nice 10 pounder....
i've been told that they do NOT soak, so apparently, that's false, at least some times
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The £10 High values soak quite normally.
Here are a couple of the 25 Mil values I purchased yesterday in Tel Aviv. From a set of 7.
I won't write much about them because all the info I have gained over the time is conflicting.
Suffice to say they are Private airmail stamps by Aviron (Flying School) and PATCO (Palestine Air Transportation Company}. Date: 1937-48.
It was a birthday treat to myself....and boy, was it a treat !!
Very nice too. I suspect these are VERY scarce.
Are you able to explain why there are two different colours for the same value?
The following is a WWI military cover I bought very recently. It was sent by a serving officer in the Royal Flying Corps on 1st July 1916.
The RFC was the forerunner of the Royal Air Force (RAF).
The Field Post Office and censor have been attributed to a 'station' on the Sommes, in France. I have yet to verify this.
The date may have some historical significance:
"The Royal Flying Corps made a major contribution during the Battle of the Somme by providing British Army commanders
with vital intelligence of German positions and the progress of British troops. The official historian of the British Army
in France in 1916 stated: ‘It is difficult to over-estimate the value of aeroplane co-operation upon which the accuracy of
artillery fire so largely depended; the aeroplane photograph became an almost indispensable aid to the mapping sections;
and British superiority in the air had a remarkable moral effect upon the troops.’*
From 1 July to 17 November 1916, the RFC took over 19,000 photographs of the Somme battle area and 420,000 prints
were made for distribution to British units."
I quite enjoy these Red Cross issues. Don't know much about them but they appeal to me nonetheless.
Peter
Here is a close up of one of the backs, so the writing is clearer.
Hi Ningpo,
This appears to be the officer who sent your letter:
I should say that the extract above is from the 5th April 1917 edition of "Flight".
It looks as though this letter was sent around the time he became attached to the RFC in July 1916. Maybe this was a temporary attachment that was formalised later in the same month?
Sadly, other on-line records suggest that Lt Vernon had already been killed by 11th September 1916.
Hi Peter,
I really like your Red Cross labels and it's most appropriate to see them here given the discussion of Ningpo's letter.
I see the labels show 20 famous allied aviators but I can't make our the names. I guess allied aces like Albert Ball and Billy Bishop may be there as well of course as their French counterparts.
Peter
That's a lovely looking Red Cross item. Are you able to scan in more detail?
Nigelc
You found what I had unearthed. I was reluctant to post this as I wasn't certain about the initials.
I have found a few more details about his service record as well.
It's official: I will cut off my left hand (not my right!) in payment for Ningpo's RFC cover. Figuratively speaking, of course. It (the cover, not my hand) would make a fine addition to my Joe Hicks collection. Joe was an observer with RCAF 420 Squadron. He was killed in 1942 when his Hampden bomber crashed in Denmark following a nighttime area-bombing raid on Rostock, Germany.
A few years ago I won an award for an article titled, "Sgt. Joe Hicks and the Battle for Europe". In the article I briefly cover the history of observers. The first ones were soldiers who were carried aloft in balloons to report on enemy troop movements. As I recall, the first observers were used in the American Civil War. Early in the war, both balloons and aircraft were used to carry observers aloft. Aerial cameras were developed to photograph trenches, bunkers, troop concentrations, etc. It didn't take long for "observers" to start shooting at nearby enemy aircraft and dropping grenades and small bombs onto enemy troops below.
By the Second World War, observers were given the added responsibility of navigating to and from bombing targets, thus becoming navigators, and releasing the bombs at the right moment with the help of the Norton bombsight, thus becoming bombardiers. Depending on the size and layout of the aircraft, they might also be trained in the use of defensive machine guns. In larger aircraft such as the Lancaster and B-17, these roles were split among crew specially trained as navigators, bombardiers, or gunners.
While Canadian and British pilots got wings to wear as lapel devices or patches, observers got a single wing attached to an "O," predictably called the "Flying A_ _hole".
Bob
Thank you Bob for your enthusiastic reply. I hope to flesh out the bones of this find, if I can confirm that this is the
same Vernon.
I have just found this entry for the addressee of the cover; Hamburger Rogers & Co:
So it would seem that the young officer may have been interested in obtaining something ceremonial.
Numerous entries on the web for that company refer to various swords produced by them, as described here:
"Victorian 1827 pattern officers sword by Hamburger Rogers & Co, King Street, London, with curved blade,
34 in., original shagreen grip, wire bound, the guard with regimental crowned strung bugle, with scabbard."
Not as fascinating as the WW1 stuff, but I was happy to acquire this circa 1895 congo free state. Even better after several tries I figured out how to scan it and post it.
Tom
Well in my book the £1 PUC is a glorious stamp. Most GB collectors that I have talked to consider this the 'pinnacle of the engraver's art'. I have never heard anything to the contrary. Congratulations!
Ningpo, I'll try to get a closer scan of the French Red Cross stamp sections when I return home this weekend.
I have several recent acquisitions due to an inheritance from one of my last remaining stamp collecting relatives. With these additions, I fully complete my British Commonwealth omnibus collections.
Strange as it is, as much as I am thrilled with these additions, filling in my collection gaps this way is less satisfying than locating them, bidding or buying them, and placing them into my collection. My enjoyment of the hobby really comes from putting the work into building, maintaining, and improving it, not just acquiring more. Maybe I'm an odd collector!
Cheers,
Peter
Recently received my first Canada postage due stamps. It will make a nice starter collection. I don't intend to collect any postage dues stamps beyond the series here presented.
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I picked this up for pence at the last stamp fair I attended:
Of course it may have been a careless piece of stamp-affixing, but that inverted Hitler head implied to my suggestible imagination that the sender may not have been the most enthusiastic supporter of the Third Reich.
She was Eugenie Hilte (or possibly Hietl), of Vienna, and revealed as much together with her address on the back of the envelope, presumably because she had to by law. I rather hope she survived this piece of insolence!
By the way, can anyone direct me to definitive (or at least contemporary) evidence that inverting a Hitler head really was an act of subversion - rather than a myth cooked up in after-years?
" ... By the way, can anyone direct me to definitive (or at least contemporary) evidence that inverting a Hitler head really was an act of subversion - rather than a myth cooked up in after-years? ..."
Just after the turn of the century (early 1900s) there was a fad of sending a message by the way stamps were positioned. I recall seeing somewhere a card that explained the subtle meanings of tilting the King's head to the left or right, inverting it or placing the stamp in other than the top right corner. I'll try to find it but I am not sure where it was that I saw it.
This is probably the sort of thing you were referring to:
Here's a link to the article: Picture Postcards from the Great War
Guthrum wrote:
" By the way, can anyone direct me to definitive (or at least contemporary) evidence that inverting a Hitler head really was an act of subversion - rather than a myth cooked up in after-years?
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Here is my other big Canada purchase, a paste-up pair of admirals.
The back:
That is an outstanding pair of admirals, Antonio!
A gorgeous pair of Admirals! I just love offbeat stamps like this. If there's not a space for them in a proprietary stamp album, then I'm interested! Congratulations, too, on collecting Admirals. They're great stamps. I once started a collection of Admirals and their varieties, but soon got discouraged by colour nuances, paper types, re-entries, etc. I'm just not a flyspeck collector!
Bob
Thank you, gentlemen.
Here's an update on the following cover I posted before:
"The FPO H series were used at Corps Headquarters, initially with the number of the Post mark equating to
the Corps HQ that used it; thus FPO H13 was in use at HQ XIII Corps.
But the security changes of June 1916 that instructed all units to swap their hand stamp with other units
saw FPO H13 taken into use with HQ VI Corps between 18/6/16 to 30/9/16.
So on 1/7/16 that is where the unit post orderly took the mail to.
The Censor Mark Type 4 [Hexagon] number 3151 was in use with 23 Squadron Royal Flying Corps.
The censoring officer L G H Vernon was Second Lieutenant Leslie Godfrey Harcourt Vernon, who was killed
in action 11/9/16 serving with 23 Squadron, he is commemorated on the Arras Flying Memorial."
Yes, Ningpo, that is the idea and possibly the card I saw it on.
Bought these recently,should arrive this week and I think the price was rather low considering they have the original Postmarks from the Phil.Bureaux in Edinburgh.
Also bought this at £ 4.99,again a rather low price.
"I don't intend to collect any postage dues stamps beyond the series here presented."
Inexpensive, but attractive!
Nice stamp.
I don't know why I am always surprised when I am reminded that Romanian is a romance language.
Another nice classic stamp
Although these two stamps are 20 years apart, Chris, do I detect a theme emerging - the engraved image set within an ornate coloured border? They could have been designed by the same person! Interesting, too, that this style of design should remain popular for so long.
Recently purchased this 1896 Rhodesia stamp
I love the motto, 'Justice, Freedom, Commerce' - what a world of social history lies behind that triad! What would Robert Mugabe make of it?
The stamp suggests that this was the British approach to their colonies. No doubt the other European countries would have agreed - I do not think freedom was uppermost in the minds of those who oversaw the workers in the South African mines. Unless, of course, it was the freedom to make as much money out of the land as possible - or 'commerce', as they politely termed it. Stamps remind us of our past, and that is as it should be.
#65 with a great Fancy cancel on Patriotic cover (1862)
Great addition to my Eagle Collection
Andrew, your cover includes the year, which was fairly uncommon for the period, making it all the better. very nice cover; beautiful fancy cancel and lovely patriotic, a mere ten months into the war
A great postcard from the 1930s. The Pander Postjager was a purpose built mail plane to provide a regular mail service between the Netherlands and the Netherlands Indies. The first flight in December 1933 got as far as Italy where the aircraft was grounded with engine failure. The mail was picked up by a regular Fokker F.XII IJsvogel, which in turn got stuck in Jodhpur, British India so that the mail was finally delivered in the Indies by the Fokker F.XVIII Pelikaan.
