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One reason I ask is that the price on Ebay for Dennisons are getting higher and higher in price. Any input would be appreciated.
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#1 rule of stamp hinges:
NEVER reuse them. Once and done.
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What's the primary reason for not using the stamp hinge twice? Does it ruin the stamp?
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My primary reason would be that I have no idea what the previous persons bodily fluid might have contained. How long can infectious diseases remain dormant?
Purely on hygiene grounds it's a no no, other than that you are trusting far less hinge to keep your stamp in place.
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10:43:54pm
In general the hygiene idea is valid, however,
I have never heard of any such infectious transfer.
But some high quality hinges were used with the
appropriately minimal fluid to activate the gum,
and some collectors will put a few drops of water
in an inverted used plastic bottle cap so they
can use a cotton "Q-tips" to apply a bit of
moisture to an otherwise reasonably useable stamp
hinge..
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Once used, the gum on the hinge is used. When you peel the hinge off the stamp, some of the gum from the hinge remains on the stamp. If you reuse the hinge, there will be a weakened bond with the stamp paper since some of the gum is no longer on the hinge. The stamp can easily fall off the album page, possibly damaging the stamp. For unused stamps, wetting a used hinge can cause the gum from the stamp to adhere to the portion of the hinge without gum. when you remove such a hinge, you'll more than likely thin the stamp, or leave a hinge remnant. Also used hinges tend to roll up under the stamp and stick to it making the hinge difficult to remove and making the stamp difficult to life to see the back.
Again, NEVER reuse a hinge.
If you want to increase the number of Dennison hinges that you have without buying additional packets, try cutting the hinges in half (vertically). I have seen collections where this has been done. I wouldn't do it with large stamps, however, as the stamp can shift on the page bumping into other stamps and possibly cause damage.
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Thank you all for your comments. I'll use my remaining Dennison hinges only once. Also, I will put a "Dennison" piggy bank on my desk. Each time I sell some approvals, I'll add the proceeds to the bank. Every month or so, I'll go to Ebay and buy a pack or two.
I bought some Fold-O-Hinges by Cohen, a few months ago. They are better than the current brands out there for sale, but in no way can they really compete with Dennison.
Thanks again and hope I haven't caught any infectious diseases while reusing old hinges.
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"hope I haven't caught any infectious diseases while reusing old hinges"
If one day your tongue falls out, you'll know that you have.
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06:56:24am
Or the tip of the Q-tip will shrivel up and fall off.
As for the weakened bond, seldom does a hinge that was
used completely be worth a second look.
Remember the small part of the fold goes on the stamp
which remains attached, the wider part is only lightly
and party used, leaving about 50% of the double glued
surface undisturbed, and easily dampened so the stamp
with the original hinge still in place ready to give
good service.
It sounds like there is a misunderstanding of the way
a hinge is used.
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"Misunderstanding" ;-) I'd say ignorance. Some people must have had no idea whatsoever how a stamp hinge is used. Actually, considering that the "how-to" has been printed on many hinge packets, in stamp albums and in catalogs, one can only wonder about the mess those people have made.
If there is a large(ish) portion of the hinge still unused, you can cut off the used part and reuse the hinge. If there isn't, or if you are squeamish about it, soak the old hinge off and use a new one. Tough luck if you've got an unused stamp with most of the gum still intact. Then cut the hinge and put the stamp in a stockbook, or use a stamp mount.
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Hmmmmm. I think someone could start a "Stamp Hinge Regumming Service".
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03:06:48am
No one is talking about regumming.
The hinges that are being referred to as re-usable
are as JMH explains, less than half used. (about)
The folded part has remained firmly attached to the
top of the stamp as is traditional.The very bottom
of the large fold is also only about 25%n used.
That leaves about 50%-60% with its hinge untouched
by human hands or tongues, if the original mounter]
did not use a dampened Q-tip cotton swab perfectly
safe for rese.
.
Dampening that part is easy and safe in all respects
to hold the stamp in place in its new home.
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Vinman,
OT comment here. Out of curiosity I did a search for WRDV using my internet radio after seeing your post with the avatar. If anyone else loves big band/jazz music it's worth checking out.It's already one of my presets. Just curious,are you associated with them in some way? Anyway thanks for making others aware!
