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A) Vienna
B) Philadelphia
as an example of the stamps i mean :
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I did not even know that there were Philadelphia printings. As far as I know these are the Vienna issues. Well, learning all the time!
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David Giles is an avid Indonesia collector..i will tell him about the post.
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SG doesn't list these issues but it has a note stating that the high values were recess printed in Philadelphia and have an imprint beginning "E.A.WRIGHT".
I don't have any of these to compare with.
I've also seen online examples of the high values without any imprint.
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Here's an example of a stamp with the Wright imprint:
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Selamat Malam:
Quoting from my Katalogue Pranko Indonesia 2009...
"Printed by order of the PTT (now PT Pos Indonesia), the revolutionary stamps of Vienna prints and a part of w(h)ich printed in Philadelphia, have completed some periods of important and principal changes in Indonesia."
Nigel is correct that the way to identify them is by the Wright imprint at the bottom of the stamp. All of the low-value lithographed stamps that I have seen are Vienna printings. I have not seen any evidence of being printed in Philadelphia. The high-values Rp. 5, Rp. 10, and Rp. 25 "Repoeblik" issues do not have the Wright imprint, but the "Republik" high-values (including the one with air mail overprints) do.
The Vienna stamps were used (by evidence of postally used covers) from 1949-1953.
Hope this helps.
David Giles
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I have a very nice Collection of these stamps ! just need about 14 stamps to complete it plus the imperf Blockade sheets,you don't see many of them up for sale though.I have the Dai Nippon catalogue for the Vienna & Philadelphia Printings
Brian
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I "borrowed" these out of my 1949 Scott Modern album...outfits like the Zenith Stamp Co. were just about giving them away as a bonus if you purchased a few approvals.
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Nothing rare here...i have no Phillys...just memories !
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"Hope this helps.
David Giles
Ottawa, Canada"
Thanks David,
That was quite simple
(If you know what and where to look for.....)
Can anyone tell me the time periods of the "REPOEBLIK" and the "REPUBLIK" issues?
Are all the stamps issued in both?
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Brian:
Which revolutionary issues were printed in Philadelphia? Only the high values?
Hockey Nut:
The first stamps with Republik Indonesia were issued 17 August, 1949. The 4th anniversary of the Proklamasi, the proclamation of the Indonesian Republic. All the previous issues read Repoeblik Indonesia.
The Indonesians changed the vowel spellings in their language to be less Dutch and more American.
David
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Thanks again David.
Still interesting....
At this moment i am still reading about this piece of history.
The dutch word for Republic is REPUBLIEK.
I think REPOEBLIK is a transformation of the Dutch language.
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HockeyNut:
The Indonesian Language uses the Roman alphabet like the English Language. It is written as it sounds. The exception, compared to English is the letter C. The letter C is pronounced like "ch" in English. The letter K is pronounced as a hard C is pronounced in English. Thus, a cat in Indonesian is "kucing". It is pronounced koo-ching.
Repoeblik is the "old spelling" as they say in Indonesia. The Indonesians simplified the spelling of their language. OE became U. Thus, Repoeblik became Republik. Sambal Oelek became Sambal Ulek. There are a few other vowels that changed as well.
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Thanks for the explanation David and Brian.
I did not know that of Soekarno, eh Sukarno.
We have learned the old spelling at school in that time.
And that is still in my brain........
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HockeyNut:
Don't feel badly. When I was in Surabaya, I was sending postcards home to Canada and writing the city name as Soerabaja. I was so used to seeing the old spelling in philatelic notes, books, etc.
David
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Whil on holiday in Bali we visited the Freedom Monument.
Bajra Sandhi Monument is a monument to the struggles of the Balinese people throughout history. The monument is located in front of the Bali Governor's Office in Denpasar, Indonesia, on the island of Bali. The monument was built in 1987, inaugurated by president Megawati Sukarnoputri on June 14, 2003.
In side on one of the levels they have Dioramas of the lives of the Indonesian People through the years I took quite a few photos to go with my display.Her are some of them .
View from the top
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Is there anyone here on this forum who can explain me the differences of the indonesian stamps which where printed in :
A) Vienna
B) Philadelphia
as an example of the stamps i mean :
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I did not even know that there were Philadelphia printings. As far as I know these are the Vienna issues. Well, learning all the time!
