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I picked up this cover along with another from an eBay seller. I'm not really into this collecting area, but I like spreading shipping costs over multiple lots, and this one wasn't getting any respect:
I've done some research on it, but still have a few questions.
Looks like it was posted from King Street, Covent Garden (London). Under a magnifying glass, I can just make out the cancel as 1856 at the top, "AU" in the middle, and (probably) a 1 at each side. At the bottom, I see E and B with a crown in between.
The 19 CENTS indicates the amount due.
The other cancel was applied in Boston, 13 AUG, 24 cents due, which includes 5 cents for the inland postage. (24 cents in 1856 is more than $15 today.)
I found a reference showing all the British Packet sailings for 1840-1875, here:
https://d2jf3tgwe889fp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/North_Atlantic_Mail_Sailings_1840-75_with_Revisions.pdf
From that reference, I determine that this cover was carried on the America, a Cunard Line steamer which departed (Liverpool?) on August 2, 1856 for this voyage. It arrived Boston August 13, 1856. The America won the Blue Riband in 1848 on her maiden voyage by averaging 11.71 knots, making the passage to Halifax in 9 days and 16 minutes. She was sold in 1863. There were 3 other ships in her class of 1850 tons, all launched in 1848: Niagara, Europa, and Canada.
The addressee is Mrs. Wm Proctor, Care of Proctor and Gamble, Cincinnati, Ohio U.S. N.A. (United States of North America?) Interestingly, Proctor & Gamble was founded in Cincinnati in 1837.
Does the crown indicate that this was official mail of some sort?
I do note that Christie's is (and was, since 1766) located on King Street in London...
Any ideas?
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that is a very cool cover, especially the history around the recipient
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Here are new additions to my cancel collection.
Bold letter "S"
These next two covers are from Pittsfield, Mass. These are the same type of Negative letters and numerals used in Boston. There are several other towns that used these Large Negative Numerals and letters.
The top three are probably from Boston. The Blue CrossRoads is a Chicago cancel. The large "R" is believed to be a precancel, town unknown. The "K" in circle is also unknown origin.
edit-The letter "R precancel is from Glouster, MA. It is identified on the Stamp Smarter site. http://stampsmarter.com/features/FancyCancelsClassicView.html
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Vinman - thanks for posting all the new cancels as well as the descriptions. It's always enjoyable to see what new treasures you have found. Sally
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vinman:
I agree, your cancels are fascinating, keep posting them. The link you provided to the Fancy Cancel database blew me away with the diversity of these cancels. Clearly this isn't an area I've paid much attention to. Some of them, particularly the geometric ones, are very clever and even suggest three dimensions. Small question: why would there be skull and cross bones cancels? Anyway, I'm looking forward to the blog on fancy cancels that Stamp Smarter is starting at the end of the week.
Jim
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Vince - keep those cancels coming!
Great fun to see what you'll find next.
While I was in Orlando last week seeing Disney World with my granddaughter (so much fun!)
I took the time to go to a stamp show put on by the Central Florida Stamp Club.
Here are the items I picked up there;
A nice US C11 on a special delivery cover;
A Highway P.O. "First Trip" cover;
A couple of revenues, federal and state;
A nice mint copy of a US C11 of the "open door" variety, along side another revenue;
And this interesting censored cover that I'm wondering if you all can help me decipher,
as I don't speak or read German!
Any info will be greatly appreciated!
I collect AMG issues, which is why I bought it.
I know the UNRRA stands for the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration,
but that's about all I know.....
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I guess no one has any info about the AMG cover....!
Surpising.
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Here are a few items that arrived today.
This is a free frank from Utica, NY to the postmaster in Constableville, Lewis County, NY.
This cover has a Patent Cancel from Madison, WI. There are pin pricks in the center of the cancel that penetrate the stamp to help the ink sink into the fibers of the paper to prevent cleaning and reuse of the stamp.
This has a nice strike of the Boston Negative Numeral 13.
Some nice strikes of the Large Boston Negative Numerals and Letters.
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Nice, vinman!
I've got two postal history projects ongoing, one is to document the 1909-1910 air exposition activity.
Here's one I snagged last night:
It depicts Louis Bleriot's model XII, an obscure and short-lived variant, which he used in competition in the Grande Semaine D'Aviation event in August, 1909, bearing the number 22. It crashed and caught fire, severely burning his hand, and thus he surrendered the win to Glenn Curtis in the final round of the Gordon Bennett Race. (Bleriot's aeroplanes were notoriously unstable.) I don't have enough info on the cancel yet, but it might be an event cancel.
I've been going through the first two volumes of Flight magazine (1909 and 1910), and have tabulated a total of FORTY-FIVE air exposition events in 1910 in Europe! Wow! There was a major craze. So, these commemorative postcards from the earliest years of aviation are relatively plentiful. The challenge is to find them with contemporary postmarks. My ideal is to collect ones that were postmarked during the event they commemorate.
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Here's another, feeding my other postal history obsession around the Pomeroy & Newark branch railroad, which was mostly torn out during WWII and which I lived near for more than 20 years:
Buck Run was about 2 miles down the tracks from Glenrose, which our nice new Pennsylvania Postal History book says did not change its name from Timicula until June 27, 1912! (Ah, could that have been JANUARY 27, 1912?) David Brinton was the first postmaster of Timicula and remained PM after the name change to Glenrose. I lived about 2 miles as the crow flies from the location of this DPO for 15 years. Kind of a plain-Jane item, until you read the message:
The salutation is "Frnd", short for friend, a title frequently used by Quakers to address each other. And, the last line is, "Hope thee will come again", common Quaker vernacular.
By the way, Samuel McCord, the addressee, was the postmaster at Buck Run beginning sometime before 1907!
I *have* to believe that "D.B." is David Brinton the Glenrose postmaster! And, what a neat message!