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Charlie, the risk that one takes by wetting the "unused portion of a hinge is that the fluid will also get onto the part of the hinge that doesn't have any glue. When such a hinge is attached to a gummed stamp, then the result is the same as a stamp being stuck to paper. Removing the hinge will result in a hinge remnant or worse, a thin.
Also, it sucks when one buys a collection and finds that hinges have been reused. The value of the collection is greatly reduced by heavily hinged, thinned, and hinge remnant stamps. I just broke down a collection of unused Russian miniature sheets with catalog value around $1000 if they had been mnh. In addition to the reused hinges that hardly held the sheets in place (that were arranged on album pages like a flip file) the shifting stamps were also folded and creased and the hinges were overly moistened I suppose to get a "firmer" hold on the album pages. None of it worked. The sheets were worthless and went into the recycle bin. Good thing the albums were sold for the pages only and not the stamps. At least the sheets for the most part were stuck onto blank pages, which I didn't need. But the single stamps were just as bad, and they went to the recycle bin as well.
So, a collector bought years and years worth of mnh Russian new issues *(and other countries too), slobbered them onto hinges and pasted them to the album pages. These were Scott International albums. I bought them for $25 each. I'm reusing the pages. The collector lost alot of money through his improper use of hinges.
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Snick,
I have a Blues show Monday night 10:00 - 1:00 Blues in the Night. You can also hear me Friday morning 8:00 - 12:00 noon, I play Big Band & Swing on The Friday Morning Bandstand.
Tonight on Blues in the Night I will focus on female artists and some music for Mardi Gras and highlight some artists that are celebrating birthdays this week.
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Michael, cut off the used part of the hinge, then you won't have to worry about the "glueless" part rolling inward.
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I don't use hinges. They cause too much damage to stamps, including damage not discussed thus far in this thread. All of my 300,000 stamps that are housed in printed album pages are in mounts.
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If I'm moving stamps from an album to another, what is the general feeling on re-using the same stamp hinge? This is when I know it's a good hinge, like the old Dennison brand. The type that easily peels off both stamp and album page. It appears to work well. However, do they then become loose sooner or degrade the quality of the stamp or page.
One reason I ask is that the price on Ebay for Dennisons are getting higher and higher in price. Any input would be appreciated.
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#1 rule of stamp hinges:
NEVER reuse them. Once and done.
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What's the primary reason for not using the stamp hinge twice? Does it ruin the stamp?
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My primary reason would be that I have no idea what the previous persons bodily fluid might have contained. How long can infectious diseases remain dormant?
Purely on hygiene grounds it's a no no, other than that you are trusting far less hinge to keep your stamp in place.
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21 Feb 2019
10:43:54pm
re: Old Hinges
In general the hygiene idea is valid, however,
I have never heard of any such infectious transfer.
But some high quality hinges were used with the
appropriately minimal fluid to activate the gum,
and some collectors will put a few drops of water
in an inverted used plastic bottle cap so they
can use a cotton "Q-tips" to apply a bit of
moisture to an otherwise reasonably useable stamp
hinge..
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12:36:28am
re: Old Hinges
Once used, the gum on the hinge is used. When you peel the hinge off the stamp, some of the gum from the hinge remains on the stamp. If you reuse the hinge, there will be a weakened bond with the stamp paper since some of the gum is no longer on the hinge. The stamp can easily fall off the album page, possibly damaging the stamp. For unused stamps, wetting a used hinge can cause the gum from the stamp to adhere to the portion of the hinge without gum. when you remove such a hinge, you'll more than likely thin the stamp, or leave a hinge remnant. Also used hinges tend to roll up under the stamp and stick to it making the hinge difficult to remove and making the stamp difficult to life to see the back.
Again, NEVER reuse a hinge.
If you want to increase the number of Dennison hinges that you have without buying additional packets, try cutting the hinges in half (vertically). I have seen collections where this has been done. I wouldn't do it with large stamps, however, as the stamp can shift on the page bumping into other stamps and possibly cause damage.
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Thank you all for your comments. I'll use my remaining Dennison hinges only once. Also, I will put a "Dennison" piggy bank on my desk. Each time I sell some approvals, I'll add the proceeds to the bank. Every month or so, I'll go to Ebay and buy a pack or two.
