Here are some slogan cancels from my collection.
Here's one of the first day covers that I've found in the collection. I think it's cool.
One of my favourite U.S. stamps! And, like many of you, I well remember the first moon landing.
True story: When I was wounded in Vietnam, I was evacuated to San Diego for a long stay at Balboa Naval Hospital. Susan and I became engaged soon after my admission. She had just graduated from Western New Mexico University and wanted to stay in San Diego until she had to go to Kansas City, Kansas to start her first teaching job.
My dad was the founder and "CEO" of the American Kitefliers Association, which is still a going concern, although my dad died in 1995. One of the members was Francis Rogallo, inventor of the parawing glider, which NASA was considering to use to return the Apollo 11 astronauts to earth; Ryan Aeronautical of San Diego was working on the project (which was eventually rejected in favour of parachutes). Dad asked Francis if he could get Susan a job at Ryan. No problem!
Susan had to take a typing test at Ryan, and she passed with flying colours. (Our parents had insisted that we each take typing in high school.) When she completed the test, the gentleman administering the test asked her if she knew someone at Ryan, because he had been told to pass her even if she couldn't type!
Susan worked the rest of that summer in the typing pool at Ryan. Her primary job was "correcting" engineering documents by whiting out "Lunar Excursion Module" and "LEM," and retyping them as "Lunar Module" and "LM". It seems that some executive or politician with little to do had decided that the word "excursion" implied that the astronauts were going on a holiday jaunt rather than a serious exploration!
How times have changed. The hours she spent retyping those documents would probably take a few minutes today with a global "find/change" command.
As you can imagine, we watched the moon landing three years later with a bit more interest and knowledge than most people.
Bob
Heres one i picked up at the Hartford show a week or so ago...i thought the anti alcoholism slogan was interesting on an Italian cover. I was stationed in Italy in the service and although the Italians certainly drink alcoholic drinks..to be inebriated was something that was highly frowned upon !!
"That is truly a beautiful 'fancy cancel', but that is not a slogan cancel! You should remove and replace with a slogan cancel. Beginners come here to learn stuff, and that will only confuse them even more than they already are!"
"A fancy cancel is a postal cancellation that includes an artistic design. Although the term may be used of modern machine cancellations that include artwork, it primarily refers to the designs carved in cork and used in 19th century post offices of the United States. "
It definitely does Alyn. I made a mistake as a "newbie", only one day in this group, and will move it to covers and start a new thread. I apologize for not completely reading and following instructions.
Thanks.
Stan
Stan,
Pretty sure that post about fancy cancels does not apply to your picture. While your's is not a slogan cancel, it's not a big deal that you put it here. Others still like to look and we got another good story out of Bobstamp!
Welcome to Stamporama and keep on posting!
Sally
"It definitely does Alyn. I made a mistake as a "newbie", only one day in this group"
Thanks Alyn. Mine is a first day cover and definitely not a slogan cancel. Where should I put it?
Stan
I would leave it here Stan. No worries.
Alyn
Stan
Please note that just because another member disagrees with your interpretation doesn't necessarily mean that he is right. Disagreements (with civility) are common here, as you will learn, and that is part of the fun.
Now if a moderator has an opinion, it is always right!
Well this at least has stirred some interest. There also seems to be a difference of opinion as what constitutes a 'slogan'.
I had anticipated this. Before posting my cover I checked elsewhere. Here in the UK, covers with markings such as the 'wedding bells with E & P', are referred to as slogan cancellations. Deb's cover which I hope will appear on this thread, is also considered to have a slogan cancellation; it only has 'bells surmounted by V' (denoting Victory in Europe, following the surrender of Germany).
Perhaps the following definition could be used to help steer what is posted:
Slogans, whether used for advertising purpose or social causes, deliver a message to the public that shapes the audiences’ opinion towards the subject of the slogan.
I personally have a liking for 'social' slogans, such as that just posted by philb. Had I had something similar to that at hand, I would have used it in my opening post. I'm having a little trouble with my scanner at the moment so had to use what was already in my files.
