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General Philatelic/Identify This? : Who's Autograph

 

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rwillis29
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04 May 2016
01:59:40pm
I know Floyd Patterson was a boxer. Anyone know who is the other Autograph is. i Think it is Alen Ginter? but i don't know who he is.
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04 May 2016
04:06:29pm
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British boxer Alan Minter, a former Undisputed World Middleweight Champion.

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04 May 2016
04:14:18pm
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Thank you it makes a difference G or a M. Blushing

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04 May 2016
06:43:12pm
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One has to wonder why in the world they would autograph a first day cover that was issued nearly 30 years before. Seems very unlikely that someone would be carrying that cover when they ran in to them. For the record, there was a boxer by the name of Nathan Rosenberg who died in 1906 after being knocked out in the ring.

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05 May 2016
06:58:14am
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Knocked out, but not by blow to the head.

Los Angeles Times, January 19, 1906. -- was a scheduled 3-rounder at George Macfadden's club. Rosenberg was hit hard over the heart, and carried to the dressing room. There, he was discovered to be dead, and the crowd (and [opponent] Kid Sis) promptly left.

It was in the 2nd round of Rosenberg's 1st fight of his career.


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TribalErnie

05 May 2016
08:45:52am
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Reminds me of Duk Koo Kim. My brother boxed in the police athletic league in Memphis and idolized Boom Boom Mancini.


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michael78651

05 May 2016
04:33:01pm
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In 1975, I had dinner with Patterson. Even then, a little over 30 years before his death from Altzheimer's, he was not able to carry much of a conversation, and his memory was spotty.

I did a quick search through his online biography to see if the date on the cover had any significance, but could not find anything.

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05 May 2016
04:49:59pm
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"I did a quick search through his online biography to see if the date on the cover had any significance, but could not find anything."



I tried to find some significance also. The closest I could come was the year 1952 being the year FP won the gold medal at the Olympics, but that occurred after June.

The only scenario I can work out is that a stamp collector who was also a boxing fan picked up that cover because of the name on it, even if it wasn't THAT NR, and thought it would be cool to add the boxers' signatures.


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06 May 2016
12:12:19pm
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That is like a cover I have addressed to Grace Kelly. No, not that Grace Kelly, it was to someplace in New Jersey or New York, but I couldn't let it slip past me.

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26 Sep 2016
04:23:59pm
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Re....Alan Minter.
FLoyd Patterson dated his autograph a month before Minter fought a title fight in Las Vegas, Nevada.
So Id speculate that he was training/acclimatising in USA when he signed the cover.

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rwillis29

04 May 2016
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I know Floyd Patterson was a boxer. Anyone know who is the other Autograph is. i Think it is Alen Ginter? but i don't know who he is.
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04 May 2016
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British boxer Alan Minter, a former Undisputed World Middleweight Champion.

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04 May 2016
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Thank you it makes a difference G or a M. Blushing

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04 May 2016
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re: Who's Autograph

One has to wonder why in the world they would autograph a first day cover that was issued nearly 30 years before. Seems very unlikely that someone would be carrying that cover when they ran in to them. For the record, there was a boxer by the name of Nathan Rosenberg who died in 1906 after being knocked out in the ring.

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05 May 2016
06:58:14am

re: Who's Autograph

Knocked out, but not by blow to the head.

Los Angeles Times, January 19, 1906. -- was a scheduled 3-rounder at George Macfadden's club. Rosenberg was hit hard over the heart, and carried to the dressing room. There, he was discovered to be dead, and the crowd (and [opponent] Kid Sis) promptly left.

It was in the 2nd round of Rosenberg's 1st fight of his career.


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TribalErnie

05 May 2016
08:45:52am

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Reminds me of Duk Koo Kim. My brother boxed in the police athletic league in Memphis and idolized Boom Boom Mancini.


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michael78651

05 May 2016
04:33:01pm

re: Who's Autograph

In 1975, I had dinner with Patterson. Even then, a little over 30 years before his death from Altzheimer's, he was not able to carry much of a conversation, and his memory was spotty.

I did a quick search through his online biography to see if the date on the cover had any significance, but could not find anything.

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youpiao

05 May 2016
04:49:59pm

re: Who's Autograph

Happy

"I did a quick search through his online biography to see if the date on the cover had any significance, but could not find anything."



I tried to find some significance also. The closest I could come was the year 1952 being the year FP won the gold medal at the Olympics, but that occurred after June.

The only scenario I can work out is that a stamp collector who was also a boxing fan picked up that cover because of the name on it, even if it wasn't THAT NR, and thought it would be cool to add the boxers' signatures.


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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
06 May 2016
12:12:19pm

re: Who's Autograph

That is like a cover I have addressed to Grace Kelly. No, not that Grace Kelly, it was to someplace in New Jersey or New York, but I couldn't let it slip past me.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
FItzjamesHorse

Collecting Ireland

26 Sep 2016
04:23:59pm

re: Who's Autograph

Re....Alan Minter.
FLoyd Patterson dated his autograph a month before Minter fought a title fight in Las Vegas, Nevada.
So Id speculate that he was training/acclimatising in USA when he signed the cover.

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