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I recently purchased this cover, any idea on how to restore it?
I am afraid to brush it with water then press it because the handwriting is on the damaged area
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I've done this type of restoration. You need a spray bottle and a lot of patience.
Spray the crumpled area until the cover is JUST damp, and gently pull it out. Let it dry, and repeat as many times as necessary. If you wet it too much, the stamp may come off and the writing may run.
When you're happy with the end result, press the cover as you would press soaked stamps.
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I would be careful that the moisture does not make the red/blue edging run, possibly spray from the inside?
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The cover above is not repairable without causing more damage to it. Yes, it could made to look 'better' by pressing it out some, but any introduction to moisture would negatively impact the paper.
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I am with Don on this one. Sometimes we have to take our postal history as we can get it.
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You also risk mold forming from the wetting if it doesn't dry entirely inside and out before being stored away.
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As I said, patience is key. I've only kept images of one example of this process, and it wasn't a valuable cover, nor terribly crumpled. However, the benefits are obvious.
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Q/ Nobody has ever tried a dry (steam) iron?
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/s/ ikeyPikey (who thinks that wrinkled woven cotton is just wrinkled woven cotton)
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‘Fixing a wrinkled cover’ is a controversial topic and so far this thread is glossing over the real issue here.
The truth here is that preservation, conservation, and restoration are NOT synonymous.
As good stewards of philatelic history, preservation and conservation are important. These approaches include maintaining the material in our temporary possession in a stable environment in order to minimize any additional deterioration.
But restoration means making permanent changes. As we have discussed before, personal property rights dictate that as owners we can do whatever we desire with what we own. This perspective includes lighting your cigar with a rare cover if you want.
But if we want to develop good stewards in our hobby, should we be recommending that others can make permanent changes to their covers?
And it is important to note that once a person ‘restores’ and makes permanent changes to a cover, they now have an ethical responsibility to make sure the cover is documented as repaired once it enters the marketplace. Yes, restoring a cover can make it look more attractive. But who here would want to buy a restored item without knowing that it had been restored? Restored items are dangerous in the marketplace if not documented properly. Restored items typically lower the value of a rare item.
I think it is important when we make recommendations in public forums to tell the complete story. It does not matter if the recommendation is ‘leave the stamps on paper’, 'use a modern adhesive', or ‘fix the wrinkled cover’; there are many folks reading these recommendations. We cannot count on them knowing the full picture and understanding all sides of the topic.
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Humidifying is more optimal than wetting it directly. A read through this article on paper treatments may give you some ideas on how to proceed. Your interest in the procedure or the value of the item will determine the limits you want to go and how much effort you want to put into it.
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07:19:12pm
Despite all the scary warnings, I'd give light dampening a try.
But remember to only try to "Pull" one major wrinkle at a time,
in the reverse of how that wrinkle was created, just as better
auto repair shops pull out the dents in a crashed car. Patience
and thinking each step out in advance.
Let it dry thoroughly between steps, lest while pulling "East"
you tear a weakened ridge that needs to be pulled ever so
lightly "Southeast."
I never used an iron (steam) but if you try that after the ridges
are gone be careful what you use to protect the paper as a woven
cloth may impart a pattern onto the paper..
I have a couple of big, heavvvvvvvvvvvey Chemistry and Physics
books that I use to flatten difficult wrinkles by putting items
between pages and letting Mother gravity work her magic.
One last note, if you tug on the paper a little too hard and the
paper tears, no tears, just chalk it up to "RESEARCH !".
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Rather than pulling on a crease - after all, we're talking about old paper - I would try to pry open each fold, and work my way along the fold, squeezing with my gentle, dry fingers ... but that's me.
Further, remember that you do not need to do all of the straightening in one 'go'. If patience permits, I'd try a lighter weight (eg, a small paperback book) for a few days, giving the target a chance to relax, before piling on the bricks.
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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06:59:37am
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I recently purchased this cover, any idea on how to restore it?
