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don't know anything about the legality of owning a mint copy; I have heard, though, they are not to be removed from cover, not for legal issues, but because they don't stand up to soaking.
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10:44:23am
Patience is required to soak them from paper.I have a few that I managed to separate from the paper and two mint examples.
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Charlie I won`t
tell...lol
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I don't think it's illegal to own one.
This is my straight-edge copy, they also come with kiss die-cut perforations. De La Rue printed in Tete-Beche style though not strictly a tete-Beche pair of course. This was done for ease of cancelling by the Postal teller.
Many types exist and they do make for an interesting sideline GB or (specifically) Machin collection.
Congrats to Charlie on managing to soak them off piece. I have tried and failed on a few occasions. I need to get myself over to Florida for a first hand lesson !! 
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A closer look at the wording !
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Wow I have both the straight edge and kiss die perforations...The illegal note was passed on to me by a Machin collector in London. who works with the editing of the SG publication....
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It isn't illegal as far as I know to own one, as an unused copy is actually unissued and has no value - it is just a label. However the post office employee handing it to you is almost certainly contravening regulations.
The system is that the employee takes the package from you,ascertains the class of mail, and weight, takes your money, issues AND affixes the stamp and puts it into the mailbag behind the counter. The customer does not handle it at all, once it goes to the clerk.
Therefore any unused labels have been "liberated" from the post office counter, post office stores or printer without authorization.
Malcolm
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Intersting ......my friend must have connections.....
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02:44:05pm
A short rubbing alcohol bath and very carefully extending a sharply pointed tongs slowly usually gets it done, but I'll admit it is a fifty-fifty mission.
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02:25:30pm
Simply lifting the paper from the stamp will fulfill the purpose of the die cuts you can see surrounding the Queen's head, they will go one way while the remainder will part company with the rest of the stamp. That is why I suggest carefully inserting the #908 sharp (lethal) tongs between the stamp and the paper. If you work the point here and there slowly the whole label can be kept intact. Carelessly tugging the one layer from the other is doomed to failure.
I suppose a sharp thin knife blade might also be able to be worked between the layers as well.
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Does anyone on here collect these or are able to obtain reasonable quantities, gold ones and especially the new white ones.
I am looking for some more material to expand my exhibit. Would also like some on covers if possible.
Garry Nicol
Stratford
New Zealand
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album here ...
https://www.digitalsellz.com/Fandomate
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09:38:02am
Ok I have several samples of GB Horizon labels ...The gold labels with Royal Mail and the large A on them.. I am told they are collectable but that it is illegal to own a mint issue ....Phew mine are all used..... I hoping to find out more about them....
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re: Horizon labels
don't know anything about the legality of owning a mint copy; I have heard, though, they are not to be removed from cover, not for legal issues, but because they don't stand up to soaking.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
10 Nov 2014
10:44:23am
re: Horizon labels
Patience is required to soak them from paper.I have a few that I managed to separate from the paper and two mint examples.
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re: Horizon labels
I don't think it's illegal to own one.
This is my straight-edge copy, they also come with kiss die-cut perforations. De La Rue printed in Tete-Beche style though not strictly a tete-Beche pair of course. This was done for ease of cancelling by the Postal teller.
Many types exist and they do make for an interesting sideline GB or (specifically) Machin collection.
Congrats to Charlie on managing to soak them off piece. I have tried and failed on a few occasions. I need to get myself over to Florida for a first hand lesson !!
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A closer look at the wording !
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06:31:09pm
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Wow I have both the straight edge and kiss die perforations...The illegal note was passed on to me by a Machin collector in London. who works with the editing of the SG publication....
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09:36:32am
re: Horizon labels
It isn't illegal as far as I know to own one, as an unused copy is actually unissued and has no value - it is just a label. However the post office employee handing it to you is almost certainly contravening regulations.
The system is that the employee takes the package from you,ascertains the class of mail, and weight, takes your money, issues AND affixes the stamp and puts it into the mailbag behind the counter. The customer does not handle it at all, once it goes to the clerk.
Therefore any unused labels have been "liberated" from the post office counter, post office stores or printer without authorization.
Malcolm
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12:55:44pm
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Intersting ......my friend must have connections.....
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
11 Nov 2014
02:44:05pm
re: Horizon labels
A short rubbing alcohol bath and very carefully extending a sharply pointed tongs slowly usually gets it done, but I'll admit it is a fifty-fifty mission.
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Silence in the face of adversity is the father of complicity and collusion, the first cousins of conspiracy..
26 Nov 2014
02:25:30pm
re: Horizon labels
Simply lifting the paper from the stamp will fulfill the purpose of the die cuts you can see surrounding the Queen's head, they will go one way while the remainder will part company with the rest of the stamp. That is why I suggest carefully inserting the #908 sharp (lethal) tongs between the stamp and the paper. If you work the point here and there slowly the whole label can be kept intact. Carelessly tugging the one layer from the other is doomed to failure.
I suppose a sharp thin knife blade might also be able to be worked between the layers as well.
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04:32:00am
re: Horizon labels
Does anyone on here collect these or are able to obtain reasonable quantities, gold ones and especially the new white ones.
I am looking for some more material to expand my exhibit. Would also like some on covers if possible.
Garry Nicol
Stratford
New Zealand
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re: Horizon labels
album here ...
https://www.digitalsellz.com/Fandomate
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