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jkm0644

30 Nov 2014
10:25:51am
Somehow I cannot find the page to mark items/invoice paid.
HELP!!!
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Jim
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30 Nov 2014
11:49:10am
re: Marking Items Paid

Go to either Approvals or Auction home page, place your cursor over "Buyers," select and click on "My Invoices" from the drop down menu, select the invoice you paid and mark it so.

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jkm0644

30 Nov 2014
02:53:40pm
re: Marking Items Paid

Thanks Bobby,
I now see that option is only for the buyer
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01 Dec 2014
11:22:51am
re: Marking Items Paid

The seller's options are "Shipped" and "Closed". (there is also the option to re-open the Invoice).
I usually close the Invoices after I know the stamps have been received...so buyers, please acknowledge that you have received the shipment...it requires just one click.
All in all it is a great system!
Thanks. rrr...

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01 Dec 2014
03:12:28pm
re: Marking Items Paid

I use "shipped" to keep track of who paid. I have very few buyers who actually take the second step and click "paid". It sure would be great if they did, but as they were nice enough to buy my stamps and pay me promptly I'm sure not going to nitpick about that tiny little detail.

I really can't say enough good things about the folks I've gotten to know through the sales and discussions. Stamporama folks really are the best people!

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22 Dec 2014
06:33:56am
re: Marking Items Paid

I know that I have mentioned this before, but when I put some cash in an envelope or for larger amounts, a check, and turn that envelope over to the tender mercies of a postal clerk, I have not "PAID" anything.
I have simply sent a payment.
When said payment arrives and is safely in the hands of the seller, cash might be considered PAID but if a check was used, not so much, at least not until my check is deposited, sent to my bank to be honored and the amount is cleared by the seller's bank. Then the item is PAID.
I do not know in what world a payment in transition is considered PAID.
A similar situation occurs when some form of money order is sent.

Perhaps PayPal users consider a transaction paid for as soon as the buyer uses his account and clicks "send" although I suspect the frequent complaints about funds being withheld or withdrawn after the individuals thought the sale was complete indicates that while paid might comfort the vast majority of PayPal users, the deal is not done until the deal is done. Since I do not use PayPal, I'll skip what the actual process is with them.

Another curious use of terminology is the notice that pops-up that the invoice has been sent which informs the buyer that the seller has mailed the items
While the word "Invoice" can be used to indicate "goods," I think that most people consider invoice to mean that piece of paper (Digital or printed) that lists the identification of the principles, the items involved, the amounts and additional costs for S&H, not the actual goods.
I believe that that icon should read "Items sent" or "Items shipped" to indicate that the actual goods are in transit not a second copy of an invoice that had already been sent and received.

When Stamporama was just a casual club whose members were all friends, refugees from a news-feed, who had known each other (at least in the cyber world) for some time, such casual terminology was of little consequence. But today the club has grown and its activities have greatly expanded. Some people have joined, not for the conviviality and ambiance of a friendly club, but to sell or buy stamps, period.
To some it is a business.
They seldom enter into the discussions unless they run afoul of some club rule that they never bothered to actually read, and in some cases often fail to respond to messages between members.

To me the modifications of the wordings appear to be a simple matter.

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22 Dec 2014
07:11:26am
re: Marking Items Paid

"Another curious use of terminology is the notice that pops-up that the invoice has been sent which informs the buyer that the seller has mailed the items "



Charlie, the term/word "sent" used in context with both Buyers and Sellers does mean that the invoice (not the goods) has been forwarded from the Seller to the Buyer. When the Seller puts the goods in the mail to the Buyer, he then selects the "mark shipped" tab on the invoice and the notation "shipped" is made to the Buyer.

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23 Dec 2014
10:30:12am
re: Marking Items Paid

Bobby,
This is what I received overnight for items that were won two or three weeks ago and for which payment was sent shortly thereafter.
Mail to and from Canada often takes two to three weeks to be delivered.

So the seller is not sending me the invoice which I already received and sent payment for, he is sending me the items or the shipment.


************************************************
Stamporama Invoice
Dec 22 at 10:28 PM

To

me

Charlie Jensen,
invoice number 16 has been shipped.

Please click here to view the
invoice.

When you have received the invoice shipment in the mail, you can acknowledge the receipt of the shipment by clicking here.

*******************************************
My first reaction when this happens and there are several weeks involved is to immediately think that somehow I forgot to send the payment and that I look like a dame fool at best, or a deadbeat bidder at worst.
My sometimes drifting memory is partly at fault, two weeks feels like a lifetime.
Then after slipping a nitro tablet beneath my tongue and checking what records I keep, I calm down and reread the note and the message I usually include with the payment. Only then do I realize that I've been skunked again by the use of the word "Invoice" where "shipment" or "items" is intended.
Now I'll admit that this is a small thing in the grand scale of life, but to fusspots like me it seems to be a "Curious" usage.

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23 Dec 2014
10:59:40am
re: Marking Items Paid

Charlie

I used to live in the State of Texas, until I moved to the State of Maine. Now it seems I live in the State of Confusion. Age? Senility? Too much time with stamps? Who knows. Just takin' life as it comes these days!

Bobby

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24 Dec 2014
09:03:39am
re: Marking Items Paid

Tomato tomato
keep on Paiding, Senting, Invoiceing and importantly communicating

Oh and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

May we each find a true rarity next year (dibs) and find comfort in our stamp fellowship

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jkm0644

30 Nov 2014
10:25:51am

Somehow I cannot find the page to mark items/invoice paid.
HELP!!!
Thanks,
Jim

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30 Nov 2014
11:49:10am

re: Marking Items Paid

Go to either Approvals or Auction home page, place your cursor over "Buyers," select and click on "My Invoices" from the drop down menu, select the invoice you paid and mark it so.