Perhaps as members post some more, the thread will settle into the right groove.
Sometimes slogans were applied separately as cachets. They were not part of a machine cancel but were applied by hand. These may not have been officially sanctioned but were tolerated by the postal authorities. It would be good to see these as well.
So in essence, the slogan shouldn't really be an instructional marking, or a FDC cachet. It should be a message directed at the general public.
And thus we are baptized into Stamporama
These are victory bells celebrating the end of WW II in Britain, used in May 1945. I don't know the precise dates it was used. Anyone?
The 'Victory Bells' postmarks were used from 8 May to 9 June, and again from 15 August to 15 September 1945. Some 400 slogan dies were produced and sent in sealed packages to all postmasters in (believe it or not) 1943.
These were to be opened only on subsequent instructions when peace broke out. The arrangements worked remarkably well, the only cases of premature usage being reported from Birmingham on 22 April and London W1 on 7 May.
Try finding those two premature ones!
Thanks Deb.
I should add that the later usage dates were used for 'Victory in Japan', after the surrender.
Does this qualify as a slogan postmark? Perhaps. I've always considered slogans to more pertinent to national causes (with many dies produced and distributed) than local ones.
Some ambitious collector with more time to spare than I have could make quite a collection matching dates with zipcodes.
Bravo Clive! Thanks for the dates!
Heres a Red Cross slogan on a cover some joker mailed using a phoney stamp !
I believe that the three slogan cancels shown below are, unequivocally, slogan cancels! These three are from my first philatelic exhibit, "In a Time of Need: 1939
1949 — Wartime & Postwar Austerity in Great Britain". They were used a great deal during the war, i.e. they're not hard to find, although particular dates and places are more difficult than others.
I scanned and slightly cropped three pages from my exhibit. The first is "GROW MORE FOOD / DIG FOR VICTORY":
Next is "HELP TO WIN/ ON THE / KITCHEN FRONT":
Finally, " SAVE WASTE / PAPER METALS / BONES RAGS". (Bones? Why bones? Glycerin and gelatine was extracted from bones to make explosives.
Neutral Ireland used similar "save bread" cancels, which Britain also used in the lean postwar years.
An odd "missing slogan" from wartime Great Britain is something along the lines of "Conserve Coal," which was in short supply during the war. With the outbreak of war, thousands of British coal miners joined the army in the belief, not far from the truth, that combat was more pleasant and safer than mining coal. The government responded by ordering soldiers into the coal mines, but had to coerce them with the promise of the right to strike, which the soldiers-cum-miners took full advantage of. Coal, of course, was a vital wartime commodity, not to keep peoples houses and flats warm, but to power the British fleet, much of which burned coal rather than oil.
Collect Canadian postal history? The Postal History Society of Canada offers a database of Canadian slogan cancels on its web site. Canadian wartime slogan cancels were similar to those of Great Britain, and included a "save coal" cancel in both French and English if memory serves.
Bob
I think local ones are really good. In some respects better, in that they are tailored to promote a community service, remind people of some local issues or blow the bugle for events and even historical anniversaries.
Bob, those are little crackers! I actually have never seen these before. I knew about the campaigns but didn't realise these existed.
I hope I can be excused as I don't collect GB. However, you have now inspired me to look for these.
Nude bathing on Brighton Beach in 1955...
"Can Do!" Navy Seabees 25th Anniversary Slogan Cancel on the Four Chaplains issue. Too bad it's hard to make out, though.
I found this slogan cancel on-line:
Bob
This rather ratty postcard is in my collection:
Bob
I found this gem in a cheap kiloware packet. Truthfully, I thought it was sad. Does anyone know anything about such direct advertising in a postmark?
Finally, a collecting area that I definitely don't want to indulge in! On the other hand, I do collect chickens on stamps…. Hmmm….