I bought some Fold-O-Hinges by Cohen, a few months ago. They are better than the current brands out there for sale, but in no way can they really compete with Dennison.
Thanks again and hope I haven't caught any infectious diseases while reusing old hinges.
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11:35:40am
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"hope I haven't caught any infectious diseases while reusing old hinges"
If one day your tongue falls out, you'll know that you have.
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24 Feb 2019
06:56:24am
re: Old Hinges
Or the tip of the Q-tip will shrivel up and fall off.
As for the weakened bond, seldom does a hinge that was
used completely be worth a second look.
Remember the small part of the fold goes on the stamp
which remains attached, the wider part is only lightly
and party used, leaving about 50% of the double glued
surface undisturbed, and easily dampened so the stamp
with the original hinge still in place ready to give
good service.
It sounds like there is a misunderstanding of the way
a hinge is used.
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03:54:20am
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"Misunderstanding" ;-) I'd say ignorance. Some people must have had no idea whatsoever how a stamp hinge is used. Actually, considering that the "how-to" has been printed on many hinge packets, in stamp albums and in catalogs, one can only wonder about the mess those people have made.
If there is a large(ish) portion of the hinge still unused, you can cut off the used part and reuse the hinge. If there isn't, or if you are squeamish about it, soak the old hinge off and use a new one. Tough luck if you've got an unused stamp with most of the gum still intact. Then cut the hinge and put the stamp in a stockbook, or use a stamp mount.
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Hmmmmm. I think someone could start a "Stamp Hinge Regumming Service".
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03:06:48am
re: Old Hinges
No one is talking about regumming.
The hinges that are being referred to as re-usable
are as JMH explains, less than half used. (about)
The folded part has remained firmly attached to the
top of the stamp as is traditional.The very bottom
of the large fold is also only about 25%n used.
That leaves about 50%-60% with its hinge untouched
by human hands or tongues, if the original mounter]
did not use a dampened Q-tip cotton swab perfectly
safe for rese.
.
Dampening that part is easy and safe in all respects
to hold the stamp in place in its new home.
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Vinman,
OT comment here. Out of curiosity I did a search for WRDV using my internet radio after seeing your post with the avatar. If anyone else loves big band/jazz music it's worth checking out.It's already one of my presets. Just curious,are you associated with them in some way? Anyway thanks for making others aware!
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11:49:05am
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Charlie, the risk that one takes by wetting the "unused portion of a hinge is that the fluid will also get onto the part of the hinge that doesn't have any glue. When such a hinge is attached to a gummed stamp, then the result is the same as a stamp being stuck to paper. Removing the hinge will result in a hinge remnant or worse, a thin.
Also, it sucks when one buys a collection and finds that hinges have been reused. The value of the collection is greatly reduced by heavily hinged, thinned, and hinge remnant stamps. I just broke down a collection of unused Russian miniature sheets with catalog value around $1000 if they had been mnh. In addition to the reused hinges that hardly held the sheets in place (that were arranged on album pages like a flip file) the shifting stamps were also folded and creased and the hinges were overly moistened I suppose to get a "firmer" hold on the album pages. None of it worked. The sheets were worthless and went into the recycle bin. Good thing the albums were sold for the pages only and not the stamps. At least the sheets for the most part were stuck onto blank pages, which I didn't need. But the single stamps were just as bad, and they went to the recycle bin as well.
So, a collector bought years and years worth of mnh Russian new issues *(and other countries too), slobbered them onto hinges and pasted them to the album pages. These were Scott International albums. I bought them for $25 each. I'm reusing the pages. The collector lost alot of money through his improper use of hinges.
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Snick,
I have a Blues show Monday night 10:00 - 1:00 Blues in the Night. You can also hear me Friday morning 8:00 - 12:00 noon, I play Big Band & Swing on The Friday Morning Bandstand.
Tonight on Blues in the Night I will focus on female artists and some music for Mardi Gras and highlight some artists that are celebrating birthdays this week.
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Michael, cut off the used part of the hinge, then you won't have to worry about the "glueless" part rolling inward.
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09:15:12am
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I don't use hinges. They cause too much damage to stamps, including damage not discussed thus far in this thread. All of my 300,000 stamps that are housed in printed album pages are in mounts.
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