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Hi Everyone;
Those are some great tied-to-cover German stamps.
Now that we have educated you somewhat about scams, if you want to buy on eBay, it's okay. Just go slowly, start with low priced lots, and use common sense.
A common scam on there and on other places as well, is sellers that will take CTO stamps and soak off the gum in an attempt to pass off as postally used.
There was once a seller on eBay that was selling rubber stamps, of German canceling devices. Those could be used to fake cancels on German inflationary issues. If you look at the infamous issues with the super-inflation overprints, you will notice that mint copies can be had for pennies. Used copies cost many dollars more tho.
It looks like you have some very interesting material there from your grandfather, have fun with it.
Keep on stampin
Ken Tall Pines
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I'm having a great time looking through it and learning some of the things he collected. At some point, i will start a website about him and his collection. It is a really nice collection even if it lacks some of the rarer stamps. His collection has actually helped me get my collection off the ground.
Thanks again.
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Stan, these are nice.
Like you, i would prefer them on cover, but on piece is also nice. Some might consider a collection of cancels, and these could provide the basis from which start.
The Hindenburg stamps come w two different watermarks... A lozenge and a swastika.
Good start, stan
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David said, "The Hindenburg stamps come with two different watermarks... A lozenge and a swastika."
I've always wondered if Hindenburg knew about the swastika watermark. He had no love for Hitler, and Hitler had no love for him but had to accept stamps picturing Hindenburg because the man was incredibly popular. Wartime covers franked with Hindenburg stamps are common.
I picked the coil strip below at last week's stamp club meeting. It has the lozenge watermark. The seller's description isn't very clear; it seems to be Michel S109, valued at 60 Euros.
It wouldn't take much convincing for me to start a Hindenburg collection, which could include not only stamps and covers, but postal stationery as well, not to mention picture postcards. And then there is the airship Hindenburg. Another slippery slope!
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Nice strip Bob.
Hindenburg's and Germania's are the thorn in my side in my collection. (Ok, aside from my world QV which I end up giving up on after 10 minutes). The details of the Germania's and having to check every single watermark on Hindenburg's - drive me crazy.
'Tis true - no love lost between Hitler and Hindenburg.
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So, Hindenburg was President because he was a successful general and Hitler was head of the Wehrmacht because he was a successful Chancellor.
I don't know how interested Hindenburg was in the PO, but Hitler was maniacally involved with scores of stamps and commemorative cancels in addition to a long run of definitives (like Hindenburg had).
And Hitler heads are present on the stamps of many countries; probably only Lenin graces as many countries as Hitler.
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As a sidebar building on David's comments: Hitler was paid a royalty for every stamp that bore his likeness. I believe the idea came from Hitler's personal photographer Heinrich Hoffman (or possibly Albert Speer--he may have reported it in his first book) who suggested that Hitler's image was copyrighted and money could be collected as royalties. I do not know if the idea which began with the Hitler souvenir sheets of 1937, increasing Hitler's wealth man, extended to the wartime definitive issues. Hitler also hauled in a bundle on his book Mein Kampf.
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" ...If you look at the infamous issues with the super-inflation overprints, you will notice that mint copies can be had for pennies. Used copies cost many dollars more tho. ... "
Said high dollar used issues must have been used during the period when they were valid for postage, a length of time often measured in but a few days and generally certified by the "Infla" stamp group.
After they had become invalid some clever devils acquired genuine cancellation devices and produced cancelled stamps with what appear to be proper dates and locales, but usually can be verified (Or debunked) by suitable experts.
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I found these snippets of German cancels in my grandfather's collection. I wish I had the full covers, but I really think these are pretty cool. I think most of them are from the late '30s and then one I think is in the '50s. I haven't researched the stamps yet, but plan on doing that tonight.
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Hi Everyone;
Those are some great tied-to-cover German stamps.
Now that we have educated you somewhat about scams, if you want to buy on eBay, it's okay. Just go slowly, start with low priced lots, and use common sense.
A common scam on there and on other places as well, is sellers that will take CTO stamps and soak off the gum in an attempt to pass off as postally used.
There was once a seller on eBay that was selling rubber stamps, of German canceling devices. Those could be used to fake cancels on German inflationary issues. If you look at the infamous issues with the super-inflation overprints, you will notice that mint copies can be had for pennies. Used copies cost many dollars more tho.
It looks like you have some very interesting material there from your grandfather, have fun with it.
Keep on stampin
Ken Tall Pines
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I'm having a great time looking through it and learning some of the things he collected. At some point, i will start a website about him and his collection. It is a really nice collection even if it lacks some of the rarer stamps. His collection has actually helped me get my collection off the ground.
Thanks again.
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Stan, these are nice.
Like you, i would prefer them on cover, but on piece is also nice. Some might consider a collection of cancels, and these could provide the basis from which start.
The Hindenburg stamps come w two different watermarks... A lozenge and a swastika.
Good start, stan
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David said, "The Hindenburg stamps come with two different watermarks... A lozenge and a swastika."
I've always wondered if Hindenburg knew about the swastika watermark. He had no love for Hitler, and Hitler had no love for him but had to accept stamps picturing Hindenburg because the man was incredibly popular. Wartime covers franked with Hindenburg stamps are common.
I picked the coil strip below at last week's stamp club meeting. It has the lozenge watermark. The seller's description isn't very clear; it seems to be Michel S109, valued at 60 Euros.
It wouldn't take much convincing for me to start a Hindenburg collection, which could include not only stamps and covers, but postal stationery as well, not to mention picture postcards. And then there is the airship Hindenburg. Another slippery slope!
Bob
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Nice strip Bob.
Hindenburg's and Germania's are the thorn in my side in my collection. (Ok, aside from my world QV which I end up giving up on after 10 minutes). The details of the Germania's and having to check every single watermark on Hindenburg's - drive me crazy.
'Tis true - no love lost between Hitler and Hindenburg.
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So, Hindenburg was President because he was a successful general and Hitler was head of the Wehrmacht because he was a successful Chancellor.
I don't know how interested Hindenburg was in the PO, but Hitler was maniacally involved with scores of stamps and commemorative cancels in addition to a long run of definitives (like Hindenburg had).
And Hitler heads are present on the stamps of many countries; probably only Lenin graces as many countries as Hitler.
David
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21 Sep 2014
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More Germany cancels of the period, for your enjoyment:
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As a sidebar building on David's comments: Hitler was paid a royalty for every stamp that bore his likeness. I believe the idea came from Hitler's personal photographer Heinrich Hoffman (or possibly Albert Speer--he may have reported it in his first book) who suggested that Hitler's image was copyrighted and money could be collected as royalties. I do not know if the idea which began with the Hitler souvenir sheets of 1937, increasing Hitler's wealth man, extended to the wartime definitive issues. Hitler also hauled in a bundle on his book Mein Kampf.
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" ...If you look at the infamous issues with the super-inflation overprints, you will notice that mint copies can be had for pennies. Used copies cost many dollars more tho. ... "
Said high dollar used issues must have been used during the period when they were valid for postage, a length of time often measured in but a few days and generally certified by the "Infla" stamp group.
After they had become invalid some clever devils acquired genuine cancellation devices and produced cancelled stamps with what appear to be proper dates and locales, but usually can be verified (Or debunked) by suitable experts.
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