But, is that a seagull? I knew it! KFC serves finger-lickin'-good seagull!
boB
PostMarkMaven wrote:
"I found this gem in a cheap kiloware packet. Truthfully, I thought it was sad. Does anyone know anything about such direct advertising in a postmark? "
Hi everyone;
Altho advertising cancels aren't slogan cancels, they are still pretty interesting tho. I have several from Great Britain. One has an ad for 'Quality Street' a fancy candy made by Nestle's, and is often seen on mail near Christmas time. Another one I have is for Washington state apples, and one with a girl in a bikini carrying a surf board, I've no idea what they are advertising tho.
Seems they do a lot of those in England.
Keep on stampin
Ken Tall Pines
From my collection of Cardiology on Stamps....
FROM Canada...
FROM the United States...
... and my personal favourite....
Thank-you for supporting the Canadian Heart and Stroke Foundation!
David
Here is one of my favorites. Sorry about the quality but it was taken from my phone.
Alyn
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Alyn, do you know when this slogan was used? Is is still in use?
I don't actually recall seeing anything similar here in the UK. Perhaps others know differently.
Brian, you've posted a couple of nice ones there. Never seen a Corn Flakes one before nor the philatelic one; 'Get stuck into stamps'.
This is one of the most widely used postmarks in US history. Still pertinent, eh?
Sorry Ningpo I have no idea when that was in use.
Here are a few more
Here are a few from a box of covers I have been sorting tonight:
A few more. Great thread for showing some of our newer collectors what's out there!
Roy,
That's a nice selection of very clear slogans. I wonder what the Eire slogan translates to.
Coincidentally, I picked this postcard up today at a local fair. Another Norwich slogan.
I hadn't seen this 'binocular postcode' type before, nor the odd arrangement of the index letter/number on the cds.
Thanks to Google translate:
Faigh Ceadunas Dod Radio = Get Your Radio License
Seems to be a lot of those slogans!
Roy
Here's one I received today, which is a refreshing change
from the run of the mill slogans we seem to get nowadays,
albeit printed rather badly. Promoting the Ryder Cup at Gleneagles, Scotland 2014.
The printing on the stamp is: Royal Mail - Medway - Mail Centre - 13/09/2014:
Possibly the most used slogan of all time but what a lovely crisp machine cancel.
I just wish the rest of the UK would follow suit. Good on you Guernsey Post!
I've just found the reason for the high quality: new Siemens inkjet cancelling machines.
A rather gruesome use of a slogan postmark. The Yorkshire Police force commissioned this to help catch the Yorkshire ripper, Peter Sutcliffe.
This is one of a number of GB slogan postmarks I picked up today. This is a complete cover with an unusual American connection,
with just a portion of it enlarged at hi-res:
Call me old fashioned but I find that a padlock and chain is a little more robust:
I thought I would start a new thread dedicated to slogan cancellations, preferably not those common ones like 'use your zip code', or 'correct addressing saves delay' etc.
I have just been in contact with PostMarkHaven (Deb) about a cover she posted in another more generalised thread.
As I had just stumbled across it, I thought that it would have been better placed under a topic heading that was easy to find and specific.
I'm sure there are members here who perhaps feel intimidated by posting their little gems, thinking that nobody would be interested. The point is that no question need be asked, just post it. If there are questions though; even better.
It would be nice if posters could supply information if any is known. We all like to be educated.
I have started this in the category 'Worldwide', for obvious reasons.
I hope this is met with some approval.
I'll start the ball rolling with a cover which I briefly discussed with 'Deb'.
This is a self addressed envelope to Sir Raymond Birchall, on the day of the wedding of Elizabeth II and Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh:
Sir Raymond was Director General of the (British) Post Office. Note that he had to countersign his own envelope. Below is the reverse:
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Here are some slogan cancels from my collection.
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Here's one of the first day covers that I've found in the collection. I think it's cool.
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One of my favourite U.S. stamps! And, like many of you, I well remember the first moon landing.
True story: When I was wounded in Vietnam, I was evacuated to San Diego for a long stay at Balboa Naval Hospital. Susan and I became engaged soon after my admission. She had just graduated from Western New Mexico University and wanted to stay in San Diego until she had to go to Kansas City, Kansas to start her first teaching job.