I also firmly believe that this item was carried by the P&N railroad - both sending and receiving POs were stations on the line.
Isn't postal history interesting?
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Musicman, I have this wrapper from AMG, I don't really collect Germany (despite having a few hundred). If you would like to have this let me know and I'll put it in the post.
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Sheepshanks,
I would certainly enjoy having the cover you showed - thanks for your generosity.
If you have anything special you'd like to post it with, let me know
and I'll be happy to send it back to you.
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I have greatly refrained from making any stamp purchases over the last 3 years since I do not want to add to the disposition burden for my wife, one room full of stuff will be bad enough! But I sometimes cannot resist adding material typically are not represented on preprinted album pages. So here are some of the most recently added coil leader and trailer strips.
Don
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Ok Randy will be in post on Tuesday as public holiday Monday here in Manitoba.
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That is a really neat little collection Don! Most folks no doubt just tossed the leader strips from their rolls.
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My Mailman has been busy this week delivering more covers and stamps for my collection. This first post is a small collection of US Postal Cards. They are "Wanted, Stolen Cars" advertisements. The dates range from February 1932 to May 1936.They are all addressed to "Sheriff, Leona, Iowa. They come from Colorado, Iowa, Nebraska and Minnesota. They are all on Scott US UX27. I noticed while I was scanning these one card is smaller than the others. I'm not sure if this was the way it was issued from the Post Office. The bottom scan shows the front of a UX27.
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Nice little collection, Vince!
Would be really neat if you could relate any of these cards to activities of known criminals that were active in the Midwest in this era: John Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, etc...
-Paul
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What are "Tubular Bumbers"? I just might have to get some of those for my car.
Thanks Vinman, for showing us these remarkable bits of history.
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Benque,
I'm not sure what a "Tubular Bumber" is but it must be cool looking.
Here is a Folded Letter Sheet from Somerville, NJ with an intergral "5" in the CDS to the State Treasurer in Trenton, NJ. The letter is looking for information for the assessors in Hunterdon, County, NJ
This is a cover from Leominster, MA with a red "5" for 5 Cents due. The cover is sealed with "Sacred To Friendship" seal.
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1928 Essex Sedan (which, my mother tells me, was the car my grandfather owned when she was a young girl in the 1940s)
The 'tubular bumber' has to be there somewhere ....
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"I guess no one has any info about the AMG cover....!"
the return address is Camp Luitpold Barracks, which was an artillery station and later a hospital. after AMG forces took command, it became a clearinghouse for displaced Poles. (it is currently part of the Ludwigsburg Police Facilities)
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Scott,
Thanks for that bit of information!
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Example of a tubular bumper.
Don
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Here are some stamps that arrived this week.
On the top row, 1st stamp shows a Masonic Trowel, the handle is in the area Jackson's ear. 2nd is a geometric probably from Brooklyn, NY. 3RD stamp shows a compass and square also Masonic. 4th stamp has a Maltese cross.
Bottom row 1st stamp is another trowel, Masonic. 2nd & 3rd are just triangles.
The top row first three stamps are Patent Cancels, 1st stamp the inner circle cuts into the stamp design and the 2nd & 3rd have pins in the center of the cancel that cut into the stamp to help prevent reuse. The 4th stamp was sold as a Masonic cancel, four swords through three circles. This is listed in Cole's "Killers & Cancellations of the Banknote Era" GE-114 from Tiskilwa, IL. Cole's illustration shows a fourth circle at the bottom of the design. 5th stamp has a Crescent and Ball, probably Masonic. The 1st stamp second row was described as 'Serpent in Keystone", I see just a spiral in the design. The last stamp is my favorite "Man In Coffin" from Harrisburg, PA.
I have more covers to post but will wait until tomorrow when I have more time.
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These aren't new acquisitions, but I thought that some members might like to see them, especially Vinman. I found them in a small ice cream parlor/gift shop in Cottonwood, Arizona, some time in the 1980s. Note especially the two stamps at the top:
The two stamps at the top were obviously cancelled with the same device, but at different times. Notice that stamp on the right shows an apparent crack in one of the spokes; on the stamp at the right, the spoke has apparently lost its tip:
Bob
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Bob,
I do like them. A page of cancels are a nice way to enhance a collection. I tried to look up the top two cancels but no luck yet. I like the cancels showing progression of wear. I have a small collection of Springfield, MA geometric cancels showing the progression of wear.They are all nice strikes because I have them on Postal Cards. When I get a chance I'll post them.
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I picked up a 2015 edition of SG's British Commonwealth and Empire Stamps 1840-1970 off ebay.
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Phenomenal cancellations, Vince!
Thanks!
-Paul
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Here, after a certain amount of waiting - the Italian postal service not being as prompt as that of some other countries - is positively the last of the pre-war Soviet sets to make it into my album, all others being beyond my pocket:
It's a simple, but I think attractive, Postage Due set (that word 'doplata' appears on the dues from other countries, too), one of three apparently identical issued in the first month of 1925 and, according to Gibbons, the last to be issued in the USSR. The other two are either not watermarked (this one is) or lithographed (this one is typo).
A brief word about how I came about these: the set was offered at auction on Delcampe by an Italian dealer, priced extremely generously at the equivalent of a dollar or so. Clearly I was not the only collector interested, as the price kept on going up by 10 cents, which I found irritating. At one point I doubled the stakes (to roughly $7), and when that was topped by another ten cents I lost patience and redoubled. I feared 'sniping' as the closing time neared, but I was not at home at that moment, so I was surprised when I 'won' the auction at a price of around $13.
To many of you this may seem a reasonably ordinary transaction, but I must admit to a disliking of this sort of thing. I prefer to pay what a dealer specifies, and if the price is too high, I let it go. I am no good at haggling. In this case I had a suspicion that the dealer himself was upping the ante to get a better price. Perhaps not. The set catalogues (SG) at £6.50 (9USD, 11.50CAD) and since many stamps are offered at a fraction of catalogue prices maybe the dealer felt very clever at extracting 150% from me. Bravo, Signior, many of you may think, but my custom will seldom be coming his way again.
