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01 Nov 2014
09:04:16pm
Hello, all ...

I'm not a dedicated postmark collector, but most of my stamps are used, and I like to record some general information about the cancel when it's legible. Which brings up the problem of identifying towns for which I only have a partial name.

I've been using the gazetteer at www.fallingrain.com/world/index.html for a while, now, and have found it very useful if I have at least the front part of the name. If I have only the tail of the name, well, not so much. Unfortunately, the site doesn't offer a partial name search.

What online world-wide gazetteer do other members use? I'm interested in one that offers a partial-name search, and that also lists defunct towns, as well as towns currently in operation. I can't be sure fallingrain.com lists defunct towns, but I've never searched for an identifiable town and not found a record.

Thanks.

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01 Nov 2014
09:57:03pm
re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Try the NGA Geonet Names server at http://geonames.nga.mil/gns/html/
Just as a test, I searched Germany for towns that include my last name "lingen". Returned about 700 hits! Here is a sample:

Ailingen
Bahnhof Solingen-Ohligs
Bahnhof Solingen-Wald
Esslingen-Sirnau
Forst Willingen
Gräfrath
Rinklingen
Ruine Harpolingen
Ruine Wieladingen
Saarwellingen
Salingen
Sandlingen
Schelingen
Schelklingen
Schierlingen
Schillingen
Schlingen
Schlingen-Bach
Schlingengrund
Schlingenhof
Schlingenthal
Schneflingen
Schneidlingen
Schnellingen
Schnittlingen
Schnürpflingen
Schöttlingen
Schülingen
Schwalingen
Schwemlingen
Seidelklingen
Senglingen
Sermlingenhof
Seulingen
Siglingen
Sindlingen
Sipplingen
Sirnau
Sittlingen
Smarlingen
Söflingen
Söglingen
Sohlingen
Söhlingen
Solingen
Solingen-Gräfrath
Söllingen
Söllingen
Söllingen
Sprendlingen
Sprendlingen
Sprenklingen
Stedtlingen
Steinklingen
Steißlingen
Stelingen
Stellingen
Stirpe-Ölingen
Stötterlingen
Strücklingen
Stühlingen
Südlingen
Sulingen
Süplingen
Süpplingen
Süpplingenburg
Talsteußlingen
Teglingen
Teplingen
Thörlingen
Tietlingen
Treschklingen
Treuchtlingen
Tumlingen
Tuttlingen
Twieflingen
Twillingen
Ãœberlingen
Ãœberlingen am Ried
Uenglingen
Ãœhlingen
Unlingen
Unter Hiltersklingen
Unterailingen
Unterbichtlingen
Unteriflingen
Unterinzlingen
Unterklingen
Unterklingenbach
Unterklingensporn
Unterklingenthal
Unterkrälingen
Untermedlingen
Unterröblingen
Untertüllingen
Unterwilflingen
Ãœplingen
Vehlingen

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02 Nov 2014
04:27:18am
re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Hi Everyone;

@ MinorFaults;

I have had the same problem with small definitive stamps, where only 1/3 to 1/2 of the letters will show. Wikipedia has lists of the towns of most all states in the US, Plus most foreign countries.

This is what I used for England; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_in_England, and another for Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc. Then when I arrive there I use the menu tool "Edit > Find in this page", which will find a string of letters in the beginning, middle or the end of a town name. It is available in the Firefox browser and I think it is also in the "Edit" menu on Internet Explorer.

However there is something I ran into, that won't work for my method or Roy's. If a post office is located in a neighborhood of a City, say for instance Charing Cross, which is a neighborhood in London, it will not be on the list. Another problem is the Royal Post sometimes has an office in a major rail station, which is not a town, and isn't on the Wiki list. The cancel will of course show Charing Cross, or the name of the tube station, but there is no way to always know that it isn't a town.

I just took a look at your Global Gazetteer link, and noticed that you need to first know what county or borough the town is in, but the Wiki lets you search the whole of England on one screen, which seems easier.

@ Roy;

Thank you for the link Roy, I will try that one out next time I'm doing research on small towns.

Keep on searchin'
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02 Nov 2014
09:38:43am
re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

A simple tool I use, (yes a simple tool, for a simple person LOL), is to push down the "Ctrl and F" on your keyboard, a box will open up near the top right of your screen. You type in a name, part of a name, or number, and get a lot of responses in return, that you can expand further on. I haven't tried town names yet, but use it for finding lot numbers, catalog numbers, country names in the auction, etc, etc.
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02 Nov 2014
10:41:17am
re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Roy ...

