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Hey! I bought U.S.#70 at the stamp show this morning. the dealer said it was red violet. No so sure. opinions appreciated.
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05:23:01pm
The colours listed in Scott's are red lilac (70), brown lilac (70a), steel blue (70b), violet (70c) and pale grey violet (70d). I have, supposedly, the first and third of these. The steel violet has a certificate but without a whole bunch of them to look at, and what's the chances of that, telling the colours is just making an educated guess! You really have to go with a certificate and even then it's only someone's opinion. And you certainly can't distinguish the colours from a computer screen. Also red violet doesn't seem to be one of the listed colours. The early US colour shades are a real pain, good luck!! If I were a seller here I would either get a certificate or just sell it as the basic number. IMHO it could be anything except steel blue, but is probably 70a.
EDIT: There are significant price differences between some of the colours so telling them apart can be very important. Asking us to judge from a picture we see on our computer monitor is difficult since all monitors do not show the same colour. A little while ago I bought an early Canada Queen that was supposed to be blue green and when I got it the colour of the stamp was very different from what showed on the computer. I still wanted the stamp so it really didn't matter but you can't accurately tell colour shades from computer pictures.
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05:46:25pm
Looks to me like there is more brown than red in it.
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Stampaholic,
Nice looking stamp.
Are you comfortable with it being a #70, red violet?
As far as color, there are too many variables to be able to give an accurate "opinion" from a scan. The way your computer sees color, the way computer shows color and the way I see color. I have a chart to help tell the different colors and shades, there are 16 varieties listed.
I did a power search of Seigle Auctions and even their listings show a wide spectrum of colors. Here is a link.
https://siegelauctions.com/power-search/ ...
If you want to be sure I would send it to The Philatelic Foundation.
https://www.philatelicfoundation.org/
Here is a link to a search of certificates for Scott #70.
http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd.php? ...
Again, there are a variety of Scott #70.
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Just looked at all the certified ones , I can't see as any of them are red lilac; If that's what the certifiers are calling red lilac, not sure I want to get it certified. can't afford it anyway. Actually I tend to agree with Roy. Ok, so Scott says thin paper , how thin is thin? BTW, the stamp I have as 70a, I just noticed is bluish along the top. What is that? I have seen some on Hipstamp that actually appear to be red violet but they are expensive. thanks to all for the advice.
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re: U.S. #70?
The colours listed in Scott's are red lilac (70), brown lilac (70a), steel blue (70b), violet (70c) and pale grey violet (70d). I have, supposedly, the first and third of these. The steel violet has a certificate but without a whole bunch of them to look at, and what's the chances of that, telling the colours is just making an educated guess! You really have to go with a certificate and even then it's only someone's opinion. And you certainly can't distinguish the colours from a computer screen. Also red violet doesn't seem to be one of the listed colours. The early US colour shades are a real pain, good luck!! If I were a seller here I would either get a certificate or just sell it as the basic number. IMHO it could be anything except steel blue, but is probably 70a.
EDIT: There are significant price differences between some of the colours so telling them apart can be very important. Asking us to judge from a picture we see on our computer monitor is difficult since all monitors do not show the same colour. A little while ago I bought an early Canada Queen that was supposed to be blue green and when I got it the colour of the stamp was very different from what showed on the computer. I still wanted the stamp so it really didn't matter but you can't accurately tell colour shades from computer pictures.
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re: U.S. #70?
Looks to me like there is more brown than red in it.
Roy
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re: U.S. #70?
Stampaholic,
Nice looking stamp.
Are you comfortable with it being a #70, red violet?
As far as color, there are too many variables to be able to give an accurate "opinion" from a scan. The way your computer sees color, the way computer shows color and the way I see color. I have a chart to help tell the different colors and shades, there are 16 varieties listed.
I did a power search of Seigle Auctions and even their listings show a wide spectrum of colors. Here is a link.
https://siegelauctions.com/power-search/ ...
If you want to be sure I would send it to The Philatelic Foundation.
https://www.philatelicfoundation.org/
Here is a link to a search of certificates for Scott #70.
http://pfsearch.org/pfsearch/pf_grd.php? ...
Again, there are a variety of Scott #70.
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re: U.S. #70?
Just looked at all the certified ones , I can't see as any of them are red lilac; If that's what the certifiers are calling red lilac, not sure I want to get it certified. can't afford it anyway. Actually I tend to agree with Roy. Ok, so Scott says thin paper , how thin is thin? BTW, the stamp I have as 70a, I just noticed is bluish along the top. What is that? I have seen some on Hipstamp that actually appear to be red violet but they are expensive. thanks to all for the advice.
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