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Here are a few new additions to my cancel collection.
1st stamp US Scott #65 with numeral "3" rate marking. 2nd US #183 with a patent cancel. 3rd US 148, probably a New York Foreign Mail cancel, the reason I say probably is that there were other towns that used this type of cancel but since it is on a higher value stamp makes me think it was for foreign mail. 4th stamp US # 213 with a bottle stopper cancel. Notice the numeral "3" in the center of the cancel, it designates the stopper size. These can be found in numerals 2 1/2 up to "7".
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I rather suspect that the set was so nice that someone else decided that it would fit very well into completing their collection and you priced it beyond their reach! 
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This is a response to vinman's posting where he states:
"US 148, probably a New York Foreign Mail cancel, the reason I say probably is that there were other towns that used this type of cancel but since it is on a higher value stamp makes me think it was for foreign mail"
Here is a cover I'm coveting:
Foreign mail to be sure. I'm not a rates guy, but based on this cover, I might expect the use of 6c Lincolns for foreign mail to be common. Canceling PO is a DPO about 10 miles from where I grew up, in Iowa. Interesting that the two 6c Lincoln stamps have such different colorations and centering. Definitely not torn from the same sheet. Plus, I love Banknotes, and both copies are F-VF, so I really want this cover!
Q: Does "Via Bremen" indicate the ship it was carried on, or the receiver town?
I note the Bremen cancellation in the lower left, 23-March, 1872. Is that a ship cancel? There is a round Chicago PAID cancel on the reverse in red dated March 7, and another round receiver cancellation that looks like "AUSG. No. 1" in black, but which does not have a legible date.
Seller wanted $50 for this cover. I countered $20, and got cricket-chirping noises in response...So, it's not mine...yet...
-Paul
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Bremen was a Iron Screw Steamer 3 Masts Barquentine, built by Caird & Co (Scotland) for Norddeutscher Lloyd in 1858, sold in 1874, and wrecked in 1882. She made many immigrant voyages during her life...
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Bremen is also a city in Germany. Bremen lies on both sides of the River Weser, about 60 kilometres (37 miles) upstream of its estuary on the North Sea and its transition to the Outer Weser by Bremerhaven.
Bremerhaven is a port city. I remember picking up our 1966 Plymouth Valiant in Bremerhaven upon it's arrival from the USA. And three years later depositing it back there for it's return to the USA.
Possibly in those days the port was known simply as Bremen.
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" ... I remember picking up our 1966 Plymouth Valiant in Bremerhaven
upon it's arrival from the USA ...."
Well, that brings back memories of wadering around Bremerhabven
about that time.
I was sailing on the USNS Geiger as Chief Quartermaster
and later the USNS Darby, and the USNS Comet then,
We made round trips between Bremerhaven and the
Brooklyn Army Base Piers, seven days over, about three days
in Bremerhaven, seven days back, sometimes with a short stop
in Southampton, Rotterdam, or Le Harve,
Roughly a twenty-one day round trip, crossing the Atlantic
some thrty times winter or summer. So it is possible your
treasured Plymouth Valiant was among the thousands of vehicles
we carried, safely for US servicemen and dependants..
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When i was in the service i remember guys buying VW's and shipping them home. They had to have the safety glass option for the U.S.
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Very interesting Charlie! You may have very well delivered my little Valiant. And added value, my last name is Geiger.
And what's a post without an illustration. The Valiant in Switzerland circa 1970!
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Tom will appreciate this:
My wife (then fiancée), Susan purchased a new Valiant when she graduated from Western New Mexico University in our home town, Silver City, New Mexico, in the spring of 1966. Her dad recommended the Valiant as her first car:
Susan moved out to San Diego after graduating from college so she could be near me while I was recovering from my gunshot wound, a souvenir of Vietnam. I got out of traction and into a huge and cumbersome cast soon after she arrived. Because of the cast, I could only sit sideways in the back seat while she drove. In August, we drove back to Silver City, with me sitting sideways in the back seat all the way. That was a very long drive! The next photo was taken in in 1967 near Columbia, Missouri, when I was a student at the University of Missouri.
In 1973, we moved to Prince George, BC, 800 km (500 miles) north of Vancouver, and into a winter with record snowfall. The Valiant just couldn't handle snow and ice, so we traded it in on a Jeep Wagoneer.
Bob
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Thanks Bob, that's a great story. My Valiant was purchased by my father in 1968, less than 2 years old with 8,000 easy miles on it. The dealership gave the local priest a new one every two years. My dad bought it since we left our last car in Izmir, Turkey and he was on his way to an assignment in Seoul, Korea. He needed a reliable car for my mother to drive while he was away. After that year it went with us to Germany and back to the USA transported by Charlie. In 1975 it became my first car. It was an awful beige with a red interior. In 1975 Ford was pitching the new Ford Granada as European style in a continental silver with red interior. So I painted it to match!
I held onto that car up until 2011, when I moved to Pennsylvania. It had fallen into disrepair and was out of use for a decade. Upon my move, a friend of mine wanted to turn it as a drag car, so I let him have it. I should check and see if he succeeded.
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These just in from Janet's Stamps (SOR Actions) 
French colonies are one of my favorite collecting areas and I really like the large airmails. The 200F Cameroons was on the cover of my first stamp album many years ago and I've always wanted one so I was especially pleased to win it and have it arrive.
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I think French stamp design beats all!
Sweden is a close second.
-Paul
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Sometimes I'm easily amused! I was trolling eBay last week and came across these precancel blocks. I thought them interesting. Obviously created by a collector at his local post office, I doubt if they saw actual postage use, but the backs are clean of gum.
With my free range album, these fit in perfectly. I am pleased.