My dad was the founder and "CEO" of the American Kitefliers Association, which is still a going concern, although my dad died in 1995. One of the members was Francis Rogallo, inventor of the parawing glider, which NASA was considering to use to return the Apollo 11 astronauts to earth; Ryan Aeronautical of San Diego was working on the project (which was eventually rejected in favour of parachutes). Dad asked Francis if he could get Susan a job at Ryan. No problem!
Susan had to take a typing test at Ryan, and she passed with flying colours. (Our parents had insisted that we each take typing in high school.) When she completed the test, the gentleman administering the test asked her if she knew someone at Ryan, because he had been told to pass her even if she couldn't type!
Susan worked the rest of that summer in the typing pool at Ryan. Her primary job was "correcting" engineering documents by whiting out "Lunar Excursion Module" and "LEM," and retyping them as "Lunar Module" and "LM". It seems that some executive or politician with little to do had decided that the word "excursion" implied that the astronauts were going on a holiday jaunt rather than a serious exploration!
How times have changed. The hours she spent retyping those documents would probably take a few minutes today with a global "find/change" command.
As you can imagine, we watched the moon landing three years later with a bit more interest and knowledge than most people.
Bob
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Heres one i picked up at the Hartford show a week or so ago...i thought the anti alcoholism slogan was interesting on an Italian cover. I was stationed in Italy in the service and although the Italians certainly drink alcoholic drinks..to be inebriated was something that was highly frowned upon !!
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"That is truly a beautiful 'fancy cancel', but that is not a slogan cancel! You should remove and replace with a slogan cancel. Beginners come here to learn stuff, and that will only confuse them even more than they already are!"
"A fancy cancel is a postal cancellation that includes an artistic design. Although the term may be used of modern machine cancellations that include artwork, it primarily refers to the designs carved in cork and used in 19th century post offices of the United States. "
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It definitely does Alyn. I made a mistake as a "newbie", only one day in this group, and will move it to covers and start a new thread. I apologize for not completely reading and following instructions.
Thanks.
Stan
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Stan,
Pretty sure that post about fancy cancels does not apply to your picture. While your's is not a slogan cancel, it's not a big deal that you put it here. Others still like to look and we got another good story out of Bobstamp!
Welcome to Stamporama and keep on posting!
Sally
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"It definitely does Alyn. I made a mistake as a "newbie", only one day in this group"
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Thanks Alyn. Mine is a first day cover and definitely not a slogan cancel. Where should I put it?
Stan
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I would leave it here Stan. No worries.
Alyn
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Stan
Please note that just because another member disagrees with your interpretation doesn't necessarily mean that he is right. Disagreements (with civility) are common here, as you will learn, and that is part of the fun.
Now if a moderator has an opinion, it is always right!
re: Show us your slogan cancels
Well this at least has stirred some interest. There also seems to be a difference of opinion as what constitutes a 'slogan'.
I had anticipated this. Before posting my cover I checked elsewhere. Here in the UK, covers with markings such as the 'wedding bells with E & P', are referred to as slogan cancellations. Deb's cover which I hope will appear on this thread, is also considered to have a slogan cancellation; it only has 'bells surmounted by V' (denoting Victory in Europe, following the surrender of Germany).
Perhaps the following definition could be used to help steer what is posted:
Slogans, whether used for advertising purpose or social causes, deliver a message to the public that shapes the audiences’ opinion towards the subject of the slogan.
I personally have a liking for 'social' slogans, such as that just posted by philb. Had I had something similar to that at hand, I would have used it in my opening post. I'm having a little trouble with my scanner at the moment so had to use what was already in my files.
Perhaps as members post some more, the thread will settle into the right groove.
Sometimes slogans were applied separately as cachets. They were not part of a machine cancel but were applied by hand. These may not have been officially sanctioned but were tolerated by the postal authorities. It would be good to see these as well.
So in essence, the slogan shouldn't really be an instructional marking, or a FDC cachet. It should be a message directed at the general public.
