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General Philatelic/Identify This? : German Occupation of Poland?

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Dakota
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29 Apr 2021
04:20:37pm

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I found this stamp in a collection of German Occupation of Poland. Reichpost is crossed out and the word "Polska" is written across the stamp. Can anyone tell me what I have? Thank you.Image Not Found

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Jansimon
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29 Apr 2021
05:35:20pm

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A personal act of defiance?

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Harvey
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29 Apr 2021
05:48:29pm
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It really looks like some sort of Polish local stamp but I can't seem to find it in my Barefoot book. I'll take a slower look later, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is!

Edit: Took a slower look and still can't find it. It sure would look nice in my collection of Poland Locals! Big Grin

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HockeyNut
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30 Apr 2021
01:06:09pm
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It seems to be a handwritten overprint "Poczta Polska"
I never have seen this before.

BUT THE FIRST THING I NOTICED WAS THAT THE ORIGINAL STAMP IS MICHEL NR 55 THAT WAS ISSUED IN 1900.

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REICHSPOST

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DEUTSCHES REICH (Friedensdruck)

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DEUTSCHES REICH (Kriegsdruck)

All the overprints I know off are on the germania stamps that have the inscription "DEUTSCHES REICH" and NOT "REICHSPOST"

So I think it is a fake.



At the end of the 1st WW there were a lot of local overprints.
Some districts I know are :

GRODJISK
KALISZ
MAKOW
OSTROW
PLONSEK
SKIERNEWICE
WLOCLAWEK
LECZYCA
POZNAN
BRZEZINY

they have all slighty different overprints (see pictures below)

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POZNAN issues

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BRZEZINY issues

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GRODJISK issues

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KALISZ issues

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LECZYCA issues

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Dakota
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30 Apr 2021
04:27:47pm

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re: German Occupation of Poland?

Thanks to everyone for the help. Another addition to my junk tote.

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Harvey
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30 Apr 2021
05:02:28pm
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The basic stamp is definitely from the 1900 series. That doesn't necessarily make it a fake, at least not yet! There is no reason why regional stamps couldn't have existed in that time period. Surely there is an expert in early German stamp overprints or hand stamps that can help out here! Of course, maybe it is fake - someone having a bit of fun with a common German stamp!

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Jansimon
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30 Apr 2021
05:30:27pm

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That's what I meant with my earlier remark that this might be an act of defiance. Perhaps there was someone over there in Eastern Silesia or Western Prussia or whichever German region that had a Polish minority, who thought "how do you mean this is Germany, this is Poland!" and singlehandedly changed a German stamp to a make believe Polish one.

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Harvey
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30 Apr 2021
06:20:05pm
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JanSimon, if's that what was done to the stamp, does it have any real value or is it just a novelty?

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30 Apr 2021
06:31:30pm

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In Dutch we say "wat de gek ervoor geeft", what translates to "whatever a fool wants to pay for it". Angel

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nigelc
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30 Apr 2021
06:43:05pm
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Nice phrase Jansimon! Happy

In Scotland a gowk is a fool (or a cuckoo).

Hunt-the-gowk is making someone an April fool. Cool

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Harvey
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30 Apr 2021
07:34:31pm
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I might be a fool Clown, probably am, but as a novelty I would give it a value of about $5 - $10. Seems reasonable to me!

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HockeyNut
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02 May 2021
09:56:57am
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Quote:

"There is no reason why regional stamps couldn't have existed in that time period."




The stamp is NOT from that time period. The REICHSPOST stamp is from 15 years earlier
All those overprinted stamp are originally from the germania-serie 1905 till 1915.
In this case Michel number 85I or 85II. Most likely 85II.


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Harvey
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02 May 2021
11:03:09am
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I was talking about the earlier time period. There was nothing to stop someone from a region from making up their own regional stamp using a hand stamp or any method they wanted to use. This might not be the case here, but anyone can doctor a stamp to fit what they consider to be a need at the time. That could make this stamp a one-off manufactured by a single person. It might have no value except as a curiosity. I have the book by Barefoot (Poland 1918 Locals) so I do realize when most, or all, of the locals were done. But there is no reason why someone couldn't do a few for themselves at an earlier date. Just my opinion, but I still think this stamp has some(?) value as a curiosity.
Edit: Or I suppose it could have been someone last year messing around with a ca 1900 German stamp just for something to do. No way of knowing!!

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