The return flight was record breaking: in 4 days (leaving in the early hours of Dec. 27th, the airplane arrived at Dec. 30th, 10 pm at Schiphol airport)
This card shows all the stages in its cancels as well as a special Postjager cancel.
This surely must be a very scarce card, as only one of this aircraft type was ever built.
This all wooden purpose built 'mail plane' only had a short lifespan.
From what I can decipher, the aircraft, which was renamed the Pander Hunter, was destroyed during take off on 26th October 1934, during the London-Melbourne air race.
Apparently as a result of complete confusion with the aerodrome lighting, the plane hit an ambulance towed beacon trolley at 160 kmh, as it lifted from the runway.
2000 gallons of aviation fuel and a wooden aircaft was a lethal mixture!
Jan-Simon, have you been able to find out how many items of mail were carried on the two legs of the inaugural flight? And was this the only mail run it did? If so, why was this mail run abandoned?
The card is not scarce, although it may take a while to find a copy. I have a nearly identical one, and a couple of years ago Roy Lingen, iirc, offered me one.
The mail route was not abandoned at all. It became a mainstay of KLM's business. That triangular airmail stamp was required for mail on special flights, such as the London-Melbourne MacRobertson race that Ningpo mentions; my understanding is that KLM got 100% of the funds from the sale of the stamps.
The first foreign company to buy a Douglas DC-2 was KLM. That aircraft, named Uiver ("Stork" in Old Dutch) won the handicap division of the MacRobertson race, flying the same route that it would fly on subsequent commercial flights from Netherlands to Java, at that time a Dutch colony. Sadly, the Uiver crashed in the Syrian Desert near Rutbah Wells on its first commercial flight, killing everyone on board (four passengers and three crew). At the time, a giant system of thunderstorms was pouring most of the Middle East. The only investigation of the crash was carried out by KLM, which to this day does not publicly acknowledge the crash and has never released the findings of the investigation.
Other DC-2s were purchased and began plying the same route on a regular basis, and in 1937 were replaced by DC-3s.
Bob
Off to the Strand Stamp Fair this morning - first fair for several months. Not entirely successful, either. That late 1944 Polish set, unprepossessing to look at but the first after liberation, which was going for £70-odd last summer, is double that now. I did get the two used Gibraltar 1953 top values I thought I needed, for £36, but when I got home I found I already had them! (Have you ever done that? Of course you haven't!) So all I came home with was this:
I liked the block, of course, and the implication that it had been done especially for Fraulein Elisabeth - perhaps a little girl who collected stamps. What also struck me was the mismatch between the festive holiday cancel (St Wolfgang is a picturesque resort by an Austrian lake) and the date, which is getting a little late in the day for the Third Reich.
Elisabeth (can anyone tell me her surname from that cover?) lived at Waitzstrasse 21, Kiel. Today that is in a large block of post-war flats set back from the main road; I suspect it would have looked very different in 1945. Wikipedia says:
"Because of its status as a naval port and as production site for submarines, Kiel was heavily bombed by the Allies during World War II. The bombing destroyed more than 80% of the remaining old town, 72% of the central residential areas, and 83% of the industrial areas. During the RAF bombing of 23/24 July 1944, Luftwaffe fighters tried to intercept the spoof (i.e. decoy) force instead of the main force attacking Kiel, and there was no water for three days; trains and buses did not run for eight days and there was no gas available for cooking for three weeks. There were several bombing raids of the port area during the period 20 February – 20 April 1945 which successfully eliminated many U-Boats, and the few large warships (cruisers Hipper, Scheer, and Koln) still afloat at that time."
So maybe this envelope (now sealed, no letter inside) provided some comfort for Elisabeth, with its block of four, and perhaps a memory of a childhood holiday by the lake.
"Have you ever done that?"
What is an " ... ambulance towed beacon trolley ..." ???
I just had to ask as it seemed to be an interesting phrase.
Won these last Sunday during the auction at The Stamp Forum.
One beacon trolley; as published on www.aviacrash.nl:
Apparently this was the mobile airfield lighting beacon, used at Allahabad primarily as a searchlight. On the occasion of the crash, the trolley was towed by an ambulance.
I didn't mention that all the crew were walking wounded with burns but one of the beacon mechanics lost both legs.
It has taken me FOREVER, but I finally scored on a nice wad of USED Eastern Silesia.
Nice Cinderella's Zipper - beautifully engraved.
Czeslaw Slania engraving
At the top, we have Brazil Scott 3CL1-3, issued Nov. 9, 1927, by Varig, Brazil's first national airline. Bottom is Germany Sanabria 34a, a se-tenant pair from a booklet issued July 14, 1931.
Varig is now part of Gol Airlines, according to Wikipedia. Its full name was Sociedade Anônima Empresa de Viação Aérea Rio-Grandense, which Google translates as Anonymous Society of Air Traffic Company Riograndense. An alternative translation for Anonymous Society is Joint Stock Company. That makes more sense.
The Brazilian stamps came from Paradise Valley Stamp Co. in the United States. The German pair is from Sandafayre, in Britain.
Ed Foster
Interesting Brazil airmail history
The stamps were initially made in Germany for Condor Airlines
Varig was given the southernmost area of Brazil to operate in at basically the same time period as Condor.
Varig had close ties to Condor & they used their stamps with an overprint.
There are dozens of variations of these overprints and many errors - some quite valuable.
Shortly thereafter Condor published a second series with SYNDICATO CONDOR on the stamps.
Then they changed the values and overprinted them also with many more errors.
Condor went on to become an international airline.
If I remember right, the Varigs were discontinued in 1934 when both airlines used government airmails
"I don't know why I am always surprised when I am reminded that Romanian is a romance language."
Zipper, that set of ten "Eaton's Fine Letter Paper labels were issued during, or for, the New York World's Fair in 1939. My folks attended, despite the fact that my mother was very pregnant in the fall of 1939, (Yes, with yours truly -11/22/39 ) and they had a set of them, some forks and spoons with the WW Fair emblem and a metal molding (stamping ???)of the Trylon and Perisphere that was the fair's symbol of peace and hope of the future.
They had the ten labels mounted on a separate blank page of their old blue late 1930s Scott world wide album.
These were from my uncle's collection. I covered his name during scanning.
These arrived today.
Anyone know anything about this postmark? Can't find it on Google.
Love the colors on this.
Zipper
Would you send me a scan or do I have permission to lift this image from StampoRama, maybe just maybe (no promise) I can enhance this cancel for you.
Now teach me how you search Google for a cancellations? I need to learn this skill.
Thanks in Advance
DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED
Take what you like.
I googled many variations: Michigan postmarks, Michigan negative postmarks, negative postmarks, etc.
Bee See, cool stuff. I, too, am starting to collect castles. Some S O's are on their way.
CDJ, that stamp is one of my favorites. Perhaps I should do a Vario page of them. Am now trying to assemble a page of 2 pence Blues. Cool that you were at the fair.
Hey zipper
What are those? Souvenirs from a stamp show? They're gorgeous
They're Cinderellas from a large, international stamp show in 1926 (horizontal stamp), and in 1936 (three vertical stamps), in New York. My favorite city.
An attractive group of GB 1st class Machins, including the pane of four from the Berlin Airlift booklet. Just a shame that so often mailers are ruined by that horrible parcel tape. I guess I will have to remove these, as the oil in the tape's gum will in time bleed through.
Zipper
I lifted your image of your cover, tried several enhancements, nothing worked this time. Enhancements of a post mark is a hit or miss type of thing. Sometimes it works real good, or some time only half good. In this case nothing helped. Even tried reverse video.
Sorry I could not help.
I noticed the return address was St. Johns Michigan. I was stationed at Wurthsmith AFB back in the 60's, dated a girl living in St. Johns.
DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED
Thanks for trying.
i owe my collection of modern Canada and Canadian sheetlets used to benefactors in Canada. These were on a package arrived yesterday !
Arrived today, my first penny black.
Congrats! I like how the cross has framed Vickie's face!
These two came by post this morning.
They are Soviet Airmails - the writing looks like 'Abuanorma' but is in fact 'Aviaposta' - by different designers. The green 2r. shows 'Aeroplane over landscape' (Stanley Gibbons), or 'mountain stream' (Journal of Russian Philately). The 1r. is more interesting: it shows 'Aeroplane over coastline' (SG), or even 'over the Don river' (JRP).
Actually I think it shows a Japanese print, or a detail from a print - I thought Hiroshige, but a correspondent on another part of this website, who I think knows more about these things than me, demurs. Whatever the case, I have not been able to identify it. The words at lower left read "Farthest East" - presumably the extent to which Aeroflot was pleased to go back in 1955.
So, do designers use artworks from other countries without attributing them, and how cheeky is that? Or has Mr Dubasov (Goznak's Head Artist at the time) actually rendered his own 'Japanese' illustration - in the style of Hiroshige?
Somehow, I don't think I'll find out any time soon! (But please, if you are interested in design and designers, see my articles on Dubasov in the appropriate section of this site as and when they are published.)
Hi Guthrum,
The words at the bottom left of the first "aviapochta" stamp are "dalnii vostok" or "far east".
I agree that the designer is suggesting a Japanese style.
It certainly isn't the Don river!
Just won !
This arrived today: 1976 North Vietnam cover to East Germany, franked with a stamp picturing "Tanks liberating Da Nang":
There's one interesting attribute of this cover that I haven't seen before: The "airmail stripes" around the edge were pasted onto the cover after, obviously, being cut from an airmail envelope.
I spent one night in hospital in Da Nang, in March, 1966. I had spent a couple of days on hospital ship U.S.S. Haven, where I had surgery for a gunshot wound to my right thigh.