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And thus we are baptized into Stamporama
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These are victory bells celebrating the end of WW II in Britain, used in May 1945. I don't know the precise dates it was used. Anyone?
re: Show us your slogan cancels
The 'Victory Bells' postmarks were used from 8 May to 9 June, and again from 15 August to 15 September 1945. Some 400 slogan dies were produced and sent in sealed packages to all postmasters in (believe it or not) 1943.
These were to be opened only on subsequent instructions when peace broke out. The arrangements worked remarkably well, the only cases of premature usage being reported from Birmingham on 22 April and London W1 on 7 May.
Try finding those two premature ones!
Thanks Deb.
I should add that the later usage dates were used for 'Victory in Japan', after the surrender.
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Does this qualify as a slogan postmark? Perhaps. I've always considered slogans to more pertinent to national causes (with many dies produced and distributed) than local ones.
Some ambitious collector with more time to spare than I have could make quite a collection matching dates with zipcodes.
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Bravo Clive! Thanks for the dates!
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Heres a Red Cross slogan on a cover some joker mailed using a phoney stamp !
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I believe that the three slogan cancels shown below are, unequivocally, slogan cancels! These three are from my first philatelic exhibit, "In a Time of Need: 1939
1949 — Wartime & Postwar Austerity in Great Britain". They were used a great deal during the war, i.e. they're not hard to find, although particular dates and places are more difficult than others.
I scanned and slightly cropped three pages from my exhibit. The first is "GROW MORE FOOD / DIG FOR VICTORY":
Next is "HELP TO WIN/ ON THE / KITCHEN FRONT":
Finally, " SAVE WASTE / PAPER METALS / BONES RAGS". (Bones? Why bones? Glycerin and gelatine was extracted from bones to make explosives.
Neutral Ireland used similar "save bread" cancels, which Britain also used in the lean postwar years.
An odd "missing slogan" from wartime Great Britain is something along the lines of "Conserve Coal," which was in short supply during the war. With the outbreak of war, thousands of British coal miners joined the army in the belief, not far from the truth, that combat was more pleasant and safer than mining coal. The government responded by ordering soldiers into the coal mines, but had to coerce them with the promise of the right to strike, which the soldiers-cum-miners took full advantage of. Coal, of course, was a vital wartime commodity, not to keep peoples houses and flats warm, but to power the British fleet, much of which burned coal rather than oil.
Collect Canadian postal history? The Postal History Society of Canada offers a database of Canadian slogan cancels on its web site. Canadian wartime slogan cancels were similar to those of Great Britain, and included a "save coal" cancel in both French and English if memory serves.
Bob
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I think local ones are really good. In some respects better, in that they are tailored to promote a community service, remind people of some local issues or blow the bugle for events and even historical anniversaries.
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Bob, those are little crackers! I actually have never seen these before. I knew about the campaigns but didn't realise these existed.
I hope I can be excused as I don't collect GB. However, you have now inspired me to look for these.
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Nude bathing on Brighton Beach in 1955...
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"Can Do!" Navy Seabees 25th Anniversary Slogan Cancel on the Four Chaplains issue. Too bad it's hard to make out, though.
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I found this slogan cancel on-line:
Bob
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This rather ratty postcard is in my collection:
Bob
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I found this gem in a cheap kiloware packet. Truthfully, I thought it was sad. Does anyone know anything about such direct advertising in a postmark?
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Finally, a collecting area that I definitely don't want to indulge in! On the other hand, I do collect chickens on stamps…. Hmmm….
But, is that a seagull? I knew it! KFC serves finger-lickin'-good seagull!
boB
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PostMarkMaven wrote:
"I found this gem in a cheap kiloware packet. Truthfully, I thought it was sad. Does anyone know anything about such direct advertising in a postmark? "
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Hi everyone;
Altho advertising cancels aren't slogan cancels, they are still pretty interesting tho. I have several from Great Britain. One has an ad for 'Quality Street' a fancy candy made by Nestle's, and is often seen on mail near Christmas time. Another one I have is for Washington state apples, and one with a girl in a bikini carrying a surf board, I've no idea what they are