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United States/Stamps : Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

 

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carlberky
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13 Dec 2014
04:07:21pm
For months now I've seen several six-stamp Plate blocks of #463 (2 cent) being offered on EBay for $175, based on the premise that that particular serial number sheet contained one or more #467 (5 cent) errors. The listing shows up in both the #463 and #467 searches.

Should I continue to be outraged, or is there some justification for the listing?
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13 Dec 2014
04:39:01pm
re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

I don't know, but have you ever checked the stamp smarter site? It does list reviews of some ebay sellers, and I have found it useful.
http://www.stampsmarter.com/

regards, Theron.


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13 Dec 2014
05:27:23pm
re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

Theron ... very interesting site ... particularly the seller reviews. Checked for the #463 seller, but he was not listed.

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13 Dec 2014
06:28:33pm
re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

But we do know that any six stamp plate block will not contain an error. I assume that that particular plate number is the one for the sheet with the error or am I wrong? So, I guess I can't see the problem. Anyone ready to buy a #467 would know or should know what they are buying.

Am I missing something?

Tad

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13 Dec 2014
06:56:51pm
re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

Carl, Is this the auction you are looking at?

PLATE# BLOCK OF 6 #463 STAMPS-PLATE#7942 FROM THE #467 ERROR SHEET MINT-OG/NH

If so, I do not see the problem as the seller makes no inference or representation that the block contains a 5c error stamp (#463) only that it is...

"A MINT BOTTOM PLATE NUMBER BLOCK OF 6 (#463)STAMPS WITH PLATE #7942,THE ONLY PRINTING PLATE USED FOR THE #467 ERROR SHEET.SEE #467 IN THE CURRENT SCOTT CATALOG.THE PLATE BLOCK IS MINT OG/NEVER HINGED.SCOTT CATALOG VALUE IS $250.00.A GORGEOUS BLOCK THAT WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION TO EVERY COLLECTION."



Perhaps I am looking at a different listing. If so, please send me a PM with the seller's name so I can look him up (please do not post his name in the discussion board).

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13 Dec 2014
07:41:25pm
re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

Bobby ... Yes, that's the auction I'm talking about.
I guess my issue with it is that by tying it to the #467 error sheet, they are asking for $175, when it is available for around $20 as a normal #463.Image Not Found

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13 Dec 2014
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re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

That block of 4 is not a plate block - it is a block of 4 with one of the stamps being a plate number single.
A plate block of Scott #463 consists of 6 stamps and the catalog value in my 2010 Specialized is $250 for a NH block.
Plate #7942 is also listed separately under Scott #467 as a Plate Block of 6 at the same $250 figure NH.
There are numerous stamps that are only listed in Scott as plate blocks of 6 (probably hundreds of them, including some modern issues) - I have never known there to be a market for blocks of 4 with the plate number because there is no catalog value for one. There are catalogs out for plate # singles.
Hope that helps

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13 Dec 2014
08:39:03pm
re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

Webpaper ... my question was "Should I continue to be outraged, or is there some justification for the listing?"
You have definitively answered my question and I sincerely thank you.

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carlberky

13 Dec 2014
04:07:21pm

For months now I've seen several six-stamp Plate blocks of #463 (2 cent) being offered on EBay for $175, based on the premise that that particular serial number sheet contained one or more #467 (5 cent) errors. The listing shows up in both the #463 and #467 searches.

Should I continue to be outraged, or is there some justification for the listing?

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yakimaboy

13 Dec 2014
04:39:01pm

re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

I don't know, but have you ever checked the stamp smarter site? It does list reviews of some ebay sellers, and I have found it useful.
http://www.stampsmarter.com/

regards, Theron.


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13 Dec 2014
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re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

Theron ... very interesting site ... particularly the seller reviews. Checked for the #463 seller, but he was not listed.

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13 Dec 2014
06:28:33pm

re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

But we do know that any six stamp plate block will not contain an error. I assume that that particular plate number is the one for the sheet with the error or am I wrong? So, I guess I can't see the problem. Anyone ready to buy a #467 would know or should know what they are buying.

Am I missing something?

Tad

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13 Dec 2014
06:56:51pm

re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

Carl, Is this the auction you are looking at?

PLATE# BLOCK OF 6 #463 STAMPS-PLATE#7942 FROM THE #467 ERROR SHEET MINT-OG/NH

If so, I do not see the problem as the seller makes no inference or representation that the block contains a 5c error stamp (#463) only that it is...

"A MINT BOTTOM PLATE NUMBER BLOCK OF 6 (#463)STAMPS WITH PLATE #7942,THE ONLY PRINTING PLATE USED FOR THE #467 ERROR SHEET.SEE #467 IN THE CURRENT SCOTT CATALOG.THE PLATE BLOCK IS MINT OG/NEVER HINGED.SCOTT CATALOG VALUE IS $250.00.A GORGEOUS BLOCK THAT WOULD BE A NICE ADDITION TO EVERY COLLECTION."



Perhaps I am looking at a different listing. If so, please send me a PM with the seller's name so I can look him up (please do not post his name in the discussion board).

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13 Dec 2014
07:41:25pm

re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

Bobby ... Yes, that's the auction I'm talking about.
I guess my issue with it is that by tying it to the #467 error sheet, they are asking for $175, when it is available for around $20 as a normal #463.Image Not Found

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13 Dec 2014
08:11:20pm

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re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

That block of 4 is not a plate block - it is a block of 4 with one of the stamps being a plate number single.
A plate block of Scott #463 consists of 6 stamps and the catalog value in my 2010 Specialized is $250 for a NH block.
Plate #7942 is also listed separately under Scott #467 as a Plate Block of 6 at the same $250 figure NH.
There are numerous stamps that are only listed in Scott as plate blocks of 6 (probably hundreds of them, including some modern issues) - I have never known there to be a market for blocks of 4 with the plate number because there is no catalog value for one. There are catalogs out for plate # singles.
Hope that helps

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carlberky

13 Dec 2014
08:39:03pm

re: Is ths a fraud or just buyer beware?

Webpaper ... my question was "Should I continue to be outraged, or is there some justification for the listing?"
You have definitively answered my question and I sincerely thank you.

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