I was flown by helicopter to Da Nang, and was evacuated on a C-131 Hercules to Clark AFB in the Philippines:
The next day, then after another night at Clark, back to the States in a C-141, at that time the largest aircraft in the world:
This photo shows the interior of the C-141, fitted out as a hospital plane, just like it was when I was a "guest"; I was one very sick puppy and don't remember a lot about the flight:
It's kinda hard to get my head around the fact that we worked really hard, and lost a lot of good men, trying to secure South Vietnam against the "communist hoard," and 10 years later it was all over, with nothing gained at all, except the knowledge that we did our best in an impossible situation. I well remember realizing, after only 24 days in South Vietnam, that we Americans had no business being there.
Bob
Canada
Scott 125ii
Blue Green shade
Coil pair
(Responding to the North Vietnam cover post)
Bob, one interesting point about your cover is who might have sent it from Hanoi to the family Hasenpusch in Kirchmoser. A quick check on the internet tells me that Kirchmoser did a certain amount of tank repair for the Red Army in the DDR days, and that Fritz Hasenpusch was well-known in canoeing circles(!). Today there's are Hasenpusches from Kirchmoser on Facebook.
So, was there a Hasenpusch in Hanoi in 1976 (and what was he doing), or is this a Vietnamese letter-writer staying in touch with a German family?
An interesting post, Guthrum. East Germany and North Vietnam had quite close ties before, during, and after the Vietnam War. Many North Korean students went to East Germany to study in various disciplines, and East Germany undertook many social programs in North Vietnam, including the the construction of hospitals. East Germany also issued several stamps in support of North Vietnam during the war. Here's a DDR cover posted to Canada in 1971:
It's what could be called a "para-philatelic" cover. The sender, an East German philatelist, carried on a correspondence for a time with the recipient, a member of my stamp club.
The North Vietnamese used Chinese Type 62 light tanks:
Perhaps East Germany offered technical and military help to the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam).
Bob
H.M.S. Carinthia, a British was a passenger ship that had been converted to an Armed Merchant Cruiser. On June 6, 1940, it was torpedoed U-46, about 50 miles west of the Aran Islands in Galway Bay in Ireland. Although several emergency vessels came to its aid, and it was taken under tow by two British rescue tugs, it sank the next day before reaching safety. Two officers and two ratings died in the attack.
The British rescue tug H.M.S. Bandit had been dispatched from the British naval base at Rosyth, Fife, Scotland to assist Carinthia, but a radio message changed its assignment to assist another British merchant vessel, S.S. Eros, which had been torpedoed north Ireland on June 7 by another German submarine, U-48.
H.M.S. Carinthia, a British passenger ship that had been converted to an Armed Merchant Cruiser. On June 6, 1940, it was torpedoed U-46, about 50 miles west of the Aran Islands in Galway Bay in Ireland. Although several emergency vessels came to its aid, and it was taken under tow by two British rescue tugs, it sank the next day before reaching safety. Two officers and two ratings died in the attack.
The British rescue tug H.M.S. Bandit had been dispatched from the British naval base at Rosyth, Fife, Scotland to assist Carinthia, but a radio message changed its assignment to assist another British merchant vessel, S.S. Eros, which had been torpedoed north Ireland on June 7 by another German submarine, U-48. Eros, however, was leading a charmed life. Although the ship was sinking, Bandit reached her, got a line aboard, and beached her on Tory Island in the Republic of Ireland (which lead to some interesting diplomatic contortions, since Ireland was neutral).
I’ve managed to obtain three covers that were salvaged from Eros, as as well as a photograph that I obtained from the National Maritime Museum in London. Here's an Eros cover, and the photograph:
There’s much more to Eros’’story, but this post is about Carinthia.But the postcard, which I received today from a dealer in Australia, is the first artifact of Carinthia that I have found.
Bob
I could not resist this cover, which has two of my interests: Victorian era stamps, and ship postal usage. The red seals on the back are a bit annoying to be honest, as the color transfers, so I have to keep it in a clear cover.
Peter
I LOVE wax seals on old letters!
I wish I had the letter from the envelope! Who can't love covers? So much history and interesting finds.
Peter
I found this Czech cancelled to order sheet today at my local stamp fair. I just thought the stamps were great designs, and those wonderful sepia-tone cancels. The Czechs really have produced some wonderful stuff over the years.
This set me back the princely sum of 10 pence (15 cents):
At long last, my Portugal 1910 King Manuel II page is complete.
Aaah, the satisfaction of waiting for that last empty slot until the time is right!
No I am not going to try for an all Mint page. I am done, except for planning to add the extra stamps to my next Portugal Approval Book (not self promoting!).
Not the prettiest page, but just the same...
rrr...
I have some acquisitions from this afternoon but first an explanation..i went to the monthly stamp show in Troy N.Y. with no expectations but to pass the time..as luck would have it a fellow came in with many boxes of netherlands covers...he was selling the higher end covers..$75 to 125 types to a dealer...i asked if his boxes contained any Dutch Indies..he said "they are in there...5 dollars accross the board". I said i am buying !!! Here is what i picked up for 50 bucks today...11 scans !!!
first is opening flight from Java to Sydney !!!
#2 a censored metered advertising cover from 1940 !
#3 a registered letter to New York also 1940 but no censor !
oops moved too quickly..here the pic !
registered cover to New York with censor tape !
a small airmail envelope to Holland !!
six a blank and white dutch indies postcard !!
Another censored to New York..1941 time is running out !!
Postcard from 1897 with a squared circle postmark !!
postal card with squared circle postmark from 1900
another Java to Australia cover
lastly a cover from Holland to the Dutch Indies...the dealer purchased like $2500 worth from the guy and they are going back to the Netherlands,,,perhaps phil the cheapskate should have purchased more..but these will keep me for a while !
What is the Z.O.Z marking
Hi smauggie,
It's short for "zie ommezijde", Dutch for "PTO" or "see overleaf".
As a collector of EFOs, I could not resist these at a local auction!
George
big george, thats pretty good ! smauggie heres the ZOZ or as we used to say in Brooklyn the udder side !!!
Thank you Nigel and Phil. Of course, the other side had more postage and the address. That makes sense.
i should have asked my wife..but Nigel answered it !!!
Big George, those are great. Immediately reminded me of doing a page of cartoons with stamps back in the 1970's. Wish I could find and post them. The only one I remember was taking a bunch of the 4 cent Mercury stamps and placing them together so that it formed a complete Earth with 8 or 12 Mercury capsules in orbit. The captions said something about how crowded space is becoming. I've recreated the visual here using PowerPoint, but I still want to find the original!
Here is a nice one I received yesterday. I will keep this as it is for several reasons, one being the suspicion that there will not be many in good genuinely used condition.
Another reason is of course the wonderful addressing
Thought I'd add on to the end of this old thread. My latest acquisition which arrived in the mail today is a TL:
This has gone straight to the Penny Black Page.
Have a look through the earlier posts on this thread. There are some great stamps and covers there.
Regards ... Tim
Congrats, Tim. Nice example.
As usual on our trip to Bellefonte i purchased a whole bunch of covers...but i think this booklet of Danish locals was my favorite purchase.
I really like the fancy cancels. Some of them really obscure the stamp but who really cares? Those cancels are amazing, thanks for showing them! I have a few but some of yours are incredible! Thanks again!!
Beautiful, Vince - I'm jealous!
Stamp arrived to my home in October 10, 2023. Great Britain, Queen Victoria, 2sh, (JF) Plate 1 used in the British Post Office in Danish West Indies (St. Thomas), Canceled with "C 51". Opened: Jan/ 1809, Stamps supplied July 3, 1865 and Closed: Sept/1/1877, Closed for receiving mail in Transit 1879. (Scott Danish A31)
Excellent find Rodolfo. It looks like it is in good condition too.
Tim
Thanks Tim, yes, it is in very god condition, not have thins or bend although it has a somewhat short perf.at the bottom in the right corner, but it is very difficult to get them in those conditions.
Rodolfo
I have two recent ones... the first is a Dutch card memorial for the 50th anniversary of the crash of the K-L-M Uiver.
My second recent one is a Paraguay set on cover honoring F.D.R.
Ah, a “teachable moment"!
Philb said, "I have two recent ones... the first is a Dutch card memorial for the 50th anniversary of the crash of the K-L-M Uiver."
Sorry, Phil, 'taint so. The Douglas DC-2 Uiver, which meant Stork in Old Dutch, or so I am told, was the first DC-2 to be sold by Douglas to a European airline. The purchaser was Royal Dutch Airlines, which we know simply as KLM; Albert Plesman, president of KLM, personally ordered DC-2s for his airline during a trip to the Douglas plant in California in 1934. The Uiver was intended to start flying a regular route between Amsterdam and Java in the Dutch East Indies.
Before the Uiver started its regular passenger and mail service, KLM entered it in the handicap division of the MacRobertson international air race from London to Melbourne, in October, 1934. Even though the plane flew what was to be its regular route, landing at more airports than required by the race rules, and despite an unplanned emergency landing at night, during a thunderstorm, on a racetrack at Albury in New South Wales, the Uiver still finished first in the race’s handicap division. This is a contemporaneous photo from my collection, showing the Uiver landing at Melbourne:
The Uiver’s triumphant return to Netherlands was greeted with near hysteria by Dutch crowds and media. The souvenir sheet which Philb purchased commemorates the Uiver’s winning of the race, not its subsequent crash. In fact, the Uiver's crash has never even been acknowledged by KLM, and has certainly been ignored by Dutch postal authorities although the DC-2 is featured on several stamps of Netherlands and its colonies (as is the immediate descendant of the DC-2, the much better known DC-3.
The Uiver’s crash occurred quite early in its first commercial flight, which had been billed as a “Fast Christmas Flight”. It was carrying thousands of special event covers, picturing the Uiver flying through a Christmas wreath and intended to be returned by the recipients to the senders, franked with Dutch East India stamps. The Uiver left Amsterdam on December 19, 1934, landing that night at Cairio for fuel and food, and then taking off for Baghdad. It never arrived.
