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Europe/Russia : Russia two more unknown stamps

 

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virgilp

26 Sep 2023
10:38:55am
Seems that I started to entertain SOR with some unknown Russian stamps. This time, just two!
Again, are they real or bogus overprints? If they are real, where they belong?
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26 Sep 2023
03:06:20pm
re: Russia two more unknown stamps

I don't recognise these and I believe they're both bogus.

I don't see any point in anyone creating a 2 kopek on 2 kopek surcharge (or 5k on 5k) and if it were instead 2 roubles on 2 kopeks I would expect to see a "2P" or "2p" surcharge.

The lowest values in the similar Don Territory and Kolchak surcharges were 25k and 35k respectively, reflecting the inflation of 1918/19.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!

26 Sep 2023
03:24:16pm
re: Russia two more unknown stamps

I agree with Nigel!! But just to make sure I searched all the weird Russian BoB stuff and I could find nothing like this! And Nigel's right, the surcharge really makes no sense. It must be someone just fooling around or part of the surcharge was omitted for some reason.
Even the shape of the numbers doesn't seem to match with any overprint I can find. That "5" is especially odd looking!

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virgilp

26 Sep 2023
06:10:33pm
re: Russia two more unknown stamps

Myself, I went through all Russia Civil War areas 1918-1923 in Michel and these stamps are not shown. Of course, nothing like those in Scott.

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26 Sep 2023
06:17:21pm
re: Russia two more unknown stamps

The best reference I have for the Russia civil war type stuff is my Minkus album. It seems to show almost everything including all the variations on the Ukraine trident overprints for each region. I have a few hundred of these that some day I have to sort through. Or one of you nice people could volunteer to do it for me!Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
1898

27 Sep 2023
05:48:09pm
re: Russia two more unknown stamps

Not everything in books are correct!

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virgilp

26 Sep 2023
10:38:55am

Seems that I started to entertain SOR with some unknown Russian stamps. This time, just two!
Again, are they real or bogus overprints? If they are real, where they belong?
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nigelc

26 Sep 2023
03:06:20pm

re: Russia two more unknown stamps

I don't recognise these and I believe they're both bogus.

I don't see any point in anyone creating a 2 kopek on 2 kopek surcharge (or 5k on 5k) and if it were instead 2 roubles on 2 kopeks I would expect to see a "2P" or "2p" surcharge.

The lowest values in the similar Don Territory and Kolchak surcharges were 25k and 35k respectively, reflecting the inflation of 1918/19.

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26 Sep 2023
03:24:16pm

re: Russia two more unknown stamps

I agree with Nigel!! But just to make sure I searched all the weird Russian BoB stuff and I could find nothing like this! And Nigel's right, the surcharge really makes no sense. It must be someone just fooling around or part of the surcharge was omitted for some reason.
Even the shape of the numbers doesn't seem to match with any overprint I can find. That "5" is especially odd looking!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
virgilp

26 Sep 2023
06:10:33pm

re: Russia two more unknown stamps

Myself, I went through all Russia Civil War areas 1918-1923 in Michel and these stamps are not shown. Of course, nothing like those in Scott.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
26 Sep 2023
06:17:21pm

re: Russia two more unknown stamps

The best reference I have for the Russia civil war type stuff is my Minkus album. It seems to show almost everything including all the variations on the Ukraine trident overprints for each region. I have a few hundred of these that some day I have to sort through. Or one of you nice people could volunteer to do it for me!Rolling On The Floor Laughing

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
1898

27 Sep 2023
05:48:09pm

re: Russia two more unknown stamps

Not everything in books are correct!

1898

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