I am afraid to brush it with water then press it because the handwriting is on the damaged area
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re: Possible To Repair A Wrinkled Cover?
I've done this type of restoration. You need a spray bottle and a lot of patience.
Spray the crumpled area until the cover is JUST damp, and gently pull it out. Let it dry, and repeat as many times as necessary. If you wet it too much, the stamp may come off and the writing may run.
When you're happy with the end result, press the cover as you would press soaked stamps.
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I would be careful that the moisture does not make the red/blue edging run, possibly spray from the inside?
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The cover above is not repairable without causing more damage to it. Yes, it could made to look 'better' by pressing it out some, but any introduction to moisture would negatively impact the paper.
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I am with Don on this one. Sometimes we have to take our postal history as we can get it.
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You also risk mold forming from the wetting if it doesn't dry entirely inside and out before being stored away.
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As I said, patience is key. I've only kept images of one example of this process, and it wasn't a valuable cover, nor terribly crumpled. However, the benefits are obvious.
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Q/ Nobody has ever tried a dry (steam) iron?
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey (who thinks that wrinkled woven cotton is just wrinkled woven cotton)
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re: Possible To Repair A Wrinkled Cover?
‘Fixing a wrinkled cover’ is a controversial topic and so far this thread is glossing over the real issue here.
The truth here is that preservation, conservation, and restoration are NOT synonymous.
As good stewards of philatelic history, preservation and conservation are important. These approaches include maintaining the material in our temporary possession in a stable environment in order to minimize any additional deterioration.
But restoration means making permanent changes. As we have discussed before, personal property rights dictate that as owners we can do whatever we desire with what we own. This perspective includes lighting your cigar with a rare cover if you want.
But if we want to develop good stewards in our hobby, should we be recommending that others can make permanent changes to their covers?
And it is important to note that once a person ‘restores’ and makes permanent changes to a cover, they now have an ethical responsibility to make sure the cover is documented as repaired once it enters the marketplace. Yes, restoring a cover can make it look more attractive. But who here would want to buy a restored item without knowing that it had been restored? Restored items are dangerous in the marketplace if not documented properly. Restored items typically lower the value of a rare item.
I think it is important when we make recommendations in public forums to tell the complete story. It does not matter if the recommendation is ‘leave the stamps on paper’, 'use a modern adhesive', or ‘fix the wrinkled cover’; there are many folks reading these recommendations. We cannot count on them knowing the full picture and understanding all sides of the topic.
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re: Possible To Repair A Wrinkled Cover?
Humidifying is more optimal than wetting it directly. A read through this article on paper treatments may give you some ideas on how to proceed. Your interest in the procedure or the value of the item will determine the limits you want to go and how much effort you want to put into it.
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re: Possible To Repair A Wrinkled Cover?
Despite all the scary warnings, I'd give light dampening a try.
But remember to only try to "Pull" one major wrinkle at a time,
in the reverse of how that wrinkle was created, just as better
auto repair shops pull out the dents in a crashed car. Patience
and thinking each step out in advance.
Let it dry thoroughly between steps, lest while pulling "East"
you tear a weakened ridge that needs to be pulled ever so
lightly "Southeast."
I never used an iron (steam) but if you try that after the ridges
are gone be careful what you use to protect the paper as a woven
cloth may impart a pattern onto the paper..
I have a couple of big, heavvvvvvvvvvvey Chemistry and Physics
books that I use to flatten difficult wrinkles by putting items
between pages and letting Mother gravity work her magic.
One last note, if you tug on the paper a little too hard and the
paper tears, no tears, just chalk it up to "RESEARCH !".
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Rather than pulling on a crease - after all, we're talking about old paper - I would try to pry open each fold, and work my way along the fold, squeezing with my gentle, dry fingers ... but that's me.
Further, remember that you do not need to do all of the straightening in one 'go'. If patience permits, I'd try a lighter weight (eg, a small paperback book) for a few days, giving the target a chance to relax, before piling on the bricks.
Cheers,
/s/ ikeyPikey
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