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Hi Tom,
Are you sure that those are precancels? To my eye they look more like roller cancels.
Don
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Don- To me they look like local precancels. Note that the size is right for a definitive stamp, the images too precisely placed. I don't see these as commercially / properly used. No doubt a favor job by the local post office for a collector.
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I agree with Tom. They look like local precancels, especially since the bars at top and bottom begin and end within each stamp, and do not continue across the blocks.
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Found these in the back of a scabby old album I bought in a mixed box lot at a stamp auction last night:-
They are all very lightly mint hinged.
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"Found these in the back of a scabby old album I bought in a mixed box lot at a stamp auction last night"
Looks like a nice find considering you probably didn't pay very much for the scabby album.
Dennis
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Great find Ian!
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stamperMA:-
They were the last two pages in one album that came out of a mixed box of albums, covers, loose stamps in envelopes which I paid £35.00 for.
I am an auction junkie and can't resist mixed boxes!
I don't know what it is but I have found that the last couple of pages in albums are missed by other bidders. I always look at the last pages. I once bought an album of Germany and the last page was of Queen Victoria mint hinged Zululand!!
The stamps were as clean and fresh as if they had just come off the printers press.
My Japanese dragons were found in similar circumstances as well as six Penny Blacks!!
Even the auctioneers fail to check the last couple of pages.
ALWAYS check the last couple of pages in any album for sale.
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Latest acquisition: 1865 Great Britain 6 pence (Scott #45) featuring the W. Wyon portrait of Queen Victoria (Die 2 - engraved by W. Humphrys). A 6 pence stamp would be for a letter far exceeding the 1 1/2 oz (1 pence) rate, or to a foreign country.
Heraldic Emblems watermark, 14 perforations per inch. Violet in color. Plate 5. The oval shaped cancellation tells us it was mailed in England proper or Wales. The "545" indicates it was cancelled on Neville ST., Newcastle on Tyne (Northumb).
The angle of the cancellation suggests it was stamped by a male postal worker between 40 and 45 years old, right handed. The fading and wear of the stamp is indicative of it being stored in a maple roll top desk for over 85 years, in a stamp album owned by a child of slight proportion and lilting gait, named Becky.
Purchased on eBay for £5.
Cheers.
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Wonderful informational deductions, Mr. Holmes!
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Bought these along with other things at my local Auction House today
Now I just have to find a catalogue that lists them.
I know Barefoot do one but they very seldom come up on the second hand market.
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Ian,
This might help for the India stamps;
http://www.angelfire.com/pr/perfinsoc/publicat/india/Indiarev.pdf
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Thanks musicman, the site is raising the perfin mania in me.
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Here is quite an unusual Mini Sheet on cover
Its not in the best of condition but unusual all the same.
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I returned home from a business trip to Syracuse, NY and this was waiting for my return!
US Number one Ben Franklin on cover, Boston cancel on the stamp itself. Philatelic Foundation Certificate accompanied the purchase. I do have a single used number one, but a cover was on my bucket list. So there!
I had points on my credit card that were redeemable for gift cards. In the past, I got restaurant cards. This time I noticed I qualified for a $100 eBay gift card. So I splurged!
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Very nice! Congratulations and thanks for posting the photo. Very creative use of credit card points. 
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Great job Tom! I bet you're collection is really taking off.
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Gorgeous cover, Tom!
Too bad you missed yesterday's "You've Got Mail!" presentation by John Barwis. He is a GREAT speaker, and his presentation on the history of Philadelphia and the mails was truly outstanding.
He exhibited this cover there:
It's called the "B Free Franklin" cover based on his signature (look closely).
Incredible!
Read more about it here:
https://www.uspcs.org/home-page-slider/b-free-franklin/
-Paul
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I have other 'tiny' covers but this one is under 3" wide and is one of the smallest I have ever seen, I could not pass it up.
Don
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"Very creative use of credit card points. "
Yes! No more chain restaurant gift cards for me!
"Great job Tom! I bet you're collection is really taking off."
Hey Ernie! We haven't conversed in a while.. Thanks! Yes, I'm working on the Bucket List!
"oo bad you missed yesterday's "You've Got Mail!" presentation by John Barwis."
Paul, I had wanted to be there, but yesterday was the model car club meeting before our big show. We set up about 20 people on an assembly line to put together 900 goody bags!
The big show is next Saturday... www.nnleast.com
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Nice cover 51Studebaker
I have a small cover that was given to me a few tears ago.
The enclosure was a baby announcement.
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I like that 1 cent bisect - is that the proper rate for a "small" envelope?
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Two years ago my wife and I visited Lima, Peru. While there we happened across Santo Domingo church. Within that church is a chapel where Santa Rosa, the patron saint of Lima is buried.
There were a number of exhibits near by, one of which featured Peruvian stamps that featured Santa Rosa. Now, I do not collect Peru, but I thought I'd replicate that small collection as a sort of souvenir of our visit.
The following is my modest collection:
Sorry for poor resolution. As you may know this site limits the bytes you can upload.
David
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Yes I did it! I just moved the line in the sand on how much I'd ever spend on a stamp!
I know I shared here that owning Scott 1 and 2 was on my bucket list. And that I was hoping to collect much of my 19th Century USA on cover. So here we are!
I had been following this one on eBay. I was admiring it the other evening on my screen and my wife came up behind me so I said, "Guess what I'm buying?" Keep in mind I wasn't buying, just looking for the gasping reaction. Her reply, "If that's what you want for your birthday!" I was surprised. My birthday is in September but I seized the opportunity and bought it. It should arrive on Friday if you believe USPS.
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Or if you'd rather -
you can send it on to me for safe-keeping....yes??
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Quite a cover indeed. Covers were so much nicer when people had elegant handwriting. US #2 was my most expensive purchase to date as well.
Cheers,
Wine
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08:25:22pm
Thought I'd start a new one.
