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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

 

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Jansimon
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08 Oct 2020
05:00:19pm

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Here is something I have absolutely no clue about, other than that it is Turkish. there is all kinds of writing on it, but I can only guess what it says. Is there anybody here who can read this and make sense of it?
Especially the reverse looks weird, almost like it was used to test a pen or something like that.

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08 Oct 2020
05:57:46pm
re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

Hi Jan-Simon,

I can't transliterate Ottoman Turkish never mind read it but it does appear to have been sent from the town/village of Kasaba:

Wikipedia says:

"Kasaba or Kasabaköy is a village 17 kilometres outside Kastamonu, Turkey.

It had a population of about 23,000 in 1905 but has since shrunk to only a few dozen households.

Kasaba does not contain any ancient sites but does have a mosque, the Mahmut Bey Camii, built by a representative of Jandarid dynasty in the second half of the 14th century."

The partial CDS strikes on the stamps and below them match my reference for CASSABA (Coles & Walker).

Some cancellations used the spelling CASSABA, others used KASSABA.



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09 Oct 2020
04:59:38pm

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re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

I had to google to understand what you meant with Coles and Walker, but what you're saying is you actually have a book about postal cancellations in the Ottoman empire? Wow, how specialized can one get!

Thank you for your help.

Jan-Simon

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nigelc
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09 Oct 2020
06:08:02pm
re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

John Coles & Howard Walker's books, Postal Cancellations of the Ottoman Empire, are four really nice hardback volumes, published on glossy paper back in 1984-1995. Happy

There is now a more comprehensive series of ten books published in Turkey covering the same subject but that it much too expensive for my pocket.

Here's a listing of them from a reseller:

https://www.balkanphila.com/shop/2003-10-illustrated-ottoman-turkish-postmarks-1840-1929/

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musicman
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09 Oct 2020
09:48:19pm
re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

Ebay has a set of four up for sale at a buy-it-now price

of 135 British pounds (approx. $174.54 U.S.)....or make offer;



https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-X-POSTAL-CANCELLATIONS-OF-THE-OTTOMAN-EMPIRE-COLES-HARDBACKS-BOOKS-1-2-3-4/353212347060?hash=item523d18b2b4:g:hwcAAOSwyIRfazih


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rrraphy
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10 Oct 2020
01:45:37am
re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

ISFILA Volume 2 has a nice section on postmarks
I own a 2008 catalog and page 855 to 977 are dedicated to cancelations. Here is a not so random ( 1917) sample, and a more recent page. They cover from 1898 on (to 78) and for the recent ones, mostly cancelations used on FDCs (see picture 2).
Here are the pictures.
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But now Niguel I feel totally outclassed and jealous!
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Jansimon

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08 Oct 2020
05:00:19pm

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Here is something I have absolutely no clue about, other than that it is Turkish. there is all kinds of writing on it, but I can only guess what it says. Is there anybody here who can read this and make sense of it?
Especially the reverse looks weird, almost like it was used to test a pen or something like that.

Jan-Simon

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nigelc

08 Oct 2020
05:57:46pm

re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

Hi Jan-Simon,

I can't transliterate Ottoman Turkish never mind read it but it does appear to have been sent from the town/village of Kasaba:

Wikipedia says:

"Kasaba or Kasabaköy is a village 17 kilometres outside Kastamonu, Turkey.

It had a population of about 23,000 in 1905 but has since shrunk to only a few dozen households.

Kasaba does not contain any ancient sites but does have a mosque, the Mahmut Bey Camii, built by a representative of Jandarid dynasty in the second half of the 14th century."

The partial CDS strikes on the stamps and below them match my reference for CASSABA (Coles & Walker).

Some cancellations used the spelling CASSABA, others used KASSABA.



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Jansimon

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09 Oct 2020
04:59:38pm

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re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

I had to google to understand what you meant with Coles and Walker, but what you're saying is you actually have a book about postal cancellations in the Ottoman empire? Wow, how specialized can one get!

Thank you for your help.

Jan-Simon

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nigelc

09 Oct 2020
06:08:02pm

re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

John Coles & Howard Walker's books, Postal Cancellations of the Ottoman Empire, are four really nice hardback volumes, published on glossy paper back in 1984-1995. Happy

There is now a more comprehensive series of ten books published in Turkey covering the same subject but that it much too expensive for my pocket.

Here's a listing of them from a reseller:

https://www.balkanphila.com/shop/2003-10-illustrated-ottoman-turkish-postmarks-1840-1929/

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musicman

APS #213005
09 Oct 2020
09:48:19pm

re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

Ebay has a set of four up for sale at a buy-it-now price

of 135 British pounds (approx. $174.54 U.S.)....or make offer;



https://www.ebay.com/itm/4-X-POSTAL-CANCELLATIONS-OF-THE-OTTOMAN-EMPIRE-COLES-HARDBACKS-BOOKS-1-2-3-4/353212347060?hash=item523d18b2b4:g:hwcAAOSwyIRfazih


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rrraphy

Retired Consultant APS#186030
10 Oct 2020
01:45:37am

re: Letter from Turkey 1917 (?) in Arabic script

ISFILA Volume 2 has a nice section on postmarks
I own a 2008 catalog and page 855 to 977 are dedicated to cancelations. Here is a not so random ( 1917) sample, and a more recent page. They cover from 1898 on (to 78) and for the recent ones, mostly cancelations used on FDCs (see picture 2).
Here are the pictures.
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But now Niguel I feel totally outclassed and jealous!
Big Grin
rrr...

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