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David Giles is an avid Indonesia collector..i will tell him about the post.
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SG doesn't list these issues but it has a note stating that the high values were recess printed in Philadelphia and have an imprint beginning "E.A.WRIGHT".
I don't have any of these to compare with.
I've also seen online examples of the high values without any imprint.
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Here's an example of a stamp with the Wright imprint:
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Selamat Malam:
Quoting from my Katalogue Pranko Indonesia 2009...
"Printed by order of the PTT (now PT Pos Indonesia), the revolutionary stamps of Vienna prints and a part of w(h)ich printed in Philadelphia, have completed some periods of important and principal changes in Indonesia."
Nigel is correct that the way to identify them is by the Wright imprint at the bottom of the stamp. All of the low-value lithographed stamps that I have seen are Vienna printings. I have not seen any evidence of being printed in Philadelphia. The high-values Rp. 5, Rp. 10, and Rp. 25 "Repoeblik" issues do not have the Wright imprint, but the "Republik" high-values (including the one with air mail overprints) do.
The Vienna stamps were used (by evidence of postally used covers) from 1949-1953.
Hope this helps.
David Giles
Ottawa, Canada
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I have a very nice Collection of these stamps ! just need about 14 stamps to complete it plus the imperf Blockade sheets,you don't see many of them up for sale though.I have the Dai Nippon catalogue for the Vienna & Philadelphia Printings
Brian
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I "borrowed" these out of my 1949 Scott Modern album...outfits like the Zenith Stamp Co. were just about giving them away as a bonus if you purchased a few approvals.
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re: Differences Vienna / Philadelphia prints of indonesia
Nothing rare here...i have no Phillys...just memories !
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re: Differences Vienna / Philadelphia prints of indonesia
"Hope this helps.
David Giles
Ottawa, Canada"
Thanks David,
That was quite simple
(If you know what and where to look for.....)
Can anyone tell me the time periods of the "REPOEBLIK" and the "REPUBLIK" issues?
Are all the stamps issued in both?
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Brian:
Which revolutionary issues were printed in Philadelphia? Only the high values?
Hockey Nut:
The first stamps with Republik Indonesia were issued 17 August, 1949. The 4th anniversary of the Proklamasi, the proclamation of the Indonesian Republic. All the previous issues read Repoeblik Indonesia.
The Indonesians changed the vowel spellings in their language to be less Dutch and more American.
David
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Thanks again David.
Still interesting....
At this moment i am still reading about this piece of history.
The dutch word for Republic is REPUBLIEK.
I think REPOEBLIK is a transformation of the Dutch language.
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re: Differences Vienna / Philadelphia prints of indonesia
HockeyNut:
The Indonesian Language uses the Roman alphabet like the English Language. It is written as it sounds. The exception, compared to English is the letter C. The letter C is pronounced like "ch" in English. The letter K is pronounced as a hard C is pronounced in English. Thus, a cat in Indonesian is "kucing". It is pronounced koo-ching.
Repoeblik is the "old spelling" as they say in Indonesia. The Indonesians simplified the spelling of their language. OE became U. Thus, Repoeblik became Republik. Sambal Oelek became Sambal Ulek. There are a few other vowels that changed as well.
David
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Thanks for the explanation David and Brian.
I did not know that of Soekarno, eh Sukarno.
We have learned the old spelling at school in that time.
And that is still in my brain........
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HockeyNut:
Don't feel badly. When I was in Surabaya, I was sending postcards home to Canada and writing the city name as Soerabaja. I was so used to seeing the old spelling in philatelic notes, books, etc.
David
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re: Differences Vienna / Philadelphia prints of indonesia
Whil on holiday in Bali we visited the Freedom Monument.
Bajra Sandhi Monument is a monument to the struggles of the Balinese people throughout history. The monument is located in front of the Bali Governor's Office in Denpasar, Indonesia, on the island of Bali. The monument was built in 1987, inaugurated by president Megawati Sukarnoputri on June 14, 2003.
In side on one of the levels they have Dioramas of the lives of the Indonesian People through the years I took quite a few photos to go with my display.Her are some of them .
View from the top
Brian
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