I picked up this cover along with another from an eBay seller. I'm not really into this collecting area, but I like spreading shipping costs over multiple lots, and this one wasn't getting any respect:
I've done some research on it, but still have a few questions.
Looks like it was posted from King Street, Covent Garden (London). Under a magnifying glass, I can just make out the cancel as 1856 at the top, "AU" in the middle, and (probably) a 1 at each side. At the bottom, I see E and B with a crown in between.
The 19 CENTS indicates the amount due.
The other cancel was applied in Boston, 13 AUG, 24 cents due, which includes 5 cents for the inland postage. (24 cents in 1856 is more than $15 today.)
I found a reference showing all the British Packet sailings for 1840-1875, here:
https://d2jf3tgwe889fp.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/North_Atlantic_Mail_Sailings_1840-75_with_Revisions.pdf
From that reference, I determine that this cover was carried on the America, a Cunard Line steamer which departed (Liverpool?) on August 2, 1856 for this voyage. It arrived Boston August 13, 1856. The America won the Blue Riband in 1848 on her maiden voyage by averaging 11.71 knots, making the passage to Halifax in 9 days and 16 minutes. She was sold in 1863. There were 3 other ships in her class of 1850 tons, all launched in 1848: Niagara, Europa, and Canada.
The addressee is Mrs. Wm Proctor, Care of Proctor and Gamble, Cincinnati, Ohio U.S. N.A. (United States of North America?) Interestingly, Proctor & Gamble was founded in Cincinnati in 1837.
Does the crown indicate that this was official mail of some sort?
I do note that Christie's is (and was, since 1766) located on King Street in London...
Any ideas?
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re: Recent Acquisitions 14
that is a very cool cover, especially the history around the recipient
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re: Recent Acquisitions 14
Here are new additions to my cancel collection.
Bold letter "S"
These next two covers are from Pittsfield, Mass. These are the same type of Negative letters and numerals used in Boston. There are several other towns that used these Large Negative Numerals and letters.
The top three are probably from Boston. The Blue CrossRoads is a Chicago cancel. The large "R" is believed to be a precancel, town unknown. The "K" in circle is also unknown origin.
edit-The letter "R precancel is from Glouster, MA. It is identified on the Stamp Smarter site. http://stampsmarter.com/features/FancyCancelsClassicView.html
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Vinman - thanks for posting all the new cancels as well as the descriptions. It's always enjoyable to see what new treasures you have found. Sally
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vinman:
I agree, your cancels are fascinating, keep posting them. The link you provided to the Fancy Cancel database blew me away with the diversity of these cancels. Clearly this isn't an area I've paid much attention to. Some of them, particularly the geometric ones, are very clever and even suggest three dimensions. Small question: why would there be skull and cross bones cancels? Anyway, I'm looking forward to the blog on fancy cancels that Stamp Smarter is starting at the end of the week.
Jim
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Vince - keep those cancels coming!
Great fun to see what you'll find next.
While I was in Orlando last week seeing Disney World with my granddaughter (so much fun!)
I took the time to go to a stamp show put on by the Central Florida Stamp Club.
Here are the items I picked up there;
A nice US C11 on a special delivery cover;
A Highway P.O. "First Trip" cover;
A couple of revenues, federal and state;
A nice mint copy of a US C11 of the "open door" variety, along side another revenue;
And this interesting censored cover that I'm wondering if you all can help me decipher,
as I don't speak or read German!
Any info will be greatly appreciated!
I collect AMG issues, which is why I bought it.
I know the UNRRA stands for the United Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration,
but that's about all I know.....
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I guess no one has any info about the AMG cover....!
Surpising.
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Here are a few items that arrived today.
This is a free frank from Utica, NY to the postmaster in Constableville, Lewis County, NY.
This cover has a Patent Cancel from Madison, WI. There are pin pricks in the center of the cancel that penetrate the stamp to help the ink sink into the fibers of the paper to prevent cleaning and reuse of the stamp.
This has a nice strike of the Boston Negative Numeral 13.
Some nice strikes of the Large Boston Negative Numerals and Letters.
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Nice, vinman!
I've got two postal history projects ongoing, one is to document the 1909-1910 air exposition activity.
Here's one I snagged last night:
It depicts Louis Bleriot's model XII, an obscure and short-lived variant, which he used in competition in the Grande Semaine D'Aviation event in August, 1909, bearing the number 22. It crashed and caught fire, severely burning his hand, and thus he surrendered the win to Glenn Curtis in the final round of the Gordon Bennett Race. (Bleriot's aeroplanes were notoriously unstable.) I don't have enough info on the cancel yet, but it might be an event cancel.
I've been going through the first two volumes of Flight magazine (1909 and 1910), and have tabulated a total of FORTY-FIVE air exposition events in 1910 in Europe! Wow! There was a major craze. So, these commemorative postcards from the earliest years of aviation are relatively plentiful. The challenge is to find them with contemporary postmarks. My ideal is to collect ones that were postmarked during the event they commemorate.
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Here's another, feeding my other postal history obsession around the Pomeroy & Newark branch railroad, which was mostly torn out during WWII and which I lived near for more than 20 years:
Buck Run was about 2 miles down the tracks from Glenrose, which our nice new Pennsylvania Postal History book says did not change its name from Timicula until June 27, 1912! (Ah, could that have been JANUARY 27, 1912?) David Brinton was the first postmaster of Timicula and remained PM after the name change to Glenrose. I lived about 2 miles as the crow flies from the location of this DPO for 15 years. Kind of a plain-Jane item, until you read the message:
The salutation is "Frnd", short for friend, a title frequently used by Quakers to address each other. And, the last line is, "Hope thee will come again", common Quaker vernacular.
By the way, Samuel McCord, the addressee, was the postmaster at Buck Run beginning sometime before 1907!
I *have* to believe that "D.B." is David Brinton the Glenrose postmaster! And, what a neat message!
