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2010ccg

28 Dec 2014
07:26:28pm
I am hoping that someone in the club can explain the term "speculative stamp issue" to me.. Are there examples that you can share with me on line? Thankyou
Cheryl
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28 Dec 2014
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If I remember correctly, speculative stamp issues are generally defined as stamps which were printed to sell to collectors rather than to be used as postage.

One of the more prolific producers of stamps fitting that description would be Seebeck, and all of his South American issues. More modern issues would be those of South Moluccas, Republik Maluku Selatan, etc.

I'm certain there are other definitions and hopefully others will add to this.

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28 Dec 2014
08:14:42pm
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Thankyou....

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29 Dec 2014
03:34:44am

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As far as I know in Australia imperforate stamps cannot be used for postage,so I suppose this issue falls into this category.
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29 Dec 2014
06:41:59am

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that's an odd one, Brian. So, in effect, these have no franking value, and, once bought, have value solely based on their collectability. Could we make bisects out of pairs with the perfs between?


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29 Dec 2014
05:03:10pm

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Hi David
You have me there! I've no idea ,I have seen a photo of the Redback Spider used on cover as anything goes through the mail here in Australia .
The block of 6 sells for between $30/40 on average.
Here's a couple more Sc # 3417a imperf. Scott's value on this is $22-00
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And this part perf.S/S of the Rising Sun Cap Badges Sc # 3696b
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29 Dec 2014
05:45:29pm

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And a few more,done solely for the purpose of raising funds for Australia 2013 Stamp Expo in Melbourne.All imperf printings,and only 10000 of each were done
Each one retailed at $15-00.
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2010ccg

29 Dec 2014
07:39:48pm
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Thanks for the info....

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jillcrow

30 Dec 2014
08:00:05am
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I don’t believe that there is a problem in using any of those minisheets for postage, provided that they are kept intact. What Australia Post says you may NOT do, is remove any imperforate stamp from a minisheet to use for postage. These issues were certainly exploitative, as they were sold at prices well in excess of their face value, in special packs. The Red-back spider sheet included a $1 stamp that was not issued as a single stamp, and the Rising Sun sheet included 2 x $1 stamps that were only issued in that sheet. The Colonial Heritage sheets with the imperforate stamps used special intaglio printing.
This is the story behind the Red-back spider sheet from the ASB no.284 (July-Sept 2006):
.
1494250 Red-back special
edition miniature sheet pack
$9.95
This exclusive Red-back miniature sheet, set in a
semi-imperforate configuration, is only available in a
special edition pack and will not be included in the
2006 Collection of Australian Stamps.
The Red-back, originally commissioned to be part of
the Dangerous Australians stamp issue, was thought
to be too realistic at stamp size. It was decided that
it was...NEVER TO BE RELEASED for general post-
age! The pack gives you the opportunity to obtain
the original six stamps in their concept layout and
configuration. The Red-back was replaced by the Yellow-
bellied Sea Snake – another Dangerous Australian.


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30 Dec 2014
12:32:59pm

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so if I understand Jill correctly, the stamps ARE valid for postage as long as they are used intact, but any modification to the sheet invalidates their franking power.

Odd indeed.


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30 Dec 2014
04:54:50pm
re: speculative issue

Hi Everyone;

Just thought you might enjoy some light reading, about the "box Jellyfish" also known as the "Sea Wasp",
pictured on the souvenir sheet of Australia's Deadliest creatures. This excerpt is taken without
permission from the www.extremescience.com website.

"What Makes the Sea Wasp so Deadly?

In both cases the grand prize winner and world-record holder is the creature known as the sea wasp,
or marine stinger. The venom from a single creature can kill up to 60 adults! Over 100 people
have been killed by the stings from a Chironex fleckeri and many more have been stung, but lived.
Get stung badly enough by one and you could be dead within four minutes. The name sea wasp is
misleading because the creature isn't actually a wasp or insect at all. It is a jellyfish. The "bell" of
this box jelly can get as big as a basketball with up to 60 tentacles hanging down as long as
15 feet, which is pretty good sized jelly. Not as big as the world-record jellyfish, though.

Simple Fix

Turns out, something as thin and flimsy as women's nylon pantyhose worn over the skin will prevent
the jellies from stinging. Aussies have known about this trick for years. You'll catch totally cool
Aussie Lifeguards wearing women's pantyhose over their arms and on their legs. It may look funny,
but it can prevent them from suffering agonizing pain and can even save their lives."



Okay, everyone in the water, time to feed the jellies!! Rolling On The Floor Laughing

Just thought you should know that the red-back spider isn't anywhere as deadly as this jelly is.

The anti-toxin or anti-venom must be administered literally within minutes or seconds to be useful,
especially if the victim was in contact with several feet of tentacle. Some beaches are netted off not
for Great Whites but specifically for these jellies. Altho I'm sure they could combine both nets into
an anti shark/jelly net. Some surfers carry the anti-venom with them when in the water, and
lifeguards have it available and are trained to administer it. I also read that people who survive the
sting usually wish they had died because of the extreme pain of this creatures venom.

Just pokin' around....
TuskenRaider


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2010ccg

28 Dec 2014
07:26:28pm

I am hoping that someone in the club can explain the term "speculative stamp issue" to me.. Are there examples that you can share with me on line? Thankyou
Cheryl

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In loving memory of Carol, my wife for 52 years.

