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United States/Stamps : Scott 459 with Leader?

 

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1898

29 Aug 2023
02:52:33pm
See scan below from Ebay, which shows a Scott # 459 attached to a leader. It comes with a certificate.

Now then I'm not questioning whether it's a real 459!

What my question is has anyone on SOR ever seen an right and proper example like this before?

Please respond to "1898"

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Jack

29 Aug 2023
03:32:16pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Looks genuine to me. And with a Crowe cert. you can pretty much take that to the bank.

Below is another example with bigger leader and more stamps:

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They are not all that rare.

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29 Aug 2023
03:38:49pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Here is another example:

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1898

29 Aug 2023
04:35:44pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

@banknoteguy

Thanks

I assume your two examples are not Scott # 459, perhaps I did not phase my question correctly "What my question is has anyone on SOR ever seen an right and proper example like this before? Example being Scott 459 attached with perfs. leader?

When you said it look's genuine to me, are you saying the stamps are Scott # 459?

Thank you.

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29 Aug 2023
05:16:56pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Yes, 459. 459 can come in strips with leader attached. The perfs are on the leader not the strip of imperforate stamps that is glued to the leader.

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1898

29 Aug 2023
05:22:18pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

@banknoteguy

OK, I learned something new.

Looks like I need to get one of these 459's with leader like you have.

May I see one of the Crowe certificates, I want to see what the cert. says, if you don't mind.

Many thanks in advance

1898

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29 Aug 2023
07:08:34pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Below is the Crowe cert for the current eBay listing:



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29 Aug 2023
07:21:30pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

I have several US coil strips with leaders, but I forget which Scott #s they were. So I have seen this type of item up close.

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29 Aug 2023
07:29:24pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

It's kind of weird, I've been a very serious US collector since 1972 and have a huge collection. But I don't have one coil with a leader. They sound very similar to the way pasted-up-pairs are done. I don't have any of those for the US either and I know they exist! Two more items for my bucket stamp list!!

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1898

29 Aug 2023
07:34:19pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

@banknoteguy

Many thanks for your latest posting, it confirms exactly what I thought.

Again thank you!

Very interesting something to serious think about!

1898

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29 Aug 2023
07:37:04pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

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The coils with leaders are not expansive!

Good luck in your chase finding example(s).

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29 Aug 2023
09:08:03pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

"The coils with leaders are not expansive!

Good luck in your chase finding example(s)."



Check out the link below for a 118-page exhibit of "Leaders and Trailers."


Linus


https://www.stampcommunity.org/go/link.a ...


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05 Sep 2023
06:10:49pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Apparently I have Scott #839 and #841, perf 10 vertical coils, with leader strips.

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15 Sep 2023
06:04:39pm
re: Scott 459 with Leader?

I have a couple of hundred Leaders and Coils, I try to collect them in pairs (coil and leader from same coil roll). Also beware of fakes, there are quite a few floating around. Here is a small online exhibit of some of mine
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/album_ ...
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1898

29 Aug 2023
02:52:33pm

See scan below from Ebay, which shows a Scott # 459 attached to a leader. It comes with a certificate.

Now then I'm not questioning whether it's a real 459!

What my question is has anyone on SOR ever seen an right and proper example like this before?

Please respond to "1898"

1898

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Jack
29 Aug 2023
03:32:16pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Looks genuine to me. And with a Crowe cert. you can pretty much take that to the bank.

Below is another example with bigger leader and more stamps:

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They are not all that rare.

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Jack
29 Aug 2023
03:38:49pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Here is another example:

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1898

29 Aug 2023
04:35:44pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

@banknoteguy

Thanks

I assume your two examples are not Scott # 459, perhaps I did not phase my question correctly "What my question is has anyone on SOR ever seen an right and proper example like this before? Example being Scott 459 attached with perfs. leader?

When you said it look's genuine to me, are you saying the stamps are Scott # 459?

Thank you.

1898


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Jack
29 Aug 2023
05:16:56pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Yes, 459. 459 can come in strips with leader attached. The perfs are on the leader not the strip of imperforate stamps that is glued to the leader.

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1898

29 Aug 2023
05:22:18pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

@banknoteguy

OK, I learned something new.

Looks like I need to get one of these 459's with leader like you have.

May I see one of the Crowe certificates, I want to see what the cert. says, if you don't mind.

Many thanks in advance

1898

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Jack
29 Aug 2023
07:08:34pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Below is the Crowe cert for the current eBay listing:



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29 Aug 2023
07:21:30pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

I have several US coil strips with leaders, but I forget which Scott #s they were. So I have seen this type of item up close.

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
29 Aug 2023
07:29:24pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

It's kind of weird, I've been a very serious US collector since 1972 and have a huge collection. But I don't have one coil with a leader. They sound very similar to the way pasted-up-pairs are done. I don't have any of those for the US either and I know they exist! Two more items for my bucket stamp list!!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
1898

29 Aug 2023
07:34:19pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

@banknoteguy

Many thanks for your latest posting, it confirms exactly what I thought.

Again thank you!

Very interesting something to serious think about!

1898

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1898

29 Aug 2023
07:37:04pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

@Poster

The coils with leaders are not expansive!

Good luck in your chase finding example(s).

1898

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Linus

29 Aug 2023
09:08:03pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

"The coils with leaders are not expansive!

Good luck in your chase finding example(s)."



Check out the link below for a 118-page exhibit of "Leaders and Trailers."


Linus


https://www.stampcommunity.org/go/link.a ...


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05 Sep 2023
06:10:49pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

Apparently I have Scott #839 and #841, perf 10 vertical coils, with leader strips.

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15 Sep 2023
06:04:39pm

re: Scott 459 with Leader?

I have a couple of hundred Leaders and Coils, I try to collect them in pairs (coil and leader from same coil roll). Also beware of fakes, there are quite a few floating around. Here is a small online exhibit of some of mine
https://stampsmarter.org/learning/album_ ...
Don

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