I also firmly believe that this item was carried by the P&N railroad - both sending and receiving POs were stations on the line.
Isn't postal history interesting?
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Musicman, I have this wrapper from AMG, I don't really collect Germany (despite having a few hundred). If you would like to have this let me know and I'll put it in the post.
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Sheepshanks,
I would certainly enjoy having the cover you showed - thanks for your generosity.
If you have anything special you'd like to post it with, let me know
and I'll be happy to send it back to you.
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I have greatly refrained from making any stamp purchases over the last 3 years since I do not want to add to the disposition burden for my wife, one room full of stuff will be bad enough! But I sometimes cannot resist adding material typically are not represented on preprinted album pages. So here are some of the most recently added coil leader and trailer strips.
Don
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Ok Randy will be in post on Tuesday as public holiday Monday here in Manitoba.
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That is a really neat little collection Don! Most folks no doubt just tossed the leader strips from their rolls.
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My Mailman has been busy this week delivering more covers and stamps for my collection. This first post is a small collection of US Postal Cards. They are "Wanted, Stolen Cars" advertisements. The dates range from February 1932 to May 1936.They are all addressed to "Sheriff, Leona, Iowa. They come from Colorado, Iowa, Nebraska and Minnesota. They are all on Scott US UX27. I noticed while I was scanning these one card is smaller than the others. I'm not sure if this was the way it was issued from the Post Office. The bottom scan shows the front of a UX27.
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Nice little collection, Vince!
Would be really neat if you could relate any of these cards to activities of known criminals that were active in the Midwest in this era: John Dillinger, Bonnie & Clyde, etc...
-Paul
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What are "Tubular Bumbers"? I just might have to get some of those for my car.
Thanks Vinman, for showing us these remarkable bits of history.
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Benque,
I'm not sure what a "Tubular Bumber" is but it must be cool looking.
Here is a Folded Letter Sheet from Somerville, NJ with an intergral "5" in the CDS to the State Treasurer in Trenton, NJ. The letter is looking for information for the assessors in Hunterdon, County, NJ
This is a cover from Leominster, MA with a red "5" for 5 Cents due. The cover is sealed with "Sacred To Friendship" seal.
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1928 Essex Sedan (which, my mother tells me, was the car my grandfather owned when she was a young girl in the 1940s)
The 'tubular bumber' has to be there somewhere ....
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"I guess no one has any info about the AMG cover....!"
the return address is Camp Luitpold Barracks, which was an artillery station and later a hospital. after AMG forces took command, it became a clearinghouse for displaced Poles. (it is currently part of the Ludwigsburg Police Facilities)
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Scott,
Thanks for that bit of information!
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Example of a tubular bumper.
Don
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Here are some stamps that arrived this week.
On the top row, 1st stamp shows a Masonic Trowel, the handle is in the area Jackson's ear. 2nd is a geometric probably from Brooklyn, NY. 3RD stamp shows a compass and square also Masonic. 4th stamp has a Maltese cross.
Bottom row 1st stamp is another trowel, Masonic. 2nd & 3rd are just triangles.
The top row first three stamps are Patent Cancels, 1st stamp the inner circle cuts into the stamp design and the 2nd & 3rd have pins in the center of the cancel that cut into the stamp to help prevent reuse. The 4th stamp was sold as a Masonic cancel, four swords through three circles. This is listed in Cole's "Killers & Cancellations of the Banknote Era" GE-114 from Tiskilwa, IL. Cole's illustration shows a fourth circle at the bottom of the design. 5th stamp has a Crescent and Ball, probably Masonic. The 1st stamp second row was described as 'Serpent in Keystone", I see just a spiral in the design. The last stamp is my favorite "Man In Coffin" from Harrisburg, PA.
I have more covers to post but will wait until tomorrow when I have more time.
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These aren't new acquisitions, but I thought that some members might like to see them, especially Vinman. I found them in a small ice cream parlor/gift shop in Cottonwood, Arizona, some time in the 1980s. Note especially the two stamps at the top:
The two stamps at the top were obviously cancelled with the same device, but at different times. Notice that stamp on the right shows an apparent crack in one of the spokes; on the stamp at the right, the spoke has apparently lost its tip:
Bob
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Bob,
I do like them. A page of cancels are a nice way to enhance a collection. I tried to look up the top two cancels but no luck yet. I like the cancels showing progression of wear. I have a small collection of Springfield, MA geometric cancels showing the progression of wear.They are all nice strikes because I have them on Postal Cards. When I get a chance I'll post them.
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I picked up a 2015 edition of SG's British Commonwealth and Empire Stamps 1840-1970 off ebay.
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Phenomenal cancellations, Vince!
Thanks!
-Paul
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Here, after a certain amount of waiting - the Italian postal service not being as prompt as that of some other countries - is positively the last of the pre-war Soviet sets to make it into my album, all others being beyond my pocket:
It's a simple, but I think attractive, Postage Due set (that word 'doplata' appears on the dues from other countries, too), one of three apparently identical issued in the first month of 1925 and, according to Gibbons, the last to be issued in the USSR. The other two are either not watermarked (this one is) or lithographed (this one is typo).
A brief word about how I came about these: the set was offered at auction on Delcampe by an Italian dealer, priced extremely generously at the equivalent of a dollar or so. Clearly I was not the only collector interested, as the price kept on going up by 10 cents, which I found irritating. At one point I doubled the stakes (to roughly $7), and when that was topped by another ten cents I lost patience and redoubled. I feared 'sniping' as the closing time neared, but I was not at home at that moment, so I was surprised when I 'won' the auction at a price of around $13.
