalogue was his price list) but the institutional successors long ago abandoned selling stamps.

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06 Sep 2021
04:37:58pm
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""I think I may have to buy in the US and sell in the UK""



ah, memories of Kramer and Newman's road trip from NY, where returnables are a nickle, to Michigan, where they're a dime, all in a postal truck.

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06 Sep 2021
08:04:04pm

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re: Catalogue price variation Between Scott & Gibbons ??

Foudutimbre said Brian, I am verfy confused, I have scrolled the Japanese part & Netherland Antilles on standard Yvert catalogue without success to find the stamp and have indication. I also checked on colconect without success, may be it is on specialized catalogue. Apologies to cannot help. I Don't Want To SeeI Don't Want To SeeI Don't Want To See
It is the Netherlands Indies (Indonesia) thats why you didn't find it ?
Brian

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07 Sep 2021
04:18:26am

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In Michel there is no separate listing for pairs, but this particular stamp was valued at 1 euro unused, 24 euro used in the 2010 edition

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07 Sep 2021
05:21:01am

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Thanks Brian for orientation, herebelow what I found as Japanese occupation following Indonesia (Yvert & Tellier 2015)

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Even the stamp you showing is not on, may these info can help

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07 Sep 2021
09:52:51am

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Hi
They are Japanese overprints ans stamps of Malay.Here isa copy of the Japanese occupation stamps of Indonesia.Image Not Found
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07 Sep 2021
10:01:24am

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Quite a difference compared to Michel!

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08 Sep 2021
11:29:58am
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BTW; Marineverwaltungsbezirk - Navy Administration District


Catalog prices: The prices for unused stamps apply to stamps with a fold.
The prices for
Used brands apply to pieces
with timely
Cancellation.
Cancellations for philatelic purposes can also be used
be cheaper

? Falz = fold ???? Is that right ?

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08 Sep 2021
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falz = hinge

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11 Sep 2021
11:01:05am
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" ... falz = hinge ..."

Of course, I must be getting even blinder than forgetful.
I knew it wasn't right but my brain went blank after that.

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