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08 Mar 2015
01:46:20pm
A lovely real photo street scene, but from where? Date likely 1909, but the "0" is missing (landed in the gap between stamps). Can anybody provide a translation of the inscription?

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08 Mar 2015
02:14:23pm

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08 Mar 2015
06:14:22pm
re: Help with a Russian postcard c1909 to Canada

The street is identified on the front of the card as Aleutskaya ulitsa in Vladivostok.

The street is still there and here is a similar building on it taken from Google Maps:

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09 Mar 2015
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re: Help with a Russian postcard c1909 to Canada

if this is 1919 and not 1909, I think there were still American, Allied, and Czech legion troops there.

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09 Mar 2015
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re: Help with a Russian postcard c1909 to Canada

Hi amsd,

I believe you're right about the date being 1919.

According to SG and Michel the 5 kopeck stamps in this design were first issued in 1912.

However, the Scott listing appears to imply a 1909 date for the 5k claret.




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09 Mar 2015
07:24:05pm
re: Help with a Russian postcard c1909 to Canada

My first impression was 1909, because of the tram, the horse-drawn carriages, but no obvious motor cars. But the link between Canada and Vladivostok would seem to put it firmly at 1919 (and maybe an old postcard).

Did you spot the romantic message to Miss Alice? It appears to say "I ♥ Holland" - which, of course, stands for Hope Our Love Lasts And Never Dies. (It would be sweet if the date stamp actually said 14.2.19, would it not? Can you see a 4 in there?) His effort at a Cyrillic 'Canada' wasn't quite right, though - the И isn't an N, it's an I. He needed КАНАДА.

What was a young Canadian doing in Vladivostok in 1919?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Siberian_Expeditionary_Force

"The Siberian Expeditionary Force was mainly Canadian, and it included No. II Canadian Stationary Hospital and No. 16 Canadian Field Ambulance. It left the graves of 14 Canadian soldiers and 14 from the United Kingdom in Churkin Russian Naval Cemetery; those of seven sailors of the Royal Navy, one Marine and one United Kingdom soldier in the Lutheran part of Pokrovskaya Cemetery; and those of ten soldiers from the United Kingdom and three from Canada at other places in Siberia."

I trust our romantic postcard-writer was not one of the 14 Canadians at Churkin, and was able to return to Alice. (Unfortunately the only Nova Scotian Alice Cruickshank I could find was married to a Mr Phinney in 1897. And she didn't come from Eureka.)

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09 Mar 2015
10:45:09pm
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Great card! The following year, Vladivostok became part of the short-lived Far Eastern Republic.

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08 Mar 2015
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A lovely real photo street scene, but from where? Date likely 1909, but the "0" is missing (landed in the gap between stamps). Can anybody provide a translation of the inscription?

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08 Mar 2015
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re: Help with a Russian postcard c1909 to Canada

The street is identified on the front of the card as Aleutskaya ulitsa in Vladivostok.

The street is still there and here is a similar building on it taken from Google Maps:

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09 Mar 2015
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re: Help with a Russian postcard c1909 to Canada

if this is 1919 and not 1909, I think there were still American, Allied, and Czech legion troops there.

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09 Mar 2015
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re: Help with a Russian postcard c1909 to Canada

Hi amsd,

I believe you're right about the date being 1919.

According to SG and Michel the 5 kopeck stamps in this design were first issued in 1912.

However, the Scott listing appears to imply a 1909 date for the 5k claret.




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09 Mar 2015
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re: Help with a Russian postcard c1909 to Canada

My first impression was 1909, because of the tram, the horse-drawn carriages, but no obvious motor cars. But the link between Canada and Vladivostok would seem to put it firmly at 1919 (and maybe an old postcard).

Did you spot the romantic message to Miss Alice? It appears to say "I ♥ Holland" - which, of course, stands for Hope Our Love Lasts And Never Dies. (It would be sweet if the date stamp actually said 14.2.19, would it not? Can you see a 4 in there?) His effort at a Cyrillic 'Canada' wasn't quite right, though - the И isn't an N, it's an I. He needed КАНАДА.

What was a young Canadian doing in Vladivostok in 1919?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Siberian_Expeditionary_Force

"The Siberian Expeditionary Force was mainly Canadian, and it included No. II Canadian Stationary Hospital and No. 16 Canadian Field Ambulance. It left the graves of 14 Canadian soldiers and 14 from the United Kingdom in Churkin Russian Naval Cemetery; those of seven sailors of the Royal Navy, one Marine and one United Kingdom soldier in the Lutheran part of Pokrovskaya Cemetery; and those of ten soldiers from the United Kingdom and three from Canada at other places in Siberia."

I trust our romantic postcard-writer was not one of the 14 Canadians at Churkin, and was able to return to Alice. (Unfortunately the only Nova Scotian Alice Cruickshank I could find was married to a Mr Phinney in 1897. And she didn't come from Eureka.)

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re: Help with a Russian postcard c1909 to Canada

Great card! The following year, Vladivostok became part of the short-lived Far Eastern Republic.

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