I would answer that as yes. In some cases, an inverted watermark is an error, if the watermark is supposed to be upright on the printed stamp. In others, and I believe this is true with some Great Britain definitives, the inverted watermark stamps are from booklets, while the upright watermark is from the sheet stamp. Some such stamps are listed in the catalogues.
And in other places (Australia? Australian States? -- I may stand to be corrected) the printers didn't care which way the paper went into the press and there are many possible variations or watermarks (inverted, reversed, inverted and reversed) so the catalogues ignore listing them and value differences, but collectors will collect!
Roy
@roy
This is supposed to be "Duscussion Topics, United States, Postage Stamps", not Australia? Australian States, no offense, you should post this under the correct Discussion Topic!
I was responding to this:
"In others, and I believe this is true with some Great Britain definitives, the inverted watermark stamps are from booklets, while the upright watermark is from the sheet stamp. Some such stamps are listed in the catalogues."
@roy
Next time use "@michael78651"!
Hope this helps you.
@1898
(Happy now?)
I have been on this DB for over 20 years. In fact I wrote the first website. You have been here for 7 months. Please don't lecture me on how to use the Board.
The nature of these discussions has always been "they morph". That makes them interesting, for most of us. When they morph too far, the moderators have a tendency to split them into new threads.
It's always been this way. We like it this way. Varied conversation. It leads to new thoughts, new exchanges, varied interests.
If any of you "old-timers" think I'm wrong, please speak up.
Roy
Roy, you are not wrong.
Mark
@roy
Yes I'm happy now, thank you.
Under the Stamporama code of conduct, "#2 Be considerate of others in the discussion boards. Do not behave in ways that can be considered to be abusive, disruptive, illegal, or otherwise detrimental to Stamporama."
Yes, I'm new to stamporama and try to follow the code of conduct, I would suggest someone at stamporama add to the code of conduct what Roy said so that a new person such as myself understands what the nature of these discussions are.
You said "Please don't lecture me on how to use this Board" I'm sorry you took what I said as a lecture, again I was trying to follow the code of conduct!
May I ask what is the purpose of the "Discussion Topics"?
I'm not really an old timer since I've only been here a few years but I really like how one topic can lead to another and then back again! If it branches off "never to return" that's when the moderators take it to another string. It works well so leave it as it is. Just because one person strays a bit, and I do it all the time, there is no reason to panic. How's the Super Bowl going to go? What's the weather like where you are? Who else has a cat? Etc.!!!!
Person straying a bit:
Does anyone have a factual way of recording watermarks?
What is involed in doing this?
I am not sure I understand your question.
"Does anyone have a factual way of recording watermarks?"
Do you mean when they were put into use, who designed them, how many are there, which countries have them, etc.?
There are many places to find WM. For example the following:
Recording them, like a photo or scan of both the water mark and the fr0nt of the stamp.
I've seen expert certs some place, when a stamp that has a watermark, is the watermark recording also provided on the cert?
I know if it was me getting the cert. I would ask for watermark recording (for those who do not know recording is, it's an image scan, or photo of the watermark)!
If you are spending your money on a cert. you should get you money's worth!
On both postage and revenue stamps, are they sought after?
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
I would answer that as yes. In some cases, an inverted watermark is an error, if the watermark is supposed to be upright on the printed stamp. In others, and I believe this is true with some Great Britain definitives, the inverted watermark stamps are from booklets, while the upright watermark is from the sheet stamp. Some such stamps are listed in the catalogues.
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
And in other places (Australia? Australian States? -- I may stand to be corrected) the printers didn't care which way the paper went into the press and there are many possible variations or watermarks (inverted, reversed, inverted and reversed) so the catalogues ignore listing them and value differences, but collectors will collect!
Roy
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
@roy
This is supposed to be "Duscussion Topics, United States, Postage Stamps", not Australia? Australian States, no offense, you should post this under the correct Discussion Topic!
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
I was responding to this:
"In others, and I believe this is true with some Great Britain definitives, the inverted watermark stamps are from booklets, while the upright watermark is from the sheet stamp. Some such stamps are listed in the catalogues."
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
@roy
Next time use "@michael78651"!
Hope this helps you.
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
@1898
(Happy now?)
I have been on this DB for over 20 years. In fact I wrote the first website. You have been here for 7 months. Please don't lecture me on how to use the Board.
The nature of these discussions has always been "they morph". That makes them interesting, for most of us. When they morph too far, the moderators have a tendency to split them into new threads.
It's always been this way. We like it this way. Varied conversation. It leads to new thoughts, new exchanges, varied interests.
If any of you "old-timers" think I'm wrong, please speak up.
Roy
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
Roy, you are not wrong.
Mark
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
@roy
Yes I'm happy now, thank you.
Under the Stamporama code of conduct, "#2 Be considerate of others in the discussion boards. Do not behave in ways that can be considered to be abusive, disruptive, illegal, or otherwise detrimental to Stamporama."
Yes, I'm new to stamporama and try to follow the code of conduct, I would suggest someone at stamporama add to the code of conduct what Roy said so that a new person such as myself understands what the nature of these discussions are.
You said "Please don't lecture me on how to use this Board" I'm sorry you took what I said as a lecture, again I was trying to follow the code of conduct!
May I ask what is the purpose of the "Discussion Topics"?
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
I'm not really an old timer since I've only been here a few years but I really like how one topic can lead to another and then back again! If it branches off "never to return" that's when the moderators take it to another string. It works well so leave it as it is. Just because one person strays a bit, and I do it all the time, there is no reason to panic. How's the Super Bowl going to go? What's the weather like where you are? Who else has a cat? Etc.!!!!
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
Person straying a bit:
Does anyone have a factual way of recording watermarks?
What is involed in doing this?
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
I am not sure I understand your question.
"Does anyone have a factual way of recording watermarks?"
Do you mean when they were put into use, who designed them, how many are there, which countries have them, etc.?
There are many places to find WM. For example the following:
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
Recording them, like a photo or scan of both the water mark and the fr0nt of the stamp.
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks
I've seen expert certs some place, when a stamp that has a watermark, is the watermark recording also provided on the cert?
I know if it was me getting the cert. I would ask for watermark recording (for those who do not know recording is, it's an image scan, or photo of the watermark)!
If you are spending your money on a cert. you should get you money's worth!