Wow, that's quite a site! I think it's what I'm looking for, but I'll have to play with it for a while to get familiar with its workings and terminology. It does seem to be a bit of a mouse built to government specifications (i.e. an elephant). I particularly like the disclaimer, "The names, variants and associated data may not reflect the views of the United States Government on the sovereignty over geographic features." I translate that as, "Them furriners say this little 'ole place is a real state/county/town/village in Lower Slobovia, but whadda they know."

Thank you. This will be very helpful.

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02 Nov 2014
10:51:45am
re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Let me know if you have any questions on using the site. The "Text" search is what you want, and specific to your request of not having the starting letters, you want to choose "Contains" from the drop down box on the search page.

Note that it gives not only town names, but other geographical features as well.

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02 Nov 2014
06:10:55pm
re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Roy, you just ruined my plans for the next several months as I will be busy decoding the thousand or so Machin "Almost SOTNs" I had set aside to search my Fodor's United Kingdom vacation guidebook and British Auto club highway maps and Index.

Over the years I acquired a stack of recent used guidebooks for various countries and when confronted with a partial name on something worthwhile spent hours combing their index pages.
It worked, but was a slow process.

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malcolm197

07 Dec 2014
05:55:55am
re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

For UK postmarks there is a site" philately-ttrr. org" which will identify Victorian post town possibilities from any string of letters. As there were many more Victorian post offices than there are today - most modern towns can be identified ( new towns and name changes excepted). Sub post offices in suburbs are not included. Additionally there are comprehensive GB postmark articles in "philaticsannex" and "philatelicweb.com".

All these of course are only useful for CDS ( counter date stamps ) - mechanised mail uses generic postmarks which are only vaguely geographical ( and often invented "places" which only exist on the post office planet, but describe adequately {or not} the catchment area).It should be noted that on the POP (Post Office Planet ) delivery areas do not necessarily correspond with collections.

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01 Nov 2014
09:04:16pm

Hello, all ...

I'm not a dedicated postmark collector, but most of my stamps are used, and I like to record some general information about the cancel when it's legible. Which brings up the problem of identifying towns for which I only have a partial name.

I've been using the gazetteer at www.fallingrain.com/world/index.html for a while, now, and have found it very useful if I have at least the front part of the name. If I have only the tail of the name, well, not so much. Unfortunately, the site doesn't offer a partial name search.

What online world-wide gazetteer do other members use? I'm interested in one that offers a partial-name search, and that also lists defunct towns, as well as towns currently in operation. I can't be sure fallingrain.com lists defunct towns, but I've never searched for an identifiable town and not found a record.

Thanks.

MinorFaults


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01 Nov 2014
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re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Try the NGA Geonet Names server at http://geonames.nga.mil/gns/html/
Just as a test, I searched Germany for towns that include my last name "lingen". Returned about 700 hits! Here is a sample:

Ailingen
Bahnhof Solingen-Ohligs
Bahnhof Solingen-Wald
Esslingen-Sirnau
Forst Willingen
Gräfrath
Rinklingen
Ruine Harpolingen
Ruine Wieladingen
Saarwellingen
Salingen
Sandlingen
Schelingen
Schelklingen
Schierlingen
Schillingen
Schlingen
Schlingen-Bach
Schlingengrund
Schlingenhof
Schlingenthal
Schneflingen
Schneidlingen
Schnellingen
Schnittlingen
Schnürpflingen
Schöttlingen
Schülingen
Schwalingen
Schwemlingen
Seidelklingen
Senglingen
Sermlingenhof
Seulingen
Siglingen
Sindlingen
Sipplingen
Sirnau
Sittlingen
Smarlingen
Söflingen
Söglingen
Sohlingen
Söhlingen
Solingen
Solingen-Gräfrath
Söllingen
Söllingen
Söllingen
Sprendlingen
Sprendlingen
Sprenklingen
Stedtlingen
Steinklingen
Steißlingen
Stelingen
Stellingen
Stirpe-Ölingen
Stötterlingen
Strücklingen
Stühlingen
Südlingen
Sulingen
Süplingen
Süpplingen
Süpplingenburg
Talsteußlingen
Teglingen
Teplingen
Thörlingen
Tietlingen
Treschklingen
Treuchtlingen
Tumlingen
Tuttlingen
Twieflingen
Twillingen
Ãœberlingen
Ãœberlingen am Ried
Uenglingen
Ãœhlingen
Unlingen
Unter Hiltersklingen
Unterailingen
Unterbichtlingen
Unteriflingen
Unterinzlingen
Unterklingen
Unterklingenbach
Unterklingensporn
Unterklingenthal
Unterkrälingen
Untermedlingen
Unterröblingen
Untertüllingen
Unterwilflingen
Ãœplingen
Vehlingen

