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littleriverphil
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25 Oct 2014
12:47:49pm
As a collector of U.S. Departmental stamps, I am always looking for varieties. I found two in this one stamp. As one of the seven Departmental stamps printed from a 200 subject plate, I cannot tell if this Imprint capture is position 5L, 5R, 6L, or 6R as the inprint was placed above and below the center of each half of the sheet.

The other variety that this stamp displays is the kiss of the overprint. It is unusual as most kisses show on top of the overprint, this one is under the overprint. It shows strongly under the S, lightly under the I and again strongly under the second E and the N. I have to wonder why the other letters didn't leave a trace. Was it a double kiss? the kiss left by the S very closely matches the uninked spot in the bottom of the S.


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25 Oct 2014
02:31:08pm
re: A double Variety

Hi Everyone;

I can't see anything there at all, except a stamp!! They should clone your eyes for the next Hubble telescope, hey? Laughing

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25 Oct 2014
09:16:35pm
re: A double Variety

Very interesting Littleriverphil,
So it's not just an inking bleed, but a constant variety? Have you found that pattern in other examples?
Dan C.

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26 Oct 2014
01:03:44pm
re: A double Variety

No I haven't seen another like it, although, as I mentioned I have seen other overprint kisses, but they are normally above the overprint rather than under it, It isn't bleeding ink, if you'll look closely at the mark under the S, there is a clear white background between the mark and the rest of the S, there is also another bit of red ink just below the top curve of the S. The second E has a complete horizontal bar under the lowest bar of the E, and under the lower leg on the N is a copy of the junture of the downward leg and upward leg of the N.

Take a look at my other thread " Another Departmental Variety" for a look at an overprint kiss at the top of the overprint. Which, by the way is a very interesting stamp. Makes you ask some quetions!


http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=9507#65622


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27 Oct 2014
09:10:37am
re: A double Variety

Moderator Bobby-is there a way to make the link cited above clickable?
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27 Oct 2014
11:12:03am
re: A double Variety

Falling down on the job again. Either it's the meds or the merlot.

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27 Oct 2014
12:04:26pm
re: A double Variety

"Falling down on the job again. Either it's the meds or the merlot."

Gotta be the meds, have lots of whine but no wine. Big Grin

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27 Oct 2014
04:01:08pm
re: A double Variety

Thanks Bobby-don't be so hard on yourself. Michael-you're a meanie.
Littleriverphil, the kiss identification is most interesting. Thank you for that.
Best,
Dan C.

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28 Oct 2014
07:27:41am
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Ah, but Dan, you see that Bobby acknowledged what I surmised.

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28 Oct 2014
09:53:13am
re: A double Variety

True Michael, and you were on target. Yet,being accurate/true is not the only criteria that we need to fulfill.We can be even better than that. I'm reminded of what my old professor taught to us eager/young clinicians so long ago:

"Ask yourself the following before you try to correct someone- 1)Is it true? 2)Is it necessary? 3)Is it kind?. If the answer to any of those is 'no'-you're better advised not to do it."

That advice has served me well over more years than you've been alive, and continues to do so.My ongoing problem is to try to keep it in mind. Sadly, I don't do it enough.

With respect,
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25 Oct 2014
12:47:49pm

As a collector of U.S. Departmental stamps, I am always looking for varieties. I found two in this one stamp. As one of the seven Departmental stamps printed from a 200 subject plate, I cannot tell if this Imprint capture is position 5L, 5R, 6L, or 6R as the inprint was placed above and below the center of each half of the sheet.

The other variety that this stamp displays is the kiss of the overprint. It is unusual as most kisses show on top of the overprint, this one is under the overprint. It shows strongly under the S, lightly under the I and again strongly under the second E and the N. I have to wonder why the other letters didn't leave a trace. Was it a double kiss? the kiss left by the S very closely matches the uninked spot in the bottom of the S.


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25 Oct 2014
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re: A double Variety

Hi Everyone;

I can't see anything there at all, except a stamp!! They should clone your eyes for the next Hubble telescope, hey? Laughing

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25 Oct 2014
09:16:35pm

re: A double Variety

Very interesting Littleriverphil,
So it's not just an inking bleed, but a constant variety? Have you found that pattern in other examples?
Dan C.

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26 Oct 2014
01:03:44pm

re: A double Variety

No I haven't seen another like it, although, as I mentioned I have seen other overprint kisses, but they are normally above the overprint rather than under it, It isn't bleeding ink, if you'll look closely at the mark under the S, there is a clear white background between the mark and the rest of the S, there is also another bit of red ink just below the top curve of the S. The second E has a complete horizontal bar under the lowest bar of the E, and under the lower leg on the N is a copy of the junture of the downward leg and upward leg of the N.

Take a look at my other thread " Another Departmental Variety" for a look at an overprint kiss at the top of the overprint. Which, by the way is a very interesting stamp. Makes you ask some quetions!


http://stamporama.com/discboard/disc_main.php?action=20&id=9507#65622


(Modified by Moderator on 2014-10-27 11:59:11)

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27 Oct 2014
09:10:37am

re: A double Variety

Moderator Bobby-is there a way to make the link cited above clickable?
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27 Oct 2014
11:12:03am

re: A double Variety

Falling down on the job again. Either it's the meds or the merlot.

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27 Oct 2014
12:04:26pm

re: A double Variety

"Falling down on the job again. Either it's the meds or the merlot."

Gotta be the meds, have lots of whine but no wine. Big Grin

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27 Oct 2014
04:01:08pm

re: A double Variety

Thanks Bobby-don't be so hard on yourself. Michael-you're a meanie.
Littleriverphil, the kiss identification is most interesting. Thank you for that.
Best,
Dan C.

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28 Oct 2014
07:27:41am

re: A double Variety

Ah, but Dan, you see that Bobby acknowledged what I surmised.

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28 Oct 2014
09:53:13am

re: A double Variety

True Michael, and you were on target. Yet,being accurate/true is not the only criteria that we need to fulfill.We can be even better than that. I'm reminded of what my old professor taught to us eager/young clinicians so long ago:

"Ask yourself the following before you try to correct someone- 1)Is it true? 2)Is it necessary? 3)Is it kind?. If the answer to any of those is 'no'-you're better advised not to do it."

That advice has served me well over more years than you've been alive, and continues to do so.My ongoing problem is to try to keep it in mind. Sadly, I don't do it enough.

With respect,
Dan C.



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