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United States/Stamps : Poll Inverted Watermarks

 

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1898

08 Feb 2023
04:01:14pm
On both postage and revenue stamps, are they sought after?
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michael78651

09 Feb 2023
11:42:13am
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I would answer that as yes. In some cases, an inverted watermark is an error, if the watermark is supposed to be upright on the printed stamp. In others, and I believe this is true with some Great Britain definitives, the inverted watermark stamps are from booklets, while the upright watermark is from the sheet stamp. Some such stamps are listed in the catalogues.

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09 Feb 2023
12:00:22pm
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

And in other places (Australia? Australian States? -- I may stand to be corrected) the printers didn't care which way the paper went into the press and there are many possible variations or watermarks (inverted, reversed, inverted and reversed) so the catalogues ignore listing them and value differences, but collectors will collect!

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1898

09 Feb 2023
01:38:39pm
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@roy

This is supposed to be "Duscussion Topics, United States, Postage Stamps", not Australia? Australian States, no offense, you should post this under the correct Discussion Topic!

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09 Feb 2023
02:04:47pm
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I was responding to this:

"In others, and I believe this is true with some Great Britain definitives, the inverted watermark stamps are from booklets, while the upright watermark is from the sheet stamp. Some such stamps are listed in the catalogues."



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1898

09 Feb 2023
02:21:29pm
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@roy

Next time use "@michael78651"!

Hope this helps you.

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09 Feb 2023
02:59:41pm
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@1898
(Happy now?)

I have been on this DB for over 20 years. In fact I wrote the first website. You have been here for 7 months. Please don't lecture me on how to use the Board.

The nature of these discussions has always been "they morph". That makes them interesting, for most of us. When they morph too far, the moderators have a tendency to split them into new threads.

It's always been this way. We like it this way. Varied conversation. It leads to new thoughts, new exchanges, varied interests.

If any of you "old-timers" think I'm wrong, please speak up.

Roy

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09 Feb 2023
03:21:40pm
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

Roy, you are not wrong.

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1898

09 Feb 2023
06:53:45pm
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@roy

Yes I'm happy now, thank you.

Under the Stamporama code of conduct, "#2 Be considerate of others in the discussion boards. Do not behave in ways that can be considered to be abusive, disruptive, illegal, or otherwise detrimental to Stamporama."

Yes, I'm new to stamporama and try to follow the code of conduct, I would suggest someone at stamporama add to the code of conduct what Roy said so that a new person such as myself understands what the nature of these discussions are.

You said "Please don't lecture me on how to use this Board" I'm sorry you took what I said as a lecture, again I was trying to follow the code of conduct!

May I ask what is the purpose of the "Discussion Topics"?

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09 Feb 2023
07:13:48pm
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I'm not really an old timer since I've only been here a few years but I really like how one topic can lead to another and then back again! If it branches off "never to return" that's when the moderators take it to another string. It works well so leave it as it is. Just because one person strays a bit, and I do it all the time, there is no reason to panic. How's the Super Bowl going to go? What's the weather like where you are? Who else has a cat? Etc.!!!!

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1898

10 Feb 2023
08:10:07am
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

Person straying a bit:

Does anyone have a factual way of recording watermarks?

What is involed in doing this?




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11 Feb 2023
08:07:32am
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I am not sure I understand your question.

"Does anyone have a factual way of recording watermarks?"

Do you mean when they were put into use, who designed them, how many are there, which countries have them, etc.?

There are many places to find WM. For example the following:


Image Not Found

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1898

11 Feb 2023
08:44:17am
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

Recording them, like a photo or scan of both the water mark and the fr0nt of the stamp.


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1898

12 Feb 2023
09:15:01am
re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I've seen expert certs some place, when a stamp that has a watermark, is the watermark recording also provided on the cert?

I know if it was me getting the cert. I would ask for watermark recording (for those who do not know recording is, it's an image scan, or photo of the watermark)!

If you are spending your money on a cert. you should get you money's worth!

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1898

08 Feb 2023
04:01:14pm

On both postage and revenue stamps, are they sought after?