Roy


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02 Nov 2014
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re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Hi Everyone;

@ MinorFaults;

I have had the same problem with small definitive stamps, where only 1/3 to 1/2 of the letters will show. Wikipedia has lists of the towns of most all states in the US, Plus most foreign countries.

This is what I used for England; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_towns_in_England, and another for Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland etc. Then when I arrive there I use the menu tool "Edit > Find in this page", which will find a string of letters in the beginning, middle or the end of a town name. It is available in the Firefox browser and I think it is also in the "Edit" menu on Internet Explorer.

However there is something I ran into, that won't work for my method or Roy's. If a post office is located in a neighborhood of a City, say for instance Charing Cross, which is a neighborhood in London, it will not be on the list. Another problem is the Royal Post sometimes has an office in a major rail station, which is not a town, and isn't on the Wiki list. The cancel will of course show Charing Cross, or the name of the tube station, but there is no way to always know that it isn't a town.

I just took a look at your Global Gazetteer link, and noticed that you need to first know what county or borough the town is in, but the Wiki lets you search the whole of England on one screen, which seems easier.

@ Roy;

Thank you for the link Roy, I will try that one out next time I'm doing research on small towns.

Keep on searchin'
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re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

A simple tool I use, (yes a simple tool, for a simple person LOL), is to push down the "Ctrl and F" on your keyboard, a box will open up near the top right of your screen. You type in a name, part of a name, or number, and get a lot of responses in return, that you can expand further on. I haven't tried town names yet, but use it for finding lot numbers, catalog numbers, country names in the auction, etc, etc.
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02 Nov 2014
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re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Roy ...

Wow, that's quite a site! I think it's what I'm looking for, but I'll have to play with it for a while to get familiar with its workings and terminology. It does seem to be a bit of a mouse built to government specifications (i.e. an elephant). I particularly like the disclaimer, "The names, variants and associated data may not reflect the views of the United States Government on the sovereignty over geographic features." I translate that as, "Them furriners say this little 'ole place is a real state/county/town/village in Lower Slobovia, but whadda they know."

Thank you. This will be very helpful.

MinorFaults

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re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Let me know if you have any questions on using the site. The "Text" search is what you want, and specific to your request of not having the starting letters, you want to choose "Contains" from the drop down box on the search page.

Note that it gives not only town names, but other geographical features as well.

Roy

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02 Nov 2014
06:10:55pm

re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

Roy, you just ruined my plans for the next several months as I will be busy decoding the thousand or so Machin "Almost SOTNs" I had set aside to search my Fodor's United Kingdom vacation guidebook and British Auto club highway maps and Index.

Over the years I acquired a stack of recent used guidebooks for various countries and when confronted with a partial name on something worthwhile spent hours combing their index pages.
It worked, but was a slow process.

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".... You may think you understood what you thought I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you think you heard is not what I thought I meant. .... "
malcolm197

07 Dec 2014
05:55:55am

re: Online Gazetteer - Which Is Your Favorite?

For UK postmarks there is a site" philately-ttrr. org" which will identify Victorian post town possibilities from any string of letters. As there were many more Victorian post offices than there are today - most modern towns can be identified ( new towns and name changes excepted). Sub post offices in suburbs are not included. Additionally there are comprehensive GB postmark articles in "philaticsannex" and "philatelicweb.com".

All these of course are only useful for CDS ( counter date stamps ) - mechanised mail uses generic postmarks which are only vaguely geographical ( and often invented "places" which only exist on the post office planet, but describe adequately {or not} the catchment area).It should be noted that on the POP (Post Office Planet ) delivery areas do not necessarily correspond with collections.

Malcolm

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