28 Dec 2014
08:04:58pm

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re: speculative issue

If I remember correctly, speculative stamp issues are generally defined as stamps which were printed to sell to collectors rather than to be used as postage.

One of the more prolific producers of stamps fitting that description would be Seebeck, and all of his South American issues. More modern issues would be those of South Moluccas, Republik Maluku Selatan, etc.

I'm certain there are other definitions and hopefully others will add to this.

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2010ccg

28 Dec 2014
08:14:42pm

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Thankyou....

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29 Dec 2014
03:34:44am

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As far as I know in Australia imperforate stamps cannot be used for postage,so I suppose this issue falls into this category.
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Brian

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29 Dec 2014
06:41:59am

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re: speculative issue

that's an odd one, Brian. So, in effect, these have no franking value, and, once bought, have value solely based on their collectability. Could we make bisects out of pairs with the perfs between?


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29 Dec 2014
05:03:10pm

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re: speculative issue

Hi David
You have me there! I've no idea ,I have seen a photo of the Redback Spider used on cover as anything goes through the mail here in Australia .
The block of 6 sells for between $30/40 on average.
Here's a couple more Sc # 3417a imperf. Scott's value on this is $22-00
Image Not Found

And this part perf.S/S of the Rising Sun Cap Badges Sc # 3696b
Image Not Found

Brian

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29 Dec 2014
05:45:29pm

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re: speculative issue

And a few more,done solely for the purpose of raising funds for Australia 2013 Stamp Expo in Melbourne.All imperf printings,and only 10000 of each were done
Each one retailed at $15-00.
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Brian

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2010ccg

29 Dec 2014
07:39:48pm

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Thanks for the info....

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jillcrow

30 Dec 2014
08:00:05am

re: speculative issue

I don’t believe that there is a problem in using any of those minisheets for postage, provided that they are kept intact. What Australia Post says you may NOT do, is remove any imperforate stamp from a minisheet to use for postage. These issues were certainly exploitative, as they were sold at prices well in excess of their face value, in special packs. The Red-back spider sheet included a $1 stamp that was not issued as a single stamp, and the Rising Sun sheet included 2 x $1 stamps that were only issued in that sheet. The Colonial Heritage sheets with the imperforate stamps used special intaglio printing.
This is the story behind the Red-back spider sheet from the ASB no.284 (July-Sept 2006):
.
1494250 Red-back special
edition miniature sheet pack
$9.95
This exclusive Red-back miniature sheet, set in a
semi-imperforate configuration, is only available in a
special edition pack and will not be included in the
2006 Collection of Australian Stamps.
The Red-back, originally commissioned to be part of
the Dangerous Australians stamp issue, was thought
to be too realistic at stamp size. It was decided that
it was...NEVER TO BE RELEASED for general post-
age! The pack gives you the opportunity to obtain
the original six stamps in their concept layout and
configuration. The Red-back was replaced by the Yellow-
bellied Sea Snake – another Dangerous Australian.


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Editor, Seal News; contributor, JuicyHeads
30 Dec 2014
12:32:59pm

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re: speculative issue

so if I understand Jill correctly, the stamps ARE valid for postage as long as they are used intact, but any modification to the sheet invalidates their franking power.

Odd indeed.


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TuskenRaider

30 Dec 2014
04:54:50pm

re: speculative issue

Hi Everyone;

Just thought you might enjoy some light reading, about the "box Jellyfish" also known as the "Sea Wasp",
pictured on the souvenir sheet of Australia's Deadliest creatures. This excerpt is taken without
permission from the www.extremescience.com website.

"What Makes the Sea Wasp so Deadly?

In both cases the grand prize winner and world-record holder is the creature known as the sea wasp,
or marine stinger. The venom from a single creature can kill up to 60 adults! Over 100 people
have been killed by the stings from a Chironex fleckeri and many more have been stung, but lived.
Get stung badly enough by one and you could be dead within four minutes. The name sea wasp is
misleading because the creature isn't actually a wasp or insect at all. It is a jellyfish. The "bell" of
this box jelly can get as big as a basketball with up to 60 tentacles hanging down as long as
15 feet, which is pretty good sized jelly. Not as big as the world-record jellyfish, though.

Simple Fix

Turns out, something as thin and flimsy as women's nylon pantyhose worn over the skin will prevent
the jellies from stinging. Aussies have known about this trick for years. You'll catch totally cool
Aussie Lifeguards wearing women's pantyhose over their arms and on their legs. It may look funny,
but it can prevent them from suffering agonizing pain and can even save their lives."



Okay, everyone in the water, time to feed the jellies!! Rolling On The Floor Laughing

Just thought you should know that the red-back spider isn't anywhere as deadly as this jelly is.

The anti-toxin or anti-venom must be administered literally within minutes or seconds to be useful,
especially if the victim was in contact with several feet of tentacle. Some beaches are netted off not
for Great Whites but specifically for these jellies. Altho I'm sure they could combine both nets into
an anti shark/jelly net. Some surfers carry the anti-venom with them when in the water, and
lifeguards have it available and are trained to administer it. I also read that people who survive the
sting usually wish they had died because of the extreme pain of this creatures venom.

Just pokin' around....
TuskenRaider


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