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michael78651

09 Feb 2023
11:42:13am

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I would answer that as yes. In some cases, an inverted watermark is an error, if the watermark is supposed to be upright on the printed stamp. In others, and I believe this is true with some Great Britain definitives, the inverted watermark stamps are from booklets, while the upright watermark is from the sheet stamp. Some such stamps are listed in the catalogues.

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09 Feb 2023
12:00:22pm

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

And in other places (Australia? Australian States? -- I may stand to be corrected) the printers didn't care which way the paper went into the press and there are many possible variations or watermarks (inverted, reversed, inverted and reversed) so the catalogues ignore listing them and value differences, but collectors will collect!

Roy

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"Over 7,000 new covers coming Wednesday March 20. See my homepage for details."

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1898

09 Feb 2023
01:38:39pm

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

@roy

This is supposed to be "Duscussion Topics, United States, Postage Stamps", not Australia? Australian States, no offense, you should post this under the correct Discussion Topic!

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09 Feb 2023
02:04:47pm

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I was responding to this:

"In others, and I believe this is true with some Great Britain definitives, the inverted watermark stamps are from booklets, while the upright watermark is from the sheet stamp. Some such stamps are listed in the catalogues."



Roy

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"Over 7,000 new covers coming Wednesday March 20. See my homepage for details."

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1898

09 Feb 2023
02:21:29pm

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

@roy

Next time use "@michael78651"!

Hope this helps you.

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09 Feb 2023
02:59:41pm

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

@1898
(Happy now?)

I have been on this DB for over 20 years. In fact I wrote the first website. You have been here for 7 months. Please don't lecture me on how to use the Board.

The nature of these discussions has always been "they morph". That makes them interesting, for most of us. When they morph too far, the moderators have a tendency to split them into new threads.

It's always been this way. We like it this way. Varied conversation. It leads to new thoughts, new exchanges, varied interests.

If any of you "old-timers" think I'm wrong, please speak up.

Roy

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"Over 7,000 new covers coming Wednesday March 20. See my homepage for details."

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APS # 224327
09 Feb 2023
03:21:40pm

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

Roy, you are not wrong.

Mark

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1898

09 Feb 2023
06:53:45pm

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

@roy

Yes I'm happy now, thank you.

Under the Stamporama code of conduct, "#2 Be considerate of others in the discussion boards. Do not behave in ways that can be considered to be abusive, disruptive, illegal, or otherwise detrimental to Stamporama."

Yes, I'm new to stamporama and try to follow the code of conduct, I would suggest someone at stamporama add to the code of conduct what Roy said so that a new person such as myself understands what the nature of these discussions are.

You said "Please don't lecture me on how to use this Board" I'm sorry you took what I said as a lecture, again I was trying to follow the code of conduct!

May I ask what is the purpose of the "Discussion Topics"?

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This is my diabetic cat OBI! I think, therefore I am - I think! Descartes, sort of!
09 Feb 2023
07:13:48pm

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I'm not really an old timer since I've only been here a few years but I really like how one topic can lead to another and then back again! If it branches off "never to return" that's when the moderators take it to another string. It works well so leave it as it is. Just because one person strays a bit, and I do it all the time, there is no reason to panic. How's the Super Bowl going to go? What's the weather like where you are? Who else has a cat? Etc.!!!!

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"Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don't have time for all that. George Carlin"
1898

10 Feb 2023
08:10:07am

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

Person straying a bit:

Does anyone have a factual way of recording watermarks?

What is involed in doing this?




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mbo1142

I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.
11 Feb 2023
08:07:32am

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I am not sure I understand your question.

"Does anyone have a factual way of recording watermarks?"

Do you mean when they were put into use, who designed them, how many are there, which countries have them, etc.?

There are many places to find WM. For example the following:


Image Not Found

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1898

11 Feb 2023
08:44:17am

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

Recording them, like a photo or scan of both the water mark and the fr0nt of the stamp.


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1898

12 Feb 2023
09:15:01am

re: Poll Inverted Watermarks

I've seen expert certs some place, when a stamp that has a watermark, is the watermark recording also provided on the cert?

I know if it was me getting the cert. I would ask for watermark recording (for those who do not know recording is, it's an image scan, or photo of the watermark)!

If you are spending your money on a cert. you should get you money's worth!

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