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Asia/Other : Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

 

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Jansimon
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27 Feb 2017
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I am currently sorting my way through a large collection of Vietnamese stamps. Lots of different types: North Vietnam, South Vietnam, "modern" Vietnam. But I also came across a number of stamps that have as their country name Mat-Tran Dan-Toc Giai-Phong Mien-Nam Viet-Nam, sometimes abbreviated MT DT GP. This is Vietnamese for the National Liberation Front for South Vietnam or as we usually call it "Vietcong". Starting 1968 the name changed into Cong-Hoa Mien-Nam Viet-Nam which means Republic of South Vietnam, which is not the same as what we usually call South Vietnam (the USA supported southern part of the country), which was officially called Cong-Hoa Viet-Nam (Republic of Vietnam). The first Vietcong stamps were issued in 1963 and the last in 1976, when Vietnam was officially reunited under communist rule.

After this somewhat lengthy introduction my question: why are the Vietcong stamps not listed in Scott? Michel has a separate section for them as "local issues", which is of course more or less accurate since the Vietcong stamps were meant to be used in Vietcong controlled areas of South Vietnam.

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27 Feb 2017
07:07:33am
re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

SG lists theses under "National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam" as part of their Vietnam listing in SG South East Asia.

They list 79 stamps with prefix "NLF" plus a small number of varieties. They mention but don't list some imperf versions of listed stamps.

These two are SG NLF10 and SG NLF51.

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27 Feb 2017
07:42:27am

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re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

Michel lists 69 different stamps. I have not checked for varieties yet.

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michael78651

27 Feb 2017
10:45:43am
re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

FYI, Steiner has pages for the stamps.

Scott doesn't list the stamps probably because they were more local in nature, and not issued by a recognized government. They were most likely rarely postally used, and were more for propaganda purposes than anything else. However, exceptions can be found in the Scott catalog that could justify listing of these stamps. Russia Army of the North and other stamps issued by factions during the Russian Civil War, Spanish Carlist issues, Russian locals issued in Germany following WWII, etc. Just my thoughts regarding this.

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27 Feb 2017
05:00:49pm

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re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

Precisely. There are plenty of similar cases that are listed and have less legitimacy. Perhaps it's a bit of touchy subject for an American publisher...?

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michael78651

27 Feb 2017
07:44:10pm
re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

Jan, Scott does have a history of that. For example, During the Viet Nam War, East Germany issued semi-postals where the surcharge was raised to aid the North Vietnamese war effort. Scott refused to list those stamps until after the war had ended.

Until relations were normalized between the USA and the People's Republic of China, Scott did not list stamps from PRC or Mongolia (except for the few early sets).

Scott's listing policy is much more liberal now, and just about anything goes, except for revenues, most local posts and local (private) charity stamps.

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Jansimon

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27 Feb 2017
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I am currently sorting my way through a large collection of Vietnamese stamps. Lots of different types: North Vietnam, South Vietnam, "modern" Vietnam. But I also came across a number of stamps that have as their country name Mat-Tran Dan-Toc Giai-Phong Mien-Nam Viet-Nam, sometimes abbreviated MT DT GP. This is Vietnamese for the National Liberation Front for South Vietnam or as we usually call it "Vietcong". Starting 1968 the name changed into Cong-Hoa Mien-Nam Viet-Nam which means Republic of South Vietnam, which is not the same as what we usually call South Vietnam (the USA supported southern part of the country), which was officially called Cong-Hoa Viet-Nam (Republic of Vietnam). The first Vietcong stamps were issued in 1963 and the last in 1976, when Vietnam was officially reunited under communist rule.

After this somewhat lengthy introduction my question: why are the Vietcong stamps not listed in Scott? Michel has a separate section for them as "local issues", which is of course more or less accurate since the Vietcong stamps were meant to be used in Vietcong controlled areas of South Vietnam.

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27 Feb 2017
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re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

SG lists theses under "National Front for the Liberation of South Vietnam" as part of their Vietnam listing in SG South East Asia.

They list 79 stamps with prefix "NLF" plus a small number of varieties. They mention but don't list some imperf versions of listed stamps.

These two are SG NLF10 and SG NLF51.

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Jansimon

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27 Feb 2017
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re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

Michel lists 69 different stamps. I have not checked for varieties yet.

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michael78651

27 Feb 2017
10:45:43am

re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

FYI, Steiner has pages for the stamps.

Scott doesn't list the stamps probably because they were more local in nature, and not issued by a recognized government. They were most likely rarely postally used, and were more for propaganda purposes than anything else. However, exceptions can be found in the Scott catalog that could justify listing of these stamps. Russia Army of the North and other stamps issued by factions during the Russian Civil War, Spanish Carlist issues, Russian locals issued in Germany following WWII, etc. Just my thoughts regarding this.

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Jansimon

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27 Feb 2017
05:00:49pm

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re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

Precisely. There are plenty of similar cases that are listed and have less legitimacy. Perhaps it's a bit of touchy subject for an American publisher...?

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michael78651

27 Feb 2017
07:44:10pm

re: Vietnam: National Liberation Front for South Vietnam / Vietcong stamps

Jan, Scott does have a history of that. For example, During the Viet Nam War, East Germany issued semi-postals where the surcharge was raised to aid the North Vietnamese war effort. Scott refused to list those stamps until after the war had ended.

Until relations were normalized between the USA and the People's Republic of China, Scott did not list stamps from PRC or Mongolia (except for the few early sets).

Scott's listing policy is much more liberal now, and just about anything goes, except for revenues, most local posts and local (private) charity stamps.

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