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carabop

03 Dec 2014
01:03:51am
Okay so I went ahead and got a mix of Austria stamps just because the price was something I could afford. I have a friend that collects worldwide, not to sort and put in albums, she only puts them in stock books to look at like a big picture book. So I am going to give her a bunch of them. Beings neither of us know anything about foreign stamps I was wondering if anyone here could point me to maybe a web site or something where I might be able to try identify these stamps. I thought it might be fun to see if I can figure out what I might have but have no clue where to start. Thanks for you help.
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Suzanne

03 Dec 2014
02:29:33am
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http://www.postbeeld.com/en/fsc/search&order=publish_year+desc&exact-country=oo


I'm not sure if this will help you or not. I hope the link works.


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03 Dec 2014
04:05:55am
re: Austria

Hi,
This is also a pretty good site

http://www.stampworld.com/en/maps/Austria/

They may ask you to join after you have searched for a while, but it's all free and doesn't seem to generate any spam emails

Merv

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carabop

03 Dec 2014
11:13:53pm
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Thank you I will check out both sites.

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carabop

03 Dec 2014
11:35:45pm
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cornerpost I was looking at the site you mentioned I was looking at 1867 Newspaper stamp with numbers 46 and 46A. Are the 46 and 46A the Scott catalog numbers for those stamps or just the web site way of numbering the stamps? Sorry for the newbie questions. Just trying to learn a little.

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04 Dec 2014
12:16:52am
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Scott uses a letter prefix (I believe PR) on newspaper stamps, so those numbers would not be Scott catalog numbers..

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carabop

04 Dec 2014
12:48:00am
re: Austria

Thank you Bobby. I a least have some idea of a few of what I have. Using that web site and the year I can go to the library and look at the Scott catalog if they have one for Austria. I sure like this selection of stamps I have gotten. LOL what am I saying I like all my stamps Happy

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04 Dec 2014
01:17:16am
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"...what am I saying I like all my stamps"


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04 Dec 2014
04:08:00am
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Hi carabop,

As Bobby guessed the numbers aren't Scott's - they are the site's own numbering system. Scott are a bit jealous about their numbers, but it's easy enough to use the site and then find the equivalent Scott numbers. Enjoy Austria - they have had some beautiful stamps.
Merv

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04 Dec 2014
09:12:43am
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Merv, if the Austrian stamps are newspaper stamps, from 1867, it can only be P9 (design N5), the sole newspaper issue of the year.

P9 N5 (1kr) vio, type I 75.00 8.50

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04 Dec 2014
10:05:29am
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Hi David,

The 46 and 46A carabop mentioned are the same as Scott's P9 and P9a.

Merv

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carabop

04 Dec 2014
08:22:25pm
re: Austria

I have 1 P9 and 2 P9a in my stamps. I am having fun identify these new stamps.

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malcolm197

07 Dec 2014
05:13:43am
re: Austria

A good general site for world wide stamps. provided that you are not looking for specialised details is "colnect". Be warned that this is not a complete list of stamps but for most highly collected countries it is up to 90% complete - but only on a simplified "face different"basis. I use it for more modern stamps issued since my last catalogue - get the year and purpose of the issue then search for more details on google. Works more than 70% of the time.If you don't know the approximate date of issue it is a little tedious but somewhat easier than trawling the internet.

Malcolm

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07 Dec 2014
10:41:23am
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Inconsistencies with Scott catalogs result in the prefixes for the listings being used differently for the world-wide catalogs and the US Specialized.

Here is a primer about the Scott catalog prefixes, and an exhaustive list of them and what they stand for courtesy of Linn's:

http://www.linns.com/howto/refresher/scott_20040126/refreshercourse.aspx

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carabop

07 Dec 2014
02:53:11pm
re: Austria

Thank you of the good information. I'm still working on identifying these.

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NBStamper

11 May 2015
02:55:07pm
re: Austria

This thread looks to have run its course but thought I would add a pitch for Austrian stamps as someone else did above. Many of Austria's issues are beautifully engraved and I think the country should rank high in terms of collecting interest. The between-wars issues are especially great although some are getting expensive.

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04 Oct 2015
10:14:09am

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For us, here in the States, the Scott Cat. is the bible of stamp collectors as much as we despised it. I try to make sense of the article on Linn's and since I was getting a headache I figure that better quit while I am ahead. I would like to know the rational for numbering basically two identical stamps with different numbers, let's say 145 and 146 and then two completely different stamps as 101 and 101a.
Tony

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04 Oct 2015
01:36:05pm
re: Austria

My understanding re catalogue numbering is that for a notional country numbers 100 and 101, though similar, arrived or were processed at the same time and so given consecutive numbers. Number 100a, however (possibly a different perforation), only arrived weeks or months later and had to be 'slotted in' in that manner to avoid renumbering, which no-one likes. It's possible that 100 and 101 were officially authorised by the issuing country, while 100a only surfaced after sufficient numbers of stamp collectors had noticed the difference and contacted the catalogue editor.

