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31 Dec 2019
12:27:32am

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The cover was flown by Fokker F. XVIII PELIKAAN on the return leg of a 73 hour 34 minutes round trip from The Netherlands to Netherlands Indies and return with Christmas mail on the 27th of December 1933.
The image I found on the net is the actual aircraft.
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31 Dec 2019
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Good one Brian ! Before the DC2.

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31 Dec 2019
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"... 73 hour 34 minutes round trip ..."



Q/ Is this from the aircraft's log, or a continuing record of all of the flights, or a secondary source ?

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31 Dec 2019
12:07:38pm
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Fascinating!
I have found this website which describes the Fokker Pelican:
https://alchetron.com/Fokker-F.XVIII

there is a video of some airplane enthusiasts showing a model airplane flying inside a gymnasium. Interesting.

Also there are several videos of the Ford Trimotor airplane. People can actually buy tickets to go for a ride on this airplane:

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/oshkosh-first-airliners/index.html

But it is a noisy aircraft!
Enjoy
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03 Jan 2020
05:01:19am

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IkeyPikey
I think I got the information from Wikipedia it didn't say were it came from.
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03 Jan 2020
01:58:27pm

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Assuming a round trip means Amsterdam - Batavia - Amsterdam, the total duration of that trip was much longer. The Pelikaan left Schiphol airport, Amsterdam on 18 December, 04:30 hrs in the morning and landed again at the same airport on 30 December, 22:10 hrs.
The voyage to Batavia took 4 days and almost 5 hours, 100 hours and 40 minutes to be precise. The return voyage was faster. The airplane left on 27 December, 05:50 hrs and arrived, as mentioned above on 30 December, 22:10 hrs. In other words 88 hours and 20 minutes.
I have no idea where the 73 hours and 34 minutes come into play. Perhaps I need to check the English wikipedia page...

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03 Jan 2020
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Yes, the English wiki page mentions the 73 hours, but unfortunately without a source. I am afraid someone made it up, or mixed things up. The only thing I can think of is that the 73 hours was the actual flight time, because they had to make a lot of stops on the way to refuel and rest.

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03 Jan 2020
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Hi Jansimon
Could well be the actual flight time ,as you stated the total time for the flight was much longer.
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03 Jan 2020
10:51:09pm
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73.5 hours would have been the flight time (actual time in the air that goes into the log book).

The great circle route from Amsterdam to Batavia (now Jakarta) is 6132 nautical miles (11357 km) one way. Assuming the flight stayed as close to the great circle route as possible, the average speed was (2 x 6132 / 73.5 hours) = 166 knots, which is an awesome achievement, given that Wikipedia gives the maximum speed of this aircraft as 150mph or 130 knots. Either the max speed is understated, or they picked up some great tail winds.

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The cover was flown by Fokker F. XVIII PELIKAAN on the return leg of a 73 hour 34 minutes round trip from The Netherlands to Netherlands Indies and return with Christmas mail on the 27th of December 1933.
The image I found on the net is the actual aircraft.
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31 Dec 2019
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Good one Brian ! Before the DC2.

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31 Dec 2019
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"... 73 hour 34 minutes round trip ..."



Q/ Is this from the aircraft's log, or a continuing record of all of the flights, or a secondary source ?

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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ArtStamp

31 Dec 2019
12:07:38pm

re: Latest addition to my Netherlands Indies Collection

Fascinating!
I have found this website which describes the Fokker Pelican:
https://alchetron.com/Fokker-F.XVIII

there is a video of some airplane enthusiasts showing a model airplane flying inside a gymnasium. Interesting.

Also there are several videos of the Ford Trimotor airplane. People can actually buy tickets to go for a ride on this airplane:

https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/oshkosh-first-airliners/index.html

But it is a noisy aircraft!
Enjoy
Happy New YearThumbs Up
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IkeyPikey
I think I got the information from Wikipedia it didn't say were it came from.
Brian

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Assuming a round trip means Amsterdam - Batavia - Amsterdam, the total duration of that trip was much longer. The Pelikaan left Schiphol airport, Amsterdam on 18 December, 04:30 hrs in the morning and landed again at the same airport on 30 December, 22:10 hrs.
The voyage to Batavia took 4 days and almost 5 hours, 100 hours and 40 minutes to be precise. The return voyage was faster. The airplane left on 27 December, 05:50 hrs and arrived, as mentioned above on 30 December, 22:10 hrs. In other words 88 hours and 20 minutes.
I have no idea where the 73 hours and 34 minutes come into play. Perhaps I need to check the English wikipedia page...

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03 Jan 2020
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re: Latest addition to my Netherlands Indies Collection

Yes, the English wiki page mentions the 73 hours, but unfortunately without a source. I am afraid someone made it up, or mixed things up. The only thing I can think of is that the 73 hours was the actual flight time, because they had to make a lot of stops on the way to refuel and rest.

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03 Jan 2020
10:19:07pm

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re: Latest addition to my Netherlands Indies Collection

Hi Jansimon
Could well be the actual flight time ,as you stated the total time for the flight was much longer.
Brian

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03 Jan 2020
10:51:09pm

re: Latest addition to my Netherlands Indies Collection

73.5 hours would have been the flight time (actual time in the air that goes into the log book).

The great circle route from Amsterdam to Batavia (now Jakarta) is 6132 nautical miles (11357 km) one way. Assuming the flight stayed as close to the great circle route as possible, the average speed was (2 x 6132 / 73.5 hours) = 166 knots, which is an awesome achievement, given that Wikipedia gives the maximum speed of this aircraft as 150mph or 130 knots. Either the max speed is understated, or they picked up some great tail winds.

Roy

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