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I believe these to be Russian, but correct me if I am wrong.
Can anyone tell me what year they were minted.
They are all mint unhinged.
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Horamakhet
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They are the same design of some early Russian stamps of the same period. These are from Ukraine and differ from the Russian stamps by the difference of colors. Issued in 1918.
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Ukrainian? Really?
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To my untutored gaze these are no more than SG 79 and 80, issued in 1902 (if on vertically laid paper) or in 1917 as SG122a and 124a (if on wove).
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They appear to be Russia Sc. 137 / 138.
The following varieties exist:
vertical lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 13 1/2 or perforated 13 1/2 x 13:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137) - Maroon & Light Green.
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138) - Dark Green & Pink.
vertical lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 12 1/2,:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137a) - Maroon & Light Green.
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138a) - Dark Green & Pink.
horizontal lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 13 1/2 x 13:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137b) - Maroon & Light Green.
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138b) - Dark Green & Pink.
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Scott appears to outperform Gibbons on this one. Assuming aficionados can tell from the scan that this is wove rather than vertically-laid paper, then the answer to the original question is evidently 1917.
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Hi Guthrum,
Just for fun I've added here the corresponding numbers from the SG catalogue to Jansimon's list.
The following varieties exist:
vertical lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 13 1/2 or perforated 13 1/2 x 13:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137) - Maroon & Light Green.
SG 122A light green and deep claret
SG 122Aa light green and pale claret
Also:
SG 122Ab imperf between pair
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138) - Dark Green & Pink.
SG 124Ab pink and myrtle-green (frame type II: double line)
Also:
SG 124A pink and blue-green (frame type I: single line) = Sc. 138a
and:
SG 124Aba centre and background omitted
vertical lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 12 1/2,:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137a) - Maroon & Light Green.
SG 184 light green and claret
Also:
SG 184a imperf between (pair)
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138a) - Dark Green & Pink. SG 186
SG 186 pink and myrtle-green (frame type II: double line)
horizontal lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 13 1/2 x 13:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137b) - Maroon & Light Green.
SG 190 green and brown-purple
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138b) - Dark Green & Pink.
SG 191 pink and myrtle-green (frame type II: double line)
Also:
SG 191a background and centre omitted
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Jansimon. No not really. I seemed to have had a dumb attack. I was wrongly thinking that those colors were used in Ukraine and did not check Russia (see below). Sorry, I hate giving wrong info but at least I have you guys to correct me. It was not even a hard question as to origin I have no doubt there are many of them in my duplicate folders.
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Nice Irkutsk postmark, AntoniusRa,
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thanks to all for the quick response
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To be absolutely clear: these are stamps with horizontal lozenges of varnish on the surface perforated 13 1/2 x 13. Russian specialized catalogues date the printing as being from 1919.
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Hi to all,
I believe these to be Russian, but correct me if I am wrong.
Can anyone tell me what year they were minted.
They are all mint unhinged.
Regards
Horamakhet
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re: RUSSIA WHAT YEAR?
They are the same design of some early Russian stamps of the same period. These are from Ukraine and differ from the Russian stamps by the difference of colors. Issued in 1918.
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re: RUSSIA WHAT YEAR?
To my untutored gaze these are no more than SG 79 and 80, issued in 1902 (if on vertically laid paper) or in 1917 as SG122a and 124a (if on wove).
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They appear to be Russia Sc. 137 / 138.
The following varieties exist:
vertical lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 13 1/2 or perforated 13 1/2 x 13:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137) - Maroon & Light Green.
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138) - Dark Green & Pink.
vertical lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 12 1/2,:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137a) - Maroon & Light Green.
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138a) - Dark Green & Pink.
horizontal lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 13 1/2 x 13:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137b) - Maroon & Light Green.
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138b) - Dark Green & Pink.
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re: RUSSIA WHAT YEAR?
Scott appears to outperform Gibbons on this one. Assuming aficionados can tell from the scan that this is wove rather than vertically-laid paper, then the answer to the original question is evidently 1917.
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re: RUSSIA WHAT YEAR?
Hi Guthrum,
Just for fun I've added here the corresponding numbers from the SG catalogue to Jansimon's list.
The following varieties exist:
vertical lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 13 1/2 or perforated 13 1/2 x 13:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137) - Maroon & Light Green.
SG 122A light green and deep claret
SG 122Aa light green and pale claret
Also:
SG 122Ab imperf between pair
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138) - Dark Green & Pink.
SG 124Ab pink and myrtle-green (frame type II: double line)
Also:
SG 124A pink and blue-green (frame type I: single line) = Sc. 138a
and:
SG 124Aba centre and background omitted
vertical lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 12 1/2,:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137a) - Maroon & Light Green.
SG 184 light green and claret
Also:
SG 184a imperf between (pair)
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138a) - Dark Green & Pink. SG 186
SG 186 pink and myrtle-green (frame type II: double line)
horizontal lozenges of varnish on the surface and perforated 13 1/2 x 13:
03.50 R. (1917 - Sc. #137b) - Maroon & Light Green.
SG 190 green and brown-purple
07.00 R. (1917 - Sc. #138b) - Dark Green & Pink.
SG 191 pink and myrtle-green (frame type II: double line)
Also:
SG 191a background and centre omitted
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re: RUSSIA WHAT YEAR?
Jansimon. No not really. I seemed to have had a dumb attack. I was wrongly thinking that those colors were used in Ukraine and did not check Russia (see below). Sorry, I hate giving wrong info but at least I have you guys to correct me. It was not even a hard question as to origin I have no doubt there are many of them in my duplicate folders.
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Nice Irkutsk postmark, AntoniusRa,
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thanks to all for the quick response
Horamakhet
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To be absolutely clear: these are stamps with horizontal lozenges of varnish on the surface perforated 13 1/2 x 13. Russian specialized catalogues date the printing as being from 1919.
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