To many of you this may seem a reasonably ordinary transaction, but I must admit to a disliking of this sort of thing. I prefer to pay what a dealer specifies, and if the price is too high, I let it go. I am no good at haggling. In this case I had a suspicion that the dealer himself was upping the ante to get a better price. Perhaps not. The set catalogues (SG) at £6.50 (9USD, 11.50CAD) and since many stamps are offered at a fraction of catalogue prices maybe the dealer felt very clever at extracting 150% from me. Bravo, Signior, many of you may think, but my custom will seldom be coming his way again.
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Here are a few new additions to my cancel collection.
1st stamp US Scott #65 with numeral "3" rate marking. 2nd US #183 with a patent cancel. 3rd US 148, probably a New York Foreign Mail cancel, the reason I say probably is that there were other towns that used this type of cancel but since it is on a higher value stamp makes me think it was for foreign mail. 4th stamp US # 213 with a bottle stopper cancel. Notice the numeral "3" in the center of the cancel, it designates the stopper size. These can be found in numerals 2 1/2 up to "7".
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I rather suspect that the set was so nice that someone else decided that it would fit very well into completing their collection and you priced it beyond their reach!
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This is a response to vinman's posting where he states:
"US 148, probably a New York Foreign Mail cancel, the reason I say probably is that there were other towns that used this type of cancel but since it is on a higher value stamp makes me think it was for foreign mail"
Here is a cover I'm coveting:
Foreign mail to be sure. I'm not a rates guy, but based on this cover, I might expect the use of 6c Lincolns for foreign mail to be common. Canceling PO is a DPO about 10 miles from where I grew up, in Iowa. Interesting that the two 6c Lincoln stamps have such different colorations and centering. Definitely not torn from the same sheet. Plus, I love Banknotes, and both copies are F-VF, so I really want this cover!
Q: Does "Via Bremen" indicate the ship it was carried on, or the receiver town?
I note the Bremen cancellation in the lower left, 23-March, 1872. Is that a ship cancel? There is a round Chicago PAID cancel on the reverse in red dated March 7, and another round receiver cancellation that looks like "AUSG. No. 1" in black, but which does not have a legible date.
Seller wanted $50 for this cover. I countered $20, and got cricket-chirping noises in response...So, it's not mine...yet...
-Paul
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Bremen was a Iron Screw Steamer 3 Masts Barquentine, built by Caird & Co (Scotland) for Norddeutscher Lloyd in 1858, sold in 1874, and wrecked in 1882. She made many immigrant voyages during her life...
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Bremen is also a city in Germany. Bremen lies on both sides of the River Weser, about 60 kilometres (37 miles) upstream of its estuary on the North Sea and its transition to the Outer Weser by Bremerhaven.
Bremerhaven is a port city. I remember picking up our 1966 Plymouth Valiant in Bremerhaven upon it's arrival from the USA. And three years later depositing it back there for it's return to the USA.
Possibly in those days the port was known simply as Bremen.
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" ... I remember picking up our 1966 Plymouth Valiant in Bremerhaven
upon it's arrival from the USA ...."
Well, that brings back memories of wadering around Bremerhabven
about that time.
I was sailing on the USNS Geiger as Chief Quartermaster
and later the USNS Darby, and the USNS Comet then,
We made round trips between Bremerhaven and the
Brooklyn Army Base Piers, seven days over, about three days
in Bremerhaven, seven days back, sometimes with a short stop
in Southampton, Rotterdam, or Le Harve,
Roughly a twenty-one day round trip, crossing the Atlantic
some thrty times winter or summer. So it is possible your
treasured Plymouth Valiant was among the thousands of vehicles
we carried, safely for US servicemen and dependants..
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When i was in the service i remember guys buying VW's and shipping them home. They had to have the safety glass option for the U.S.
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Very interesting Charlie! You may have very well delivered my little Valiant. And added value, my last name is Geiger.
And what's a post without an illustration. The Valiant in Switzerland circa 1970!
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Tom will appreciate this:
My wife (then fiancée), Susan purchased a new Valiant when she graduated from Western New Mexico University in our home town, Silver City, New Mexico, in the spring of 1966. Her dad recommended the Valiant as her first car:
Susan moved out to San Diego after graduating from college so she could be near me while I was recovering from my gunshot wound, a souvenir of Vietnam. I got out of traction and into a huge and cumbersome cast soon after she arrived. Because of the cast, I could only sit sideways in the back seat while she drove. In August, we drove back to Silver City, with me sitting sideways in the back seat all the way. That was a very long drive! The next photo was taken in in 1967 near Columbia, Missouri, when I was a student at the University of Missouri.
In 1973, we moved to Prince George, BC, 800 km (500 miles) north of Vancouver, and into a winter with record snowfall. The Valiant just couldn't handle snow and ice, so we traded it in on a Jeep Wagoneer.
Bob
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Thanks Bob, that's a great story. My Valiant was purchased by my father in 1968, less than 2 years old with 8,000 easy miles on it. The dealership gave the local priest a new one every two years. My dad bought it since we left our last car in Izmir, Turkey and he was on his way to an assignment in Seoul, Korea. He needed a reliable car for my mother to drive while he was away. After that year it went with us to Germany and back to the USA transported by Charlie. In 1975 it became my first car. It was an awful beige with a red interior. In 1975 Ford was pitching the new Ford Granada as European style in a continental silver with red interior. So I painted it to match!
I held onto that car up until 2011, when I moved to Pennsylvania. It had fallen into disrepair and was out of use for a decade. Upon my move, a friend of mine wanted to turn it as a drag car, so I let him have it. I should check and see if he succeeded.
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These just in from Janet's Stamps (SOR Actions) French colonies are one of my favorite collecting areas and I really like the large airmails. The 200F Cameroons was on the cover of my first stamp album many years ago and I've always wanted one so I was especially pleased to win it and have it arrive.
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I think French stamp design beats all!
Sweden is a close second.
-Paul
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Sometimes I'm easily amused! I was trolling eBay last week and came across these precancel blocks. I thought them interesting. Obviously created by a collector at his local post office, I doubt if they saw actual postage use, but the backs are clean of gum.