The next morning, Royal Air Force search planes found the Uiver’swreckage, scattered over the Syrian Desert near Rutbah Wells. The mangled wreckage was burned, and its four crew and three passengers were dead:
No formal crash investigation was carried out, and no cause was ever determined. A huge series of storm cells covered most of the Middle East that night; it's possible the Uiver was struck by lightning. Pilot fatigue was a possible cause. KLM pilots had been in contentious labour negotiations with Plesman, and the pilot had first refused to take the flight because of the likelihood of winter storms over the desert, but he was told he would be fired if he didn’t take the flight. During the Depression, steady jobs for pilots were few and far between.
Much of the mail was salvaged, but much of it was damaged by rain, mud, oil, smoke, and fire. Here’s the first Uiver cover I obtained, from a friend, Ben Guilliamse,* whose father had posted the letter to a friend in Java:
Bob
* Ben was killed in 2004 when his Cessna apparently stalled shortly after takeoff from the airport at Prince George, British Columbia. He had earned his pilot's license after retiring as a BC Telephone company technician and was carrying supplies to a hunting camp in northern BC. I miss him.
I received these stamps in the mail today in the mail, from Weeda Stamps Ltd. of Victoria, British Columbia; the stamps picturing Leonardo’s proposed flying machine will complement the two beautiful used, CDS copies I recently bought on eBay:
Weeda offered these stamps in their almost-weekly list of deeply discounted specials. For many years, Weeda was a “flagship” walk-in, brick-and-mortar store here in Vancouver, offering weekly bidboard and over-the-counter sales. A few years ago they closed shop, moved to Victoria, and reopened as an auction-only company specializing in Canadian stamps, covers, and collections, and box lots, but always offering some enticing world-wide material. Here’s the link to Weeda’s current bidboard auction.
The envelope my new stamps arrived in must surely establish some new benchmark for impressive franking and cancellation (with a personalized — corporatized? — CDS canceller):
Bob
Bob, i guess i was only going by the picture on the card the plane on the card had K L M on the belly.
Just received this afternoon, early days of research ahead!
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Of my last acquisitions; Great Britain, Queen Victoria, 2sh, Plate 1 with wing margin, 1867 Issue - Nothing like a Clear Profile of this other beautiful very fine to superb used stamp.
Here are some items I picked up at "UNEXPO' held at APRL this past Friday & Saturday, Small show with five dealers and exhibits.
Some fancy cancels from Henry Gitner.
Here are two tiny covers, the top measures 108 x 41mm and the bottom 80 x 86mm.
I couldn't resist the "Rough & Ready" cancel from California. This shows I am not a cover snob with fading on most of the cover front.
I like this cover because it it an early meter from National Cash Register.
Illeagle use and Auxiliary marking.
Bold Maltese Cross from New York City.
Missent from Oneida, NY to Lawrence, MA and forwarded to Lancaster, MA.
Purple saw tooth CDS from Geauga county, OH.
This is an unopened pack of hinges. This will be added to my ephemera collection of perf gauges, letter openers and hinges.
Nice material Vince!
Don
why was the postal stationary rejected? had it already been X'd out? how would they know if it has a machine cancel? Just curious; i'd pick that up, too, regardless of the answer.
Here is a scan of the back of that card.
This card is not a prepaid card. My guess is that the card had a Postal Stationary 4c added to try and pay the postage and it was caught by the delivery person after it was machine cancelled but before delivery.
The fact that the sender cut the postage off the stationary envelope and pasted it onto the card?
BTW, I delivered phone books when I was in my late teens, maybe 1977.
Also SON canx.
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NCR meters on cover are scarce!
Smauggie,
I don't actively collect meters but I knew it was unusual so added it to my collection. I always have an eye out for the unusual. Sometimes I'm not sure of what I'm looking for but know when I find it.
My Mail Carrier had some goodies for me today.
This Fire Insurance cover came from Phil B. to add to my Fire, Fire Fighting and insurance collection. Thanks Phil!
These two are folded letters. First is a free frank from Lyman Burgess, PM Milton, Vermont 8/10/1828-8/15/1839. Letter talks about settling an estate.
The lower folded letter is from Concordn NH and is an offer to loan money to the Mayor of Manchester, NH
These two covers are additions to my Pointing Finger and Auxillary Markings collection.
Vinman- nice covers with the pointing fingers and auxiliary markings. Two thoughts/questions:
1. Wonder about the stamped “addressee convicted of mail fraud” - seems like way more information than should be shared publicly. Do you have others like this?
2. Why would the second cover require foreign postage rate when it was sent to Washington DC? Don’t know how foreign service mail worked back then - wouldn’t it have been combined with others in some kind of diplomatic pouch?
Thanks for continuing to share your finds. Very much enjoy seeing what you discover
About the first pointing finger - why does it say ".. convicted de mail fraud"? Not "of mail fraud". It's not from Canada/Quebec.
I believe it says "OF" just like the Long Beach one above (from the Stamp Smarter Pointing Hand database)
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After some bit of research I have come up with some information that may be of interest.
1) Concerning the letter posted at Pasadena California - according to the US Postal Bulletin, dated January 29, 1953:
"Letters (either surface or air mail) and packages (surface only) for American Government official personnel in foreign countries, addressed in care of the Departments of State, the Army, Navy, or Air Force, Washington, D. C, for onward dispatch through the facilities of those departments, must be prepaid at the appropriate international rate to the country in which the addressee is stationed."
2) Concerning the letter posted at Ventura, California - from time to time, US Postal Bulletins also provide directions for "Unlawful" mail and this may have been one such instance. I don't know what US Postal Bulletin is referenced in that case, but one such example from the bulletin dated January 29, 1953, was as follows:
"INSTRUCTIONS OF HEARING EXAMINERS - DOMESTIC "UNLAWFUL" ORDER NOTICES
"Unlawful" orders have been issued against the persons and concerns named below. All mail addressed to these persons and concerns at the addresses indicated should be returned to senders, stamped "Unlawful—Mail to this address returned by order of the Postmaster General" and no money order in favor of said persons or concerns shall be paid. These orders are to be enforced at the offices of address and delivery.
State City Name covered by order - California, Chula Vista, The Keyhole; The Keyhole Publishing Company; State News Co.; P. O. Box 219."
Hope this is of help.
Smaier and Strider,
I picked the covers up because they were different and I planned to do some research on them. So far I came up empty handed other than The Auxillary Mrkings site does have the "Addressee convicted of mail fraud." Thank you Don for showing the cover from The Stamp Smarter site. I did check out Stamp Smarter and http://www.uspostalbulletins.com/Home.as ... regarding the second cover and also came up empty handed.
I enlarged the "DE" on the second cover and it looks like "DE" but I have to agree with Don that it is "OF" because that makes sense.
Thank you Don and Terry for you research on these. Information I will copy and put with the covers.
Vince
Very good, Vince... My thought is that the Postal Service probably kept a list of all persons convicted of postal fraud and that the "Addressee convicted of mail fraud" marking was applied to any such item that appeared in the system. I would suppose until the person served their sentence they were not allowed to use the postal system for any purpose, i.e. sending or receiving mail, or obtaining/cashing postal money orders etc. Also, such a marking would not be considered "to much information", as the conviction would be a matter of public record.
Recieved these German stamps yesterday. 3 Horizontal booklet pairs of the Wagner set from 1933.
Also a used block of four from the costume set from 1934.
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Back before the Internet, a friend of mine had ordered something questionable by mail. He got back his sealed envelope (with check inside) inside a larger envelope from the postal inspectors. It said box closed / fraud and as he put it, "A letter explaining how stupid he was!" I had no thought to save it back then!
Terry, Don, and Vince - thanks for the information. Very interesting
Of my last adcquisitions now in my Collection: 1 Penny Black, Plate 4 was registered on 19 May 1840, (IC) - Stamp with Open Top N.E. Square, Double Letters with typical dots in check letters square and Re-entries (above of POSTAGE and below of ONE PENNY. Light Postmark of Maltese Cross in red.
Tim, with this stamp now is complete our first row in the Penny Black Page.
If possible please add arrows to show Re-entries, I do not see them?
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I received this in the mail on Friday. It is over 800 pages.
Doug
I received these yesterday.
I bought this. Is it genuine? The cover doesn't look like it's ever been used. Is it a favour cancel?
PS - sorry about huge border - I couldn't work out how to crop the image.
Hi Charlie
I thought for a minute that this was you showing that you had one exactly the same - thus proving it's a forgery! But now I think you're just very helpfully improving on my scan by cropping it. Thanks for that!!
Here's a better scan! Can anyone tell me why these stamps on covers very like this one are everywhere on ebay - many seemingly never postally used?
Have i bought a pup, as my old grannie used to say?
The stamp of the right (Uruguay SC C9) was valid only on day of issue for special flight Montevideo-Rincón according to Colnect. The stamps were affixed and hand cancelled by postal clerks before the flight.
Yes, Gibbons says the same. I guess I've just bought a blatantly philatelic item, instead of the postally used cover I was hoping for. Heigh ho! At least, it was a very cheap item.
I'll show a scan later but I got a very difficult stamp to find from my stamp dealer in the mail today. It's one of those boring "dated greens" but RD312 is difficult to find. I'll have a friend scan it for me tomorrow, even though it isn't much to see, and post that tomorrow!
EDIT: My US Harris Liberty album only had a selection of dated reds and dated greens. I was lucky enough to find sets of pages for each! So now I can try to find them all!! I still think they're boring and ugly but at least I have spaces for them!!
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This arrived just yesterday; a GB 1993 £10 braille high value. Some of the braille raised dots are just visible. I bought this because I love the design and that it had actually been through the post. The 1p Machin is here for scale:
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nice 10 pounder....
i've been told that they do NOT soak, so apparently, that's false, at least some times
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The £10 High values soak quite normally.
Here are a couple of the 25 Mil values I purchased yesterday in Tel Aviv. From a set of 7.