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jkm0644

30 Nov 2014
02:53:40pm

re: Marking Items Paid

Thanks Bobby,
I now see that option is only for the buyer
Thanks

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Retired Consultant APS#186030
01 Dec 2014
11:22:51am

re: Marking Items Paid

The seller's options are "Shipped" and "Closed". (there is also the option to re-open the Invoice).
I usually close the Invoices after I know the stamps have been received...so buyers, please acknowledge that you have received the shipment...it requires just one click.
All in all it is a great system!
Thanks. rrr...

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philatelia

01 Dec 2014
03:12:28pm

re: Marking Items Paid

I use "shipped" to keep track of who paid. I have very few buyers who actually take the second step and click "paid". It sure would be great if they did, but as they were nice enough to buy my stamps and pay me promptly I'm sure not going to nitpick about that tiny little detail.

I really can't say enough good things about the folks I've gotten to know through the sales and discussions. Stamporama folks really are the best people!

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"August 2023 - selling penny start bargain lots on EBay - https://www.ebay.com/str/philatelia"

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
22 Dec 2014
06:33:56am

re: Marking Items Paid

I know that I have mentioned this before, but when I put some cash in an envelope or for larger amounts, a check, and turn that envelope over to the tender mercies of a postal clerk, I have not "PAID" anything.
I have simply sent a payment.
When said payment arrives and is safely in the hands of the seller, cash might be considered PAID but if a check was used, not so much, at least not until my check is deposited, sent to my bank to be honored and the amount is cleared by the seller's bank. Then the item is PAID.
I do not know in what world a payment in transition is considered PAID.
A similar situation occurs when some form of money order is sent.

Perhaps PayPal users consider a transaction paid for as soon as the buyer uses his account and clicks "send" although I suspect the frequent complaints about funds being withheld or withdrawn after the individuals thought the sale was complete indicates that while paid might comfort the vast majority of PayPal users, the deal is not done until the deal is done. Since I do not use PayPal, I'll skip what the actual process is with them.

Another curious use of terminology is the notice that pops-up that the invoice has been sent which informs the buyer that the seller has mailed the items
While the word "Invoice" can be used to indicate "goods," I think that most people consider invoice to mean that piece of paper (Digital or printed) that lists the identification of the principles, the items involved, the amounts and additional costs for S&H, not the actual goods.
I believe that that icon should read "Items sent" or "Items shipped" to indicate that the actual goods are in transit not a second copy of an invoice that had already been sent and received.

When Stamporama was just a casual club whose members were all friends, refugees from a news-feed, who had known each other (at least in the cyber world) for some time, such casual terminology was of little consequence. But today the club has grown and its activities have greatly expanded. Some people have joined, not for the conviviality and ambiance of a friendly club, but to sell or buy stamps, period.
To some it is a business.
They seldom enter into the discussions unless they run afoul of some club rule that they never bothered to actually read, and in some cases often fail to respond to messages between members.

To me the modifications of the wordings appear to be a simple matter.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "

They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
22 Dec 2014
07:11:26am

re: Marking Items Paid

"Another curious use of terminology is the notice that pops-up that the invoice has been sent which informs the buyer that the seller has mailed the items "



Charlie, the term/word "sent" used in context with both Buyers and Sellers does mean that the invoice (not the goods) has been forwarded from the Seller to the Buyer. When the Seller puts the goods in the mail to the Buyer, he then selects the "mark shipped" tab on the invoice and the notation "shipped" is made to the Buyer.

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"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. -Edmund Burke"

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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
23 Dec 2014
10:30:12am

re: Marking Items Paid

Bobby,
This is what I received overnight for items that were won two or three weeks ago and for which payment was sent shortly thereafter.
Mail to and from Canada often takes two to three weeks to be delivered.

So the seller is not sending me the invoice which I already received and sent payment for, he is sending me the items or the shipment.


************************************************
Stamporama Invoice
Dec 22 at 10:28 PM

To

me

Charlie Jensen,
invoice number 16 has been shipped.

Please click here to view the
invoice.

When you have received the invoice shipment in the mail, you can acknowledge the receipt of the shipment by clicking here.

*******************************************
My first reaction when this happens and there are several weeks involved is to immediately think that somehow I forgot to send the payment and that I look like a dame fool at best, or a deadbeat bidder at worst.
My sometimes drifting memory is partly at fault, two weeks feels like a lifetime.
Then after slipping a nitro tablet beneath my tongue and checking what records I keep, I calm down and reread the note and the message I usually include with the payment. Only then do I realize that I've been skunked again by the use of the word "Invoice" where "shipment" or "items" is intended.
Now I'll admit that this is a small thing in the grand scale of life, but to fusspots like me it seems to be a "Curious" usage.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "

They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -Benjamin Franklin
23 Dec 2014
10:59:40am

re: Marking Items Paid

Charlie

I used to live in the State of Texas, until I moved to the State of Maine. Now it seems I live in the State of Confusion. Age? Senility? Too much time with stamps? Who knows. Just takin' life as it comes these days!

Bobby

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24 Dec 2014
09:03:39am

re: Marking Items Paid

Tomato tomato
keep on Paiding, Senting, Invoiceing and importantly communicating

Oh and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

May we each find a true rarity next year (dibs) and find comfort in our stamp fellowship

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