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General Philatelic/Newcomer Cnr : Dennison Hinges anyone?

 

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08 Nov 2014
06:06:18pm
What a surprising find this was. I've never seen Dennison Hinges like this, only the way I used to buy them, in packets of 1000 hinges for 25 cents. I can't even believe there are so many hinges still in the box and notice how they have curled together over the years. The box is just about the same size as a small box of matches, but is 7/8" in thickness.

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23 Nov 2014
06:53:46pm
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Anyone know how old this is?

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23 Nov 2014
07:43:43pm
re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

I asked a friend and customer, who is not a member of Stamporama, about these since he actually collects old hinges (and advertising covers that deal with hinges!)

His response is:

I've seen a few old boxes in my time but not this one. My guess would be sometime in the 1940s but I could be wrong and they could be as early as the late 1930s. By the 1950s boxes were being replaced by paper packets.

The owner could try contacting Dennison's to see if they have any kind of archive or museum which would help date this box. Another approach would be to go through old Dennison catalogues or even things like back issues of the APS looking for ads. This approach has helped me identify some of my other hinge tins. Even Dennison advertising covers might help.

If the owner is a member of the APS there was an article in the August 2013 edition of the American Philatelist (Vol. 127, No. 8O)


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23 Nov 2014
09:09:02pm
re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

Thanks for the interesting information. Maybe I should pursue this subject further.
Yes, I am an APS member, but I do not keep the magazines around, but take them to a friend or else the stamp club.
Where ever this box has been, it has been kept "high and dry" since the hinges are still loose and the box in excellent condition.
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23 Nov 2014
09:25:40pm
re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

Mike, as a member of APS you have access to back issues of the American Philatelist. Go to American Philatelic Society and select the "services" drop down tag.

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23 Nov 2014
10:04:27pm
re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

OK Bobby,
I'll give that a try tomorrow. It's time for my beauty sleep now, and boy do I need it.
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23 Nov 2014
10:28:30pm
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On several occasions I have asked the American Philatelic Research Library at APS to help with research. The staff are incredibly accommodating, and the cost is minimal. I expect you could learn about that box of hinges for much less than the cost of a packet of original Dennison hinges!

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24 Nov 2014
11:15:02am
re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

Taken from the American Philatelist December 2012::::

The exact year Dennison began manufacturing stamp hinges is not known. In truth, as major as Dennison hinges are to our hobby, they were always a very small part of the overall Dennison Manufacturing Company. But much evidence points to the early 1930s as the birth of the Dennison hinge.

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Mike, The shirt says "Trust me I am a Philatelist".

24 Nov 2014
12:30:45pm
re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

I just checked the article about Dennison Manufacturing Company in the AP and found it quite interesting. It sounds like the box the author described was the same as the one I have.
Will pursue this farther and let you know what I find out.
Thanks for all of the good information!
Mike

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24 Nov 2014
08:48:28pm
re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

APS article on Dennison hinges.
http://digital.ipcprintservices.com/iphone/article.php?id=1231193&id_issue=133838&src=&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

I still have a good supply of Dennison hinges, ones from the fifties I have are pre-folded, where as the ones I have from the forties are not,they appear just like the ones in the box above, but are in a paper packet.
My guess on the box above is, it's from the thirties.
I started collecting stamps in 1944,at that time Dennison hinges were sold in paper packets, know this, because I still have one of my original packets from my early stamp collecting days.


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24 Nov 2014
09:06:05pm
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Off subject to David Giles, thanks for the card,Texan!!

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Domarok

26 Feb 2015
11:38:33am
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I was wondering what happened to Dennison hinges. Speaking to an older dealer, he said that the company was sold, including the formula/recipe for the glue and the new owner chose to keep it under wraps and not produce it.
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26 Feb 2015
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re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

When I was actively hinging in the late 90s I spoke directly with Hugh Goldberg at Subway Stamp shop. At that time he was very optimistic that he could get the formulation right; he already had the equipment in place. From what I can remember, the formulation and application of the gum was lost. I wonder how this can be? I bet that some young operator or engineer of the time may be able to enlighten us, if not held to a secrecy agreement. I did not take the query any further as career got in the way. I'm a chemical engineer, so I was (and am) very interested in the process.

I have old Dennisons, original in pack, Fold-O-hinges and the Subway Dennis hinges. The new Dennis hinges in the early 2000s did not meet the Dennison standard. Anybody want them??Big Grin

On a related note - I was stripping some stamps from my US National - mounted in 1988 with old Dennisons. They came off so clean, I was amazed.


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26 Feb 2015
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I try to get packages old Dennisons when I can, but they normally sell for more than $20 on eBayAngry I was at a local stamp show a few weeks ago and someone was selling them for $10 a pack, and I happyly sagged up all he had. I use the old Fold-O-Hinges as my general use hinges and keep the Dennisons for 'better material' that don’t quite meet my criteria for mounts. I've always felt that the old Fold-O-Hinges are the second best next to Dennisons, but have no real data to back up that claim.


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26 Feb 2015
01:34:46pm
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Back in the day, before I went with the mounts, I had the same process Dennison for most stamps and the Harco Fold-O-Hinges for the backup. I agree they were second best. The other brands available at the time seemed to always leave hinge remnants or would damage the stamp when you pulled off the hinge.