Is this how it works? (Having a Scott intern on the membership would be handy for this website!)

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04 Oct 2015
03:25:16pm

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I can understand the numbering issue with def. stamp and trying to keep them on a chronological order, but my beef is why, for example, the flags issued during the bicentennial era of the US have different numbers while the endangered wildlife or comics have all the same number and only a letter added to differentiate them?
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05 Oct 2015
02:54:58am
re: Austria

Most all of the stamps from Austria can be seen on my site. The index is comprised of thumbnails so you can find what you are looking for very quickly.
Follow this link: http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/austria/austria.html


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05 Oct 2015
11:13:11am
re: Austria

Tony, you cite some of the inconsistency problems that exist within the Scott catalogs. Through the years there have been several different editors of the catalogs. Each added their own cataloging manners. I was told by Scott that the subsequent editors rarely go back and make "adjustments" to earlier listings to bring them in line with the current editorial standards of the catalogs.

While there are basic "laws" in the Scott catalog listings and most must be obeyed, there are plenty of nebulous areas where the inconsistencies come in.

I believe that at least twice, a Scott editor went back and totally revised the catalog numbering. Later there were some minor tweaking of some listings, and the editors got hammered by dealers and collectors for doing it. The problem with changing numbers is that most people do not buy a new catalog set every year. If a number is changed, then it is no longer good in all the previous editions, and confusion reigns.

I think that it has been too long since Scott did a realignment. Some countries don't even have a #1! There are many stamps that should be combined into sets (remember that Scott is NOT a chronological catalog), and too many gaps in numbering, even within sets. Many countries have had many stamps added. These countries now run more with stamps with letters than numbers (125, 125A, 125B, 125C, etc.). Minor numbers and minor letters are very inconsistent. Many should be grouped into sets of their own.

As is commonly stated about me, just some things from my list for when I buy Scott.

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05 Oct 2015
02:03:27pm

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AntoniousRa,
Nice collection! I have mine arranged with vario pages that way I can relocate the stamps at will. Hard to tell about the issues from 1889-1907 without perf. count, seems like you have everyone represented. I only lack on mine #71 plus some of the 10 1/2 perts. otherwise fairly complete but with room to add more.
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carabop

03 Dec 2014
01:03:51am

Okay so I went ahead and got a mix of Austria stamps just because the price was something I could afford. I have a friend that collects worldwide, not to sort and put in albums, she only puts them in stock books to look at like a big picture book. So I am going to give her a bunch of them. Beings neither of us know anything about foreign stamps I was wondering if anyone here could point me to maybe a web site or something where I might be able to try identify these stamps. I thought it might be fun to see if I can figure out what I might have but have no clue where to start. Thanks for you help.
Carolee

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Suzanne
03 Dec 2014
02:29:33am

re: Austria

http://www.postbeeld.com/en/fsc/search&order=publish_year+desc&exact-country=oo


I'm not sure if this will help you or not. I hope the link works.


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cornerpost

03 Dec 2014
04:05:55am

re: Austria

Hi,
This is also a pretty good site

http://www.stampworld.com/en/maps/Austria/

They may ask you to join after you have searched for a while, but it's all free and doesn't seem to generate any spam emails

Merv

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carabop

03 Dec 2014
11:13:53pm

re: Austria

Thank you I will check out both sites.

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carabop

03 Dec 2014
11:35:45pm

re: Austria

cornerpost I was looking at the site you mentioned I was looking at 1867 Newspaper stamp with numbers 46 and 46A. Are the 46 and 46A the Scott catalog numbers for those stamps or just the web site way of numbering the stamps? Sorry for the newbie questions. Just trying to learn a little.

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04 Dec 2014
12:16:52am

re: Austria

Scott uses a letter prefix (I believe PR) on newspaper stamps, so those numbers would not be Scott catalog numbers..

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carabop

04 Dec 2014
12:48:00am

re: Austria

Thank you Bobby. I a least have some idea of a few of what I have. Using that web site and the year I can go to the library and look at the Scott catalog if they have one for Austria. I sure like this selection of stamps I have gotten. LOL what am I saying I like all my stamps Happy

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04 Dec 2014
01:17:16am

re: Austria

"...what am I saying I like all my stamps"


Spoken like a true philatelic fanatic! Thumbs Up

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04 Dec 2014
04:08:00am

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Hi carabop,

As Bobby guessed the numbers aren't Scott's - they are the site's own numbering system. Scott are a bit jealous about their numbers, but it's easy enough to use the site and then find the equivalent Scott numbers. Enjoy Austria - they have had some beautiful stamps.
Merv

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04 Dec 2014
09:12:43am

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Merv, if the Austrian stamps are newspaper stamps, from 1867, it can only be P9 (design N5), the sole newspaper issue of the year.