With my free range album, these fit in perfectly. I am pleased.
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Hi Tom,
Are you sure that those are precancels? To my eye they look more like roller cancels.
Don
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Don- To me they look like local precancels. Note that the size is right for a definitive stamp, the images too precisely placed. I don't see these as commercially / properly used. No doubt a favor job by the local post office for a collector.
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I agree with Tom. They look like local precancels, especially since the bars at top and bottom begin and end within each stamp, and do not continue across the blocks.
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Found these in the back of a scabby old album I bought in a mixed box lot at a stamp auction last night:-
They are all very lightly mint hinged.
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"Found these in the back of a scabby old album I bought in a mixed box lot at a stamp auction last night"
Looks like a nice find considering you probably didn't pay very much for the scabby album.
Dennis
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stamperMA:-
They were the last two pages in one album that came out of a mixed box of albums, covers, loose stamps in envelopes which I paid £35.00 for.
I am an auction junkie and can't resist mixed boxes!
I don't know what it is but I have found that the last couple of pages in albums are missed by other bidders. I always look at the last pages. I once bought an album of Germany and the last page was of Queen Victoria mint hinged Zululand!!
The stamps were as clean and fresh as if they had just come off the printers press.
My Japanese dragons were found in similar circumstances as well as six Penny Blacks!!
Even the auctioneers fail to check the last couple of pages.
ALWAYS check the last couple of pages in any album for sale.
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Latest acquisition: 1865 Great Britain 6 pence (Scott #45) featuring the W. Wyon portrait of Queen Victoria (Die 2 - engraved by W. Humphrys). A 6 pence stamp would be for a letter far exceeding the 1 1/2 oz (1 pence) rate, or to a foreign country.
Heraldic Emblems watermark, 14 perforations per inch. Violet in color. Plate 5. The oval shaped cancellation tells us it was mailed in England proper or Wales. The "545" indicates it was cancelled on Neville ST., Newcastle on Tyne (Northumb).
The angle of the cancellation suggests it was stamped by a male postal worker between 40 and 45 years old, right handed. The fading and wear of the stamp is indicative of it being stored in a maple roll top desk for over 85 years, in a stamp album owned by a child of slight proportion and lilting gait, named Becky.
Purchased on eBay for £5.
Cheers.
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Wonderful informational deductions, Mr. Holmes!
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Bought these along with other things at my local Auction House today
Now I just have to find a catalogue that lists them.
I know Barefoot do one but they very seldom come up on the second hand market.
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Ian,
This might help for the India stamps;
http://www.angelfire.com/pr/perfinsoc/publicat/india/Indiarev.pdf
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Thanks musicman, the site is raising the perfin mania in me.
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Here is quite an unusual Mini Sheet on cover
Its not in the best of condition but unusual all the same.
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I returned home from a business trip to Syracuse, NY and this was waiting for my return!
US Number one Ben Franklin on cover, Boston cancel on the stamp itself. Philatelic Foundation Certificate accompanied the purchase. I do have a single used number one, but a cover was on my bucket list. So there!
I had points on my credit card that were redeemable for gift cards. In the past, I got restaurant cards. This time I noticed I qualified for a $100 eBay gift card. So I splurged!
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Very nice! Congratulations and thanks for posting the photo. Very creative use of credit card points.
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Great job Tom! I bet you're collection is really taking off.
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Gorgeous cover, Tom!
Too bad you missed yesterday's "You've Got Mail!" presentation by John Barwis. He is a GREAT speaker, and his presentation on the history of Philadelphia and the mails was truly outstanding.
He exhibited this cover there:
It's called the "B Free Franklin" cover based on his signature (look closely).
Incredible!
Read more about it here:
https://www.uspcs.org/home-page-slider/b-free-franklin/
-Paul
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I have other 'tiny' covers but this one is under 3" wide and is one of the smallest I have ever seen, I could not pass it up.
Don
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"Very creative use of credit card points. "
Yes! No more chain restaurant gift cards for me!
"Great job Tom! I bet you're collection is really taking off."
Hey Ernie! We haven't conversed in a while.. Thanks! Yes, I'm working on the Bucket List!
"oo bad you missed yesterday's "You've Got Mail!" presentation by John Barwis."
Paul, I had wanted to be there, but yesterday was the model car club meeting before our big show. We set up about 20 people on an assembly line to put together 900 goody bags!
The big show is next Saturday... www.nnleast.com
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Nice cover 51Studebaker
I have a small cover that was given to me a few tears ago.
The enclosure was a baby announcement.
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I like that 1 cent bisect - is that the proper rate for a "small" envelope?
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Two years ago my wife and I visited Lima, Peru. While there we happened across Santo Domingo church. Within that church is a chapel where Santa Rosa, the patron saint of Lima is buried.
There were a number of exhibits near by, one of which featured Peruvian stamps that featured Santa Rosa. Now, I do not collect Peru, but I thought I'd replicate that small collection as a sort of souvenir of our visit.
The following is my modest collection:
Sorry for poor resolution. As you may know this site limits the bytes you can upload.
David
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Yes I did it! I just moved the line in the sand on how much I'd ever spend on a stamp!
I know I shared here that owning Scott 1 and 2 was on my bucket list. And that I was hoping to collect much of my 19th Century USA on cover. So here we are!
I had been following this one on eBay. I was admiring it the other evening on my screen and my wife came up behind me so I said, "Guess what I'm buying?" Keep in mind I wasn't buying, just looking for the gasping reaction. Her reply, "If that's what you want for your birthday!" I was surprised. My birthday is in September but I seized the opportunity and bought it. It should arrive on Friday if you believe USPS.
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Or if you'd rather -
you can send it on to me for safe-keeping....yes??
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Quite a cover indeed. Covers were so much nicer when people had elegant handwriting. US #2 was my most expensive purchase to date as well.
Cheers,
Wine
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