I won't write much about them because all the info I have gained over the time is conflicting.
Suffice to say they are Private airmail stamps by Aviron (Flying School) and PATCO (Palestine Air Transportation Company}. Date: 1937-48.
It was a birthday treat to myself....and boy, was it a treat !!
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Very nice too. I suspect these are VERY scarce.
Are you able to explain why there are two different colours for the same value?
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The following is a WWI military cover I bought very recently. It was sent by a serving officer in the Royal Flying Corps on 1st July 1916.
The RFC was the forerunner of the Royal Air Force (RAF).
The Field Post Office and censor have been attributed to a 'station' on the Sommes, in France. I have yet to verify this.
The date may have some historical significance:
"The Royal Flying Corps made a major contribution during the Battle of the Somme by providing British Army commanders
with vital intelligence of German positions and the progress of British troops. The official historian of the British Army
in France in 1916 stated: ‘It is difficult to over-estimate the value of aeroplane co-operation upon which the accuracy of
artillery fire so largely depended; the aeroplane photograph became an almost indispensable aid to the mapping sections;
and British superiority in the air had a remarkable moral effect upon the troops.’*
From 1 July to 17 November 1916, the RFC took over 19,000 photographs of the Somme battle area and 420,000 prints
were made for distribution to British units."
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I quite enjoy these Red Cross issues. Don't know much about them but they appeal to me nonetheless.
Peter
Here is a close up of one of the backs, so the writing is clearer.
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Hi Ningpo,
This appears to be the officer who sent your letter:
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I should say that the extract above is from the 5th April 1917 edition of "Flight".
It looks as though this letter was sent around the time he became attached to the RFC in July 1916. Maybe this was a temporary attachment that was formalised later in the same month?
Sadly, other on-line records suggest that Lt Vernon had already been killed by 11th September 1916.
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Hi Peter,
I really like your Red Cross labels and it's most appropriate to see them here given the discussion of Ningpo's letter.
I see the labels show 20 famous allied aviators but I can't make our the names. I guess allied aces like Albert Ball and Billy Bishop may be there as well of course as their French counterparts.
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Peter
That's a lovely looking Red Cross item. Are you able to scan in more detail?
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Nigelc
You found what I had unearthed. I was reluctant to post this as I wasn't certain about the initials.
I have found a few more details about his service record as well.
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It's official: I will cut off my left hand (not my right!) in payment for Ningpo's RFC cover. Figuratively speaking, of course. It (the cover, not my hand) would make a fine addition to my Joe Hicks collection. Joe was an observer with RCAF 420 Squadron. He was killed in 1942 when his Hampden bomber crashed in Denmark following a nighttime area-bombing raid on Rostock, Germany.
A few years ago I won an award for an article titled, "Sgt. Joe Hicks and the Battle for Europe". In the article I briefly cover the history of observers. The first ones were soldiers who were carried aloft in balloons to report on enemy troop movements. As I recall, the first observers were used in the American Civil War. Early in the war, both balloons and aircraft were used to carry observers aloft. Aerial cameras were developed to photograph trenches, bunkers, troop concentrations, etc. It didn't take long for "observers" to start shooting at nearby enemy aircraft and dropping grenades and small bombs onto enemy troops below.
By the Second World War, observers were given the added responsibility of navigating to and from bombing targets, thus becoming navigators, and releasing the bombs at the right moment with the help of the Norton bombsight, thus becoming bombardiers. Depending on the size and layout of the aircraft, they might also be trained in the use of defensive machine guns. In larger aircraft such as the Lancaster and B-17, these roles were split among crew specially trained as navigators, bombardiers, or gunners.
While Canadian and British pilots got wings to wear as lapel devices or patches, observers got a single wing attached to an "O," predictably called the "Flying A_ _hole".
Bob
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Thank you Bob for your enthusiastic reply. I hope to flesh out the bones of this find, if I can confirm that this is the
same Vernon.
I have just found this entry for the addressee of the cover; Hamburger Rogers & Co:
So it would seem that the young officer may have been interested in obtaining something ceremonial.
Numerous entries on the web for that company refer to various swords produced by them, as described here:
"Victorian 1827 pattern officers sword by Hamburger Rogers & Co, King Street, London, with curved blade,
34 in., original shagreen grip, wire bound, the guard with regimental crowned strung bugle, with scabbard."
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Not as fascinating as the WW1 stuff, but I was happy to acquire this circa 1895 congo free state. Even better after several tries I figured out how to scan it and post it.
Tom
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Well in my book the £1 PUC is a glorious stamp. Most GB collectors that I have talked to consider this the 'pinnacle of the engraver's art'. I have never heard anything to the contrary. Congratulations!
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Ningpo, I'll try to get a closer scan of the French Red Cross stamp sections when I return home this weekend.
I have several recent acquisitions due to an inheritance from one of my last remaining stamp collecting relatives. With these additions, I fully complete my British Commonwealth omnibus collections.
Strange as it is, as much as I am thrilled with these additions, filling in my collection gaps this way is less satisfying than locating them, bidding or buying them, and placing them into my collection. My enjoyment of the hobby really comes from putting the work into building, maintaining, and improving it, not just acquiring more. Maybe I'm an odd collector!
Cheers,
Peter
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Recently received my first Canada postage due stamps. It will make a nice starter collection. I don't intend to collect any postage dues stamps beyond the series here presented.
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I picked this up for pence at the last stamp fair I attended:
Of course it may have been a careless piece of stamp-affixing, but that inverted Hitler head implied to my suggestible imagination that the sender may not have been the most enthusiastic supporter of the Third Reich.
She was Eugenie Hilte (or possibly Hietl), of Vienna, and revealed as much together with her address on the back of the envelope, presumably because she had to by law. I rather hope she survived this piece of insolence!
By the way, can anyone direct me to definitive (or at least contemporary) evidence that inverting a Hitler head really was an act of subversion - rather than a myth cooked up in after-years?
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" ... By the way, can anyone direct me to definitive (or at least contemporary) evidence that inverting a Hitler head really was an act of subversion - rather than a myth cooked up in after-years? ..."
Just after the turn of the century (early 1900s) there was a fad of sending a message by the way stamps were positioned. I recall seeing somewhere a card that explained the subtle meanings of tilting the King's head to the left or right, inverting it or placing the stamp in other than the top right corner. I'll try to find it but I am not sure where it was that I saw it.
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This is probably the sort of thing you were referring to:
Here's a link to the article: Picture Postcards from the Great War
Guthrum wrote:
" By the way, can anyone direct me to definitive (or at least contemporary) evidence that inverting a Hitler head really was an act of subversion - rather than a myth cooked up in after-years?
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Here is my other big Canada purchase, a paste-up pair of admirals.
The back:
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That is an outstanding pair of admirals, Antonio!
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A gorgeous pair of Admirals! I just love offbeat stamps like this. If there's not a space for them in a proprietary stamp album, then I'm interested! Congratulations, too, on collecting Admirals. They're great stamps. I once started a collection of Admirals and their varieties, but soon got discouraged by colour nuances, paper types, re-entries, etc. I'm just not a flyspeck collector!
Bob
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Thank you, gentlemen.
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Here's an update on the following cover I posted before:
"The FPO H series were used at Corps Headquarters, initially with the number of the Post mark equating to
the Corps HQ that used it; thus FPO H13 was in use at HQ XIII Corps.
But the security changes of June 1916 that instructed all units to swap their hand stamp with other units
saw FPO H13 taken into use with HQ VI Corps between 18/6/16 to 30/9/16.
So on 1/7/16 that is where the unit post orderly took the mail to.
The Censor Mark Type 4 [Hexagon] number 3151 was in use with 23 Squadron Royal Flying Corps.
The censoring officer L G H Vernon was Second Lieutenant Leslie Godfrey Harcourt Vernon, who was killed
in action 11/9/16 serving with 23 Squadron, he is commemorated on the Arras Flying Memorial."
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Yes, Ningpo, that is the idea and possibly the card I saw it on.
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Bought these recently,should arrive this week and I think the price was rather low considering they have the original Postmarks from the Phil.Bureaux in Edinburgh.
Also bought this at £ 4.99,again a rather low price.
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"I don't intend to collect any postage dues stamps beyond the series here presented."
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Inexpensive, but attractive!
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Nice stamp.
I don't know why I am always surprised when I am reminded that Romanian is a romance language.
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Another nice classic stamp
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Although these two stamps are 20 years apart, Chris, do I detect a theme emerging - the engraved image set within an ornate coloured border? They could have been designed by the same person! Interesting, too, that this style of design should remain popular for so long.
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Recently purchased this 1896 Rhodesia stamp
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I love the motto, 'Justice, Freedom, Commerce' - what a world of social history lies behind that triad! What would Robert Mugabe make of it?
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The stamp suggests that this was the British approach to their colonies. No doubt the other European countries would have agreed - I do not think freedom was uppermost in the minds of those who oversaw the workers in the South African mines. Unless, of course, it was the freedom to make as much money out of the land as possible - or 'commerce', as they politely termed it. Stamps remind us of our past, and that is as it should be.
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#65 with a great Fancy cancel on Patriotic cover (1862)
Great addition to my Eagle Collection
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Andrew, your cover includes the year, which was fairly uncommon for the period, making it all the better. very nice cover; beautiful fancy cancel and lovely patriotic, a mere ten months into the war
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A great postcard from the 1930s. The Pander Postjager was a purpose built mail plane to provide a regular mail service between the Netherlands and the Netherlands Indies. The first flight in December 1933 got as far as Italy where the aircraft was grounded with engine failure. The mail was picked up by a regular Fokker F.XII IJsvogel, which in turn got stuck in Jodhpur, British India so that the mail was finally delivered in the Indies by the Fokker F.XVIII Pelikaan.