P9 N5 (1kr) vio, type I 75.00 8.50

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04 Dec 2014
10:05:29am

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Hi David,

The 46 and 46A carabop mentioned are the same as Scott's P9 and P9a.

Merv

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carabop

04 Dec 2014
08:22:25pm

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I have 1 P9 and 2 P9a in my stamps. I am having fun identify these new stamps.

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malcolm197

07 Dec 2014
05:13:43am

re: Austria

A good general site for world wide stamps. provided that you are not looking for specialised details is "colnect". Be warned that this is not a complete list of stamps but for most highly collected countries it is up to 90% complete - but only on a simplified "face different"basis. I use it for more modern stamps issued since my last catalogue - get the year and purpose of the issue then search for more details on google. Works more than 70% of the time.If you don't know the approximate date of issue it is a little tedious but somewhat easier than trawling the internet.

Malcolm

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07 Dec 2014
10:41:23am

re: Austria

Inconsistencies with Scott catalogs result in the prefixes for the listings being used differently for the world-wide catalogs and the US Specialized.

Here is a primer about the Scott catalog prefixes, and an exhaustive list of them and what they stand for courtesy of Linn's:

http://www.linns.com/howto/refresher/scott_20040126/refreshercourse.aspx

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carabop

07 Dec 2014
02:53:11pm

re: Austria

Thank you of the good information. I'm still working on identifying these.

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NBStamper

11 May 2015
02:55:07pm

re: Austria

This thread looks to have run its course but thought I would add a pitch for Austrian stamps as someone else did above. Many of Austria's issues are beautifully engraved and I think the country should rank high in terms of collecting interest. The between-wars issues are especially great although some are getting expensive.

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04 Oct 2015
10:14:09am

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re: Austria

For us, here in the States, the Scott Cat. is the bible of stamp collectors as much as we despised it. I try to make sense of the article on Linn's and since I was getting a headache I figure that better quit while I am ahead. I would like to know the rational for numbering basically two identical stamps with different numbers, let's say 145 and 146 and then two completely different stamps as 101 and 101a.
Tony

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04 Oct 2015
01:36:05pm

re: Austria

My understanding re catalogue numbering is that for a notional country numbers 100 and 101, though similar, arrived or were processed at the same time and so given consecutive numbers. Number 100a, however (possibly a different perforation), only arrived weeks or months later and had to be 'slotted in' in that manner to avoid renumbering, which no-one likes. It's possible that 100 and 101 were officially authorised by the issuing country, while 100a only surfaced after sufficient numbers of stamp collectors had noticed the difference and contacted the catalogue editor.

Is this how it works? (Having a Scott intern on the membership would be handy for this website!)

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04 Oct 2015
03:25:16pm

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re: Austria

I can understand the numbering issue with def. stamp and trying to keep them on a chronological order, but my beef is why, for example, the flags issued during the bicentennial era of the US have different numbers while the endangered wildlife or comics have all the same number and only a letter added to differentiate them?
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05 Oct 2015
02:54:58am

re: Austria

Most all of the stamps from Austria can be seen on my site. The index is comprised of thumbnails so you can find what you are looking for very quickly.
Follow this link: http://mitch.seymourfamily.com/mward/collection/europe/austria/austria.html


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Tony, you cite some of the inconsistency problems that exist within the Scott catalogs. Through the years there have been several different editors of the catalogs. Each added their own cataloging manners. I was told by Scott that the subsequent editors rarely go back and make "adjustments" to earlier listings to bring them in line with the current editorial standards of the catalogs.

While there are basic "laws" in the Scott catalog listings and most must be obeyed, there are plenty of nebulous areas where the inconsistencies come in.

I believe that at least twice, a Scott editor went back and totally revised the catalog numbering. Later there were some minor tweaking of some listings, and the editors got hammered by dealers and collectors for doing it. The problem with changing numbers is that most people do not buy a new catalog set every year. If a number is changed, then it is no longer good in all the previous editions, and confusion reigns.

I think that it has been too long since Scott did a realignment. Some countries don't even have a #1! There are many stamps that should be combined into sets (remember that Scott is NOT a chronological catalog), and too many gaps in numbering, even within sets. Many countries have had many stamps added. These countries now run more with stamps with letters than numbers (125, 125A, 125B, 125C, etc.). Minor numbers and minor letters are very inconsistent. Many should be grouped into sets of their own.

As is commonly stated about me, just some things from my list for when I buy Scott.

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05 Oct 2015
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AntoniousRa,
Nice collection! I have mine arranged with vario pages that way I can relocate the stamps at will. Hard to tell about the issues from 1889-1907 without perf. count, seems like you have everyone represented. I only lack on mine #71 plus some of the 10 1/2 perts. otherwise fairly complete but with room to add more.
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