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Mike, The shirt says "Trust me I am a Philatelist".
08 Nov 2014
06:06:18pm

What a surprising find this was. I've never seen Dennison Hinges like this, only the way I used to buy them, in packets of 1000 hinges for 25 cents. I can't even believe there are so many hinges still in the box and notice how they have curled together over the years. The box is just about the same size as a small box of matches, but is 7/8" in thickness.

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Anyone know how old this is?

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re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

I asked a friend and customer, who is not a member of Stamporama, about these since he actually collects old hinges (and advertising covers that deal with hinges!)

His response is:

I've seen a few old boxes in my time but not this one. My guess would be sometime in the 1940s but I could be wrong and they could be as early as the late 1930s. By the 1950s boxes were being replaced by paper packets.

The owner could try contacting Dennison's to see if they have any kind of archive or museum which would help date this box. Another approach would be to go through old Dennison catalogues or even things like back issues of the APS looking for ads. This approach has helped me identify some of my other hinge tins. Even Dennison advertising covers might help.

If the owner is a member of the APS there was an article in the August 2013 edition of the American Philatelist (Vol. 127, No. 8O)


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Mike, The shirt says "Trust me I am a Philatelist".
23 Nov 2014
09:09:02pm

re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

Thanks for the interesting information. Maybe I should pursue this subject further.
Yes, I am an APS member, but I do not keep the magazines around, but take them to a friend or else the stamp club.
Where ever this box has been, it has been kept "high and dry" since the hinges are still loose and the box in excellent condition.
Mike


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re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

Mike, as a member of APS you have access to back issues of the American Philatelist. Go to American Philatelic Society and select the "services" drop down tag.

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23 Nov 2014
10:04:27pm

re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

OK Bobby,
I'll give that a try tomorrow. It's time for my beauty sleep now, and boy do I need it.
Mike

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23 Nov 2014
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re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

On several occasions I have asked the American Philatelic Research Library at APS to help with research. The staff are incredibly accommodating, and the cost is minimal. I expect you could learn about that box of hinges for much less than the cost of a packet of original Dennison hinges!

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24 Nov 2014
11:15:02am

re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

Taken from the American Philatelist December 2012::::

The exact year Dennison began manufacturing stamp hinges is not known. In truth, as major as Dennison hinges are to our hobby, they were always a very small part of the overall Dennison Manufacturing Company. But much evidence points to the early 1930s as the birth of the Dennison hinge.

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Mike, The shirt says "Trust me I am a Philatelist".
24 Nov 2014
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re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

I just checked the article about Dennison Manufacturing Company in the AP and found it quite interesting. It sounds like the box the author described was the same as the one I have.
Will pursue this farther and let you know what I find out.
Thanks for all of the good information!
Mike

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24 Nov 2014
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re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

APS article on Dennison hinges.
http://digital.ipcprintservices.com/iphone/article.php?id=1231193&id_issue=133838&src=&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

I still have a good supply of Dennison hinges, ones from the fifties I have are pre-folded, where as the ones I have from the forties are not,they appear just like the ones in the box above, but are in a paper packet.
My guess on the box above is, it's from the thirties.
I started collecting stamps in 1944,at that time Dennison hinges were sold in paper packets, know this, because I still have one of my original packets from my early stamp collecting days.


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Off subject to David Giles, thanks for the card,Texan!!

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Domarok

26 Feb 2015
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re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

I was wondering what happened to Dennison hinges. Speaking to an older dealer, he said that the company was sold, including the formula/recipe for the glue and the new owner chose to keep it under wraps and not produce it.
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re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

When I was actively hinging in the late 90s I spoke directly with Hugh Goldberg at Subway Stamp shop. At that time he was very optimistic that he could get the formulation right; he already had the equipment in place. From what I can remember, the formulation and application of the gum was lost. I wonder how this can be? I bet that some young operator or engineer of the time may be able to enlighten us, if not held to a secrecy agreement. I did not take the query any further as career got in the way. I'm a chemical engineer, so I was (and am) very interested in the process.

I have old Dennisons, original in pack, Fold-O-hinges and the Subway Dennis hinges. The new Dennis hinges in the early 2000s did not meet the Dennison standard. Anybody want them??Big Grin

On a related note - I was stripping some stamps from my US National - mounted in 1988 with old Dennisons. They came off so clean, I was amazed.


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26 Feb 2015
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re: Dennison Hinges anyone?

I try to get packages old Dennisons when I can, but they normally sell for more than $20 on eBayAngry I was at a local stamp show a few weeks ago and someone was selling them for $10 a pack, and I happyly sagged up all he had. I use the old Fold-O-Hinges as my general use hinges and keep the Dennisons for 'better material' that don’t quite meet my criteria for mounts. I've always felt that the old Fold-O-Hinges are the second best next to Dennisons, but have no real data to back up that claim.


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26 Feb 2015
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Back in the day, before I went with the mounts, I had the same process Dennison for most stamps and the Harco Fold-O-Hinges for the backup. I agree they were second best. The other brands available at the time seemed to always leave hinge remnants or would damage the stamp when you pulled off the hinge.

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