The return flight was record breaking: in 4 days (leaving in the early hours of Dec. 27th, the airplane arrived at Dec. 30th, 10 pm at Schiphol airport)
This card shows all the stages in its cancels as well as a special Postjager cancel.
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This surely must be a very scarce card, as only one of this aircraft type was ever built.
This all wooden purpose built 'mail plane' only had a short lifespan.
From what I can decipher, the aircraft, which was renamed the Pander Hunter, was destroyed during take off on 26th October 1934, during the London-Melbourne air race.
Apparently as a result of complete confusion with the aerodrome lighting, the plane hit an ambulance towed beacon trolley at 160 kmh, as it lifted from the runway.
2000 gallons of aviation fuel and a wooden aircaft was a lethal mixture!
Jan-Simon, have you been able to find out how many items of mail were carried on the two legs of the inaugural flight? And was this the only mail run it did? If so, why was this mail run abandoned?
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The card is not scarce, although it may take a while to find a copy. I have a nearly identical one, and a couple of years ago Roy Lingen, iirc, offered me one.
The mail route was not abandoned at all. It became a mainstay of KLM's business. That triangular airmail stamp was required for mail on special flights, such as the London-Melbourne MacRobertson race that Ningpo mentions; my understanding is that KLM got 100% of the funds from the sale of the stamps.
The first foreign company to buy a Douglas DC-2 was KLM. That aircraft, named Uiver ("Stork" in Old Dutch) won the handicap division of the MacRobertson race, flying the same route that it would fly on subsequent commercial flights from Netherlands to Java, at that time a Dutch colony. Sadly, the Uiver crashed in the Syrian Desert near Rutbah Wells on its first commercial flight, killing everyone on board (four passengers and three crew). At the time, a giant system of thunderstorms was pouring most of the Middle East. The only investigation of the crash was carried out by KLM, which to this day does not publicly acknowledge the crash and has never released the findings of the investigation.
Other DC-2s were purchased and began plying the same route on a regular basis, and in 1937 were replaced by DC-3s.
Bob
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Off to the Strand Stamp Fair this morning - first fair for several months. Not entirely successful, either. That late 1944 Polish set, unprepossessing to look at but the first after liberation, which was going for £70-odd last summer, is double that now. I did get the two used Gibraltar 1953 top values I thought I needed, for £36, but when I got home I found I already had them! (Have you ever done that? Of course you haven't!) So all I came home with was this:
I liked the block, of course, and the implication that it had been done especially for Fraulein Elisabeth - perhaps a little girl who collected stamps. What also struck me was the mismatch between the festive holiday cancel (St Wolfgang is a picturesque resort by an Austrian lake) and the date, which is getting a little late in the day for the Third Reich.
Elisabeth (can anyone tell me her surname from that cover?) lived at Waitzstrasse 21, Kiel. Today that is in a large block of post-war flats set back from the main road; I suspect it would have looked very different in 1945. Wikipedia says:
"Because of its status as a naval port and as production site for submarines, Kiel was heavily bombed by the Allies during World War II. The bombing destroyed more than 80% of the remaining old town, 72% of the central residential areas, and 83% of the industrial areas. During the RAF bombing of 23/24 July 1944, Luftwaffe fighters tried to intercept the spoof (i.e. decoy) force instead of the main force attacking Kiel, and there was no water for three days; trains and buses did not run for eight days and there was no gas available for cooking for three weeks. There were several bombing raids of the port area during the period 20 February – 20 April 1945 which successfully eliminated many U-Boats, and the few large warships (cruisers Hipper, Scheer, and Koln) still afloat at that time."
So maybe this envelope (now sealed, no letter inside) provided some comfort for Elisabeth, with its block of four, and perhaps a memory of a childhood holiday by the lake.
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"Have you ever done that?"
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What is an " ... ambulance towed beacon trolley ..." ???
I just had to ask as it seemed to be an interesting phrase.
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Won these last Sunday during the auction at The Stamp Forum.
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One beacon trolley; as published on www.aviacrash.nl:
Apparently this was the mobile airfield lighting beacon, used at Allahabad primarily as a searchlight. On the occasion of the crash, the trolley was towed by an ambulance.
I didn't mention that all the crew were walking wounded with burns but one of the beacon mechanics lost both legs.
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It has taken me FOREVER, but I finally scored on a nice wad of USED Eastern Silesia.
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Nice Cinderella's Zipper - beautifully engraved.
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Czeslaw Slania engraving
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At the top, we have Brazil Scott 3CL1-3, issued Nov. 9, 1927, by Varig, Brazil's first national airline. Bottom is Germany Sanabria 34a, a se-tenant pair from a booklet issued July 14, 1931.
Varig is now part of Gol Airlines, according to Wikipedia. Its full name was Sociedade Anônima Empresa de Viação Aérea Rio-Grandense, which Google translates as Anonymous Society of Air Traffic Company Riograndense. An alternative translation for Anonymous Society is Joint Stock Company. That makes more sense.
The Brazilian stamps came from Paradise Valley Stamp Co. in the United States. The German pair is from Sandafayre, in Britain.
Ed Foster
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Interesting Brazil airmail history
The stamps were initially made in Germany for Condor Airlines
Varig was given the southernmost area of Brazil to operate in at basically the same time period as Condor.
Varig had close ties to Condor & they used their stamps with an overprint.
There are dozens of variations of these overprints and many errors - some quite valuable.
Shortly thereafter Condor published a second series with SYNDICATO CONDOR on the stamps.
Then they changed the values and overprinted them also with many more errors.
Condor went on to become an international airline.
If I remember right, the Varigs were discontinued in 1934 when both airlines used government airmails
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"I don't know why I am always surprised when I am reminded that Romanian is a romance language."
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Zipper, that set of ten "Eaton's Fine Letter Paper labels were issued during, or for, the New York World's Fair in 1939. My folks attended, despite the fact that my mother was very pregnant in the fall of 1939, (Yes, with yours truly -11/22/39 ) and they had a set of them, some forks and spoons with the WW Fair emblem and a metal molding (stamping ???)of the Trylon and Perisphere that was the fair's symbol of peace and hope of the future.
They had the ten labels mounted on a separate blank page of their old blue late 1930s Scott world wide album.
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These were from my uncle's collection. I covered his name during scanning.
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These arrived today.
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Anyone know anything about this postmark? Can't find it on Google.
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Love the colors on this.
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Zipper
Would you send me a scan or do I have permission to lift this image from StampoRama, maybe just maybe (no promise) I can enhance this cancel for you.
Now teach me how you search Google for a cancellations? I need to learn this skill.
Thanks in Advance
DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED
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Take what you like.
I googled many variations: Michigan postmarks, Michigan negative postmarks, negative postmarks, etc.
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Bee See, cool stuff. I, too, am starting to collect castles. Some S O's are on their way.
CDJ, that stamp is one of my favorites. Perhaps I should do a Vario page of them. Am now trying to assemble a page of 2 pence Blues. Cool that you were at the fair.
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Hey zipper
What are those? Souvenirs from a stamp show? They're gorgeous
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They're Cinderellas from a large, international stamp show in 1926 (horizontal stamp), and in 1936 (three vertical stamps), in New York. My favorite city.
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An attractive group of GB 1st class Machins, including the pane of four from the Berlin Airlift booklet. Just a shame that so often mailers are ruined by that horrible parcel tape. I guess I will have to remove these, as the oil in the tape's gum will in time bleed through.
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Zipper
I lifted your image of your cover, tried several enhancements, nothing worked this time. Enhancements of a post mark is a hit or miss type of thing. Sometimes it works real good, or some time only half good. In this case nothing helped. Even tried reverse video.
Sorry I could not help.
I noticed the return address was St. Johns Michigan. I was stationed at Wurthsmith AFB back in the 60's, dated a girl living in St. Johns.
DAVID THOMPSON
MSGT/USAF/RETIRED
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Thanks for trying.
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i owe my collection of modern Canada and Canadian sheetlets used to benefactors in Canada. These were on a package arrived yesterday !
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Arrived today, my first penny black.
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Congrats! I like how the cross has framed Vickie's face!
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These two came by post this morning.
They are Soviet Airmails - the writing looks like 'Abuanorma' but is in fact 'Aviaposta' - by different designers. The green 2r. shows 'Aeroplane over landscape' (Stanley Gibbons), or 'mountain stream' (Journal of Russian Philately). The 1r. is more interesting: it shows 'Aeroplane over coastline' (SG), or even 'over the Don river' (JRP).
Actually I think it shows a Japanese print, or a detail from a print - I thought Hiroshige, but a correspondent on another part of this website, who I think knows more about these things than me, demurs. Whatever the case, I have not been able to identify it. The words at lower left read "Farthest East" - presumably the extent to which Aeroflot was pleased to go back in 1955.
So, do designers use artworks from other countries without attributing them, and how cheeky is that? Or has Mr Dubasov (Goznak's Head Artist at the time) actually rendered his own 'Japanese' illustration - in the style of Hiroshige?
Somehow, I don't think I'll find out any time soon! (But please, if you are interested in design and designers, see my articles on Dubasov in the appropriate section of this site as and when they are published.)
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Hi Guthrum,
The words at the bottom left of the first "aviapochta" stamp are "dalnii vostok" or "far east".
I agree that the designer is suggesting a Japanese style.
It certainly isn't the Don river!
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Just won !
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This arrived today: 1976 North Vietnam cover to East Germany, franked with a stamp picturing "Tanks liberating Da Nang":
There's one interesting attribute of this cover that I haven't seen before: The "airmail stripes" around the edge were pasted onto the cover after, obviously, being cut from an airmail envelope.
I spent one night in hospital in Da Nang, in March, 1966. I had spent a couple of days on hospital ship U.S.S. Haven, where I had surgery for a gunshot wound to my right thigh.
I was flown by helicopter to Da Nang, and was evacuated on a C-131 Hercules to Clark AFB in the Philippines:
The next day, then after another night at Clark, back to the States in a C-141, at that time the largest aircraft in the world:
This photo shows the interior of the C-141, fitted out as a hospital plane, just like it was when I was a "guest"; I was one very sick puppy and don't remember a lot about the flight:
It's kinda hard to get my head around the fact that we worked really hard, and lost a lot of good men, trying to secure South Vietnam against the "communist hoard," and 10 years later it was all over, with nothing gained at all, except the knowledge that we did our best in an impossible situation. I well remember realizing, after only 24 days in South Vietnam, that we Americans had no business being there.
Bob
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Canada
Scott 125ii
Blue Green shade
Coil pair
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(Responding to the North Vietnam cover post)
Bob, one interesting point about your cover is who might have sent it from Hanoi to the family Hasenpusch in Kirchmoser. A quick check on the internet tells me that Kirchmoser did a certain amount of tank repair for the Red Army in the DDR days, and that Fritz Hasenpusch was well-known in canoeing circles(!). Today there's are Hasenpusches from Kirchmoser on Facebook.
So, was there a Hasenpusch in Hanoi in 1976 (and what was he doing), or is this a Vietnamese letter-writer staying in touch with a German family?
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An interesting post, Guthrum. East Germany and North Vietnam had quite close ties before, during, and after the Vietnam War. Many North Korean students went to East Germany to study in various disciplines, and East Germany undertook many social programs in North Vietnam, including the the construction of hospitals. East Germany also issued several stamps in support of North Vietnam during the war. Here's a DDR cover posted to Canada in 1971:
It's what could be called a "para-philatelic" cover. The sender, an East German philatelist, carried on a correspondence for a time with the recipient, a member of my stamp club.
The North Vietnamese used Chinese Type 62 light tanks:
Perhaps East Germany offered technical and military help to the PAVN (People's Army of Viet Nam).
Bob
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H.M.S. Carinthia, a British was a passenger ship that had been converted to an Armed Merchant Cruiser. On June 6, 1940, it was torpedoed U-46, about 50 miles west of the Aran Islands in Galway Bay in Ireland. Although several emergency vessels came to its aid, and it was taken under tow by two British rescue tugs, it sank the next day before reaching safety. Two officers and two ratings died in the attack.
The British rescue tug H.M.S. Bandit had been dispatched from the British naval base at Rosyth, Fife, Scotland to assist Carinthia, but a radio message changed its assignment to assist another British merchant vessel, S.S. Eros, which had been torpedoed north Ireland on June 7 by another German submarine, U-48.
H.M.S. Carinthia, a British passenger ship that had been converted to an Armed Merchant Cruiser. On June 6, 1940, it was torpedoed U-46, about 50 miles west of the Aran Islands in Galway Bay in Ireland. Although several emergency vessels came to its aid, and it was taken under tow by two British rescue tugs, it sank the next day before reaching safety. Two officers and two ratings died in the attack.
The British rescue tug H.M.S. Bandit had been dispatched from the British naval base at Rosyth, Fife, Scotland to assist Carinthia, but a radio message changed its assignment to assist another British merchant vessel, S.S. Eros, which had been torpedoed north Ireland on June 7 by another German submarine, U-48. Eros, however, was leading a charmed life. Although the ship was sinking, Bandit reached her, got a line aboard, and beached her on Tory Island in the Republic of Ireland (which lead to some interesting diplomatic contortions, since Ireland was neutral).
I’ve managed to obtain three covers that were salvaged from Eros, as as well as a photograph that I obtained from the National Maritime Museum in London. Here's an Eros cover, and the photograph:
There’s much more to Eros’’story, but this post is about Carinthia.But the postcard, which I received today from a dealer in Australia, is the first artifact of Carinthia that I have found.
Bob
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I could not resist this cover, which has two of my interests: Victorian era stamps, and ship postal usage. The red seals on the back are a bit annoying to be honest, as the color transfers, so I have to keep it in a clear cover.
Peter
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I LOVE wax seals on old letters!
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I wish I had the letter from the envelope! Who can't love covers? So much history and interesting finds.
Peter
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I found this Czech cancelled to order sheet today at my local stamp fair. I just thought the stamps were great designs, and those wonderful sepia-tone cancels. The Czechs really have produced some wonderful stuff over the years.
This set me back the princely sum of 10 pence (15 cents):
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At long last, my Portugal 1910 King Manuel II page is complete.
Aaah, the satisfaction of waiting for that last empty slot until the time is right!
No I am not going to try for an all Mint page. I am done, except for planning to add the extra stamps to my next Portugal Approval Book (not self promoting!).
Not the prettiest page, but just the same...
rrr...
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I have some acquisitions from this afternoon but first an explanation..i went to the monthly stamp show in Troy N.Y. with no expectations but to pass the time..as luck would have it a fellow came in with many boxes of netherlands covers...he was selling the higher end covers..$75 to 125 types to a dealer...i asked if his boxes contained any Dutch Indies..he said "they are in there...5 dollars accross the board". I said i am buying !!! Here is what i picked up for 50 bucks today...11 scans !!!
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first is opening flight from Java to Sydney !!!
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#2 a censored metered advertising cover from 1940 !
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#3 a registered letter to New York also 1940 but no censor !
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oops moved too quickly..here the pic !
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registered cover to New York with censor tape !
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a small airmail envelope to Holland !!
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six a blank and white dutch indies postcard !!
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Another censored to New York..1941 time is running out !!
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Postcard from 1897 with a squared circle postmark !!
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postal card with squared circle postmark from 1900
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another Java to Australia cover
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lastly a cover from Holland to the Dutch Indies...the dealer purchased like $2500 worth from the guy and they are going back to the Netherlands,,,perhaps phil the cheapskate should have purchased more..but these will keep me for a while !
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What is the Z.O.Z marking
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Hi smauggie,
It's short for "zie ommezijde", Dutch for "PTO" or "see overleaf".
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As a collector of EFOs, I could not resist these at a local auction!
George
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big george, thats pretty good ! smauggie heres the ZOZ or as we used to say in Brooklyn the udder side !!!
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Thank you Nigel and Phil. Of course, the other side had more postage and the address. That makes sense.
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i should have asked my wife..but Nigel answered it !!!
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Big George, those are great. Immediately reminded me of doing a page of cartoons with stamps back in the 1970's. Wish I could find and post them. The only one I remember was taking a bunch of the 4 cent Mercury stamps and placing them together so that it formed a complete Earth with 8 or 12 Mercury capsules in orbit. The captions said something about how crowded space is becoming. I've recreated the visual here using PowerPoint, but I still want to find the original!
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Here is a nice one I received yesterday. I will keep this as it is for several reasons, one being the suspicion that there will not be many in good genuinely used condition.
Another reason is of course the wonderful addressing
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Thought I'd add on to the end of this old thread. My latest acquisition which arrived in the mail today is a TL:
This has gone straight to the Penny Black Page.
Have a look through the earlier posts on this thread. There are some great stamps and covers there.
Regards ... Tim
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Congrats, Tim. Nice example.
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As usual on our trip to Bellefonte i purchased a whole bunch of covers...but i think this booklet of Danish locals was my favorite purchase.
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I really like the fancy cancels. Some of them really obscure the stamp but who really cares? Those cancels are amazing, thanks for showing them! I have a few but some of yours are incredible! Thanks again!!
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Beautiful, Vince - I'm jealous!
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Stamp arrived to my home in October 10, 2023. Great Britain, Queen Victoria, 2sh, (JF) Plate 1 used in the British Post Office in Danish West Indies (St. Thomas), Canceled with "C 51". Opened: Jan/ 1809, Stamps supplied July 3, 1865 and Closed: Sept/1/1877, Closed for receiving mail in Transit 1879. (Scott Danish A31)
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Excellent find Rodolfo. It looks like it is in good condition too.
Tim
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Thanks Tim, yes, it is in very god condition, not have thins or bend although it has a somewhat short perf.at the bottom in the right corner, but it is very difficult to get them in those conditions.
Rodolfo
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I have two recent ones... the first is a Dutch card memorial for the 50th anniversary of the crash of the K-L-M Uiver.
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My second recent one is a Paraguay set on cover honoring F.D.R.
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Ah, a “teachable moment"!
Philb said, "I have two recent ones... the first is a Dutch card memorial for the 50th anniversary of the crash of the K-L-M Uiver."
Sorry, Phil, 'taint so. The Douglas DC-2 Uiver, which meant Stork in Old Dutch, or so I am told, was the first DC-2 to be sold by Douglas to a European airline. The purchaser was Royal Dutch Airlines, which we know simply as KLM; Albert Plesman, president of KLM, personally ordered DC-2s for his airline during a trip to the Douglas plant in California in 1934. The Uiver was intended to start flying a regular route between Amsterdam and Java in the Dutch East Indies.
Before the Uiver started its regular passenger and mail service, KLM entered it in the handicap division of the MacRobertson international air race from London to Melbourne, in October, 1934. Even though the plane flew what was to be its regular route, landing at more airports than required by the race rules, and despite an unplanned emergency landing at night, during a thunderstorm, on a racetrack at Albury in New South Wales, the Uiver still finished first in the race’s handicap division. This is a contemporaneous photo from my collection, showing the Uiver landing at Melbourne:
The Uiver’s triumphant return to Netherlands was greeted with near hysteria by Dutch crowds and media. The souvenir sheet which Philb purchased commemorates the Uiver’s winning of the race, not its subsequent crash. In fact, the Uiver's crash has never even been acknowledged by KLM, and has certainly been ignored by Dutch postal authorities although the DC-2 is featured on several stamps of Netherlands and its colonies (as is the immediate descendant of the DC-2, the much better known DC-3.
The Uiver’s crash occurred quite early in its first commercial flight, which had been billed as a “Fast Christmas Flight”. It was carrying thousands of special event covers, picturing the Uiver flying through a Christmas wreath and intended to be returned by the recipients to the senders, franked with Dutch East India stamps. The Uiver left Amsterdam on December 19, 1934, landing that night at Cairio for fuel and food, and then taking off for Baghdad. It never arrived.
The next morning, Royal Air Force search planes found the Uiver’swreckage, scattered over the Syrian Desert near Rutbah Wells. The mangled wreckage was burned, and its four crew and three passengers were dead:
No formal crash investigation was carried out, and no cause was ever determined. A huge series of storm cells covered most of the Middle East that night; it's possible the Uiver was struck by lightning. Pilot fatigue was a possible cause. KLM pilots had been in contentious labour negotiations with Plesman, and the pilot had first refused to take the flight because of the likelihood of winter storms over the desert, but he was told he would be fired if he didn’t take the flight. During the Depression, steady jobs for pilots were few and far between.
Much of the mail was salvaged, but much of it was damaged by rain, mud, oil, smoke, and fire. Here’s the first Uiver cover I obtained, from a friend, Ben Guilliamse,* whose father had posted the letter to a friend in Java:
Bob
* Ben was killed in 2004 when his Cessna apparently stalled shortly after takeoff from the airport at Prince George, British Columbia. He had earned his pilot's license after retiring as a BC Telephone company technician and was carrying supplies to a hunting camp in northern BC. I miss him.
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I received these stamps in the mail today in the mail, from Weeda Stamps Ltd. of Victoria, British Columbia; the stamps picturing Leonardo’s proposed flying machine will complement the two beautiful used, CDS copies I recently bought on eBay:
Weeda offered these stamps in their almost-weekly list of deeply discounted specials. For many years, Weeda was a “flagship” walk-in, brick-and-mortar store here in Vancouver, offering weekly bidboard and over-the-counter sales. A few years ago they closed shop, moved to Victoria, and reopened as an auction-only company specializing in Canadian stamps, covers, and collections, and box lots, but always offering some enticing world-wide material. Here’s the link to Weeda’s current bidboard auction.
The envelope my new stamps arrived in must surely establish some new benchmark for impressive franking and cancellation (with a personalized — corporatized? — CDS canceller):
Bob
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Bob, i guess i was only going by the picture on the card the plane on the card had K L M on the belly.
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Just received this afternoon, early days of research ahead!
1898
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Of my last acquisitions; Great Britain, Queen Victoria, 2sh, Plate 1 with wing margin, 1867 Issue - Nothing like a Clear Profile of this other beautiful very fine to superb used stamp.
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Here are some items I picked up at "UNEXPO' held at APRL this past Friday & Saturday, Small show with five dealers and exhibits.
Some fancy cancels from Henry Gitner.
Here are two tiny covers, the top measures 108 x 41mm and the bottom 80 x 86mm.
I couldn't resist the "Rough & Ready" cancel from California. This shows I am not a cover snob with fading on most of the cover front.
I like this cover because it it an early meter from National Cash Register.
Illeagle use and Auxiliary marking.
Bold Maltese Cross from New York City.
Missent from Oneida, NY to Lawrence, MA and forwarded to Lancaster, MA.
Purple saw tooth CDS from Geauga county, OH.
This is an unopened pack of hinges. This will be added to my ephemera collection of perf gauges, letter openers and hinges.
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Nice material Vince!
Don
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why was the postal stationary rejected? had it already been X'd out? how would they know if it has a machine cancel? Just curious; i'd pick that up, too, regardless of the answer.
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Here is a scan of the back of that card.
This card is not a prepaid card. My guess is that the card had a Postal Stationary 4c added to try and pay the postage and it was caught by the delivery person after it was machine cancelled but before delivery.
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The fact that the sender cut the postage off the stationary envelope and pasted it onto the card?
BTW, I delivered phone books when I was in my late teens, maybe 1977.
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Also SON canx.
1896
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NCR meters on cover are scarce!
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Smauggie,
I don't actively collect meters but I knew it was unusual so added it to my collection. I always have an eye out for the unusual. Sometimes I'm not sure of what I'm looking for but know when I find it.
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My Mail Carrier had some goodies for me today.
This Fire Insurance cover came from Phil B. to add to my Fire, Fire Fighting and insurance collection. Thanks Phil!
These two are folded letters. First is a free frank from Lyman Burgess, PM Milton, Vermont 8/10/1828-8/15/1839. Letter talks about settling an estate.
The lower folded letter is from Concordn NH and is an offer to loan money to the Mayor of Manchester, NH
These two covers are additions to my Pointing Finger and Auxillary Markings collection.
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Vinman- nice covers with the pointing fingers and auxiliary markings. Two thoughts/questions:
1. Wonder about the stamped “addressee convicted of mail fraud” - seems like way more information than should be shared publicly. Do you have others like this?
2. Why would the second cover require foreign postage rate when it was sent to Washington DC? Don’t know how foreign service mail worked back then - wouldn’t it have been combined with others in some kind of diplomatic pouch?
Thanks for continuing to share your finds. Very much enjoy seeing what you discover
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About the first pointing finger - why does it say ".. convicted de mail fraud"? Not "of mail fraud". It's not from Canada/Quebec.
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I believe it says "OF" just like the Long Beach one above (from the Stamp Smarter Pointing Hand database)
https://stampsmarter.org/features/CoverP ...
Don
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After some bit of research I have come up with some information that may be of interest.
1) Concerning the letter posted at Pasadena California - according to the US Postal Bulletin, dated January 29, 1953:
"Letters (either surface or air mail) and packages (surface only) for American Government official personnel in foreign countries, addressed in care of the Departments of State, the Army, Navy, or Air Force, Washington, D. C, for onward dispatch through the facilities of those departments, must be prepaid at the appropriate international rate to the country in which the addressee is stationed."
2) Concerning the letter posted at Ventura, California - from time to time, US Postal Bulletins also provide directions for "Unlawful" mail and this may have been one such instance. I don't know what US Postal Bulletin is referenced in that case, but one such example from the bulletin dated January 29, 1953, was as follows:
"INSTRUCTIONS OF HEARING EXAMINERS - DOMESTIC "UNLAWFUL" ORDER NOTICES
"Unlawful" orders have been issued against the persons and concerns named below. All mail addressed to these persons and concerns at the addresses indicated should be returned to senders, stamped "Unlawful—Mail to this address returned by order of the Postmaster General" and no money order in favor of said persons or concerns shall be paid. These orders are to be enforced at the offices of address and delivery.
State City Name covered by order - California, Chula Vista, The Keyhole; The Keyhole Publishing Company; State News Co.; P. O. Box 219."
Hope this is of help.
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Smaier and Strider,
I picked the covers up because they were different and I planned to do some research on them. So far I came up empty handed other than The Auxillary Mrkings site does have the "Addressee convicted of mail fraud." Thank you Don for showing the cover from The Stamp Smarter site. I did check out Stamp Smarter and http://www.uspostalbulletins.com/Home.as ... regarding the second cover and also came up empty handed.
I enlarged the "DE" on the second cover and it looks like "DE" but I have to agree with Don that it is "OF" because that makes sense.
Thank you Don and Terry for you research on these. Information I will copy and put with the covers.
Vince
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Very good, Vince... My thought is that the Postal Service probably kept a list of all persons convicted of postal fraud and that the "Addressee convicted of mail fraud" marking was applied to any such item that appeared in the system. I would suppose until the person served their sentence they were not allowed to use the postal system for any purpose, i.e. sending or receiving mail, or obtaining/cashing postal money orders etc. Also, such a marking would not be considered "to much information", as the conviction would be a matter of public record.
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Recieved these German stamps yesterday. 3 Horizontal booklet pairs of the Wagner set from 1933.
Also a used block of four from the costume set from 1934.
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Back before the Internet, a friend of mine had ordered something questionable by mail. He got back his sealed envelope (with check inside) inside a larger envelope from the postal inspectors. It said box closed / fraud and as he put it, "A letter explaining how stupid he was!" I had no thought to save it back then!
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Terry, Don, and Vince - thanks for the information. Very interesting
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Of my last adcquisitions now in my Collection: 1 Penny Black, Plate 4 was registered on 19 May 1840, (IC) - Stamp with Open Top N.E. Square, Double Letters with typical dots in check letters square and Re-entries (above of POSTAGE and below of ONE PENNY. Light Postmark of Maltese Cross in red.
Tim, with this stamp now is complete our first row in the Penny Black Page.
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If possible please add arrows to show Re-entries, I do not see them?
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1898
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I received this in the mail on Friday. It is over 800 pages.
Doug
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I received these yesterday.
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I bought this. Is it genuine? The cover doesn't look like it's ever been used. Is it a favour cancel?
PS - sorry about huge border - I couldn't work out how to crop the image.
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Hi Charlie
I thought for a minute that this was you showing that you had one exactly the same - thus proving it's a forgery! But now I think you're just very helpfully improving on my scan by cropping it. Thanks for that!!
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Here's a better scan! Can anyone tell me why these stamps on covers very like this one are everywhere on ebay - many seemingly never postally used?
Have i bought a pup, as my old grannie used to say?
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The stamp of the right (Uruguay SC C9) was valid only on day of issue for special flight Montevideo-Rincón according to Colnect. The stamps were affixed and hand cancelled by postal clerks before the flight.
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Yes, Gibbons says the same. I guess I've just bought a blatantly philatelic item, instead of the postally used cover I was hoping for. Heigh ho! At least, it was a very cheap item.
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I'll show a scan later but I got a very difficult stamp to find from my stamp dealer in the mail today. It's one of those boring "dated greens" but RD312 is difficult to find. I'll have a friend scan it for me tomorrow, even though it isn't much to see, and post that tomorrow!
EDIT: My US Harris Liberty album only had a selection of dated reds and dated greens. I was lucky enough to find sets of pages for each! So now I can try to find them all!! I still think they're boring and ugly but at least I have spaces for them!!
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I started a new thread in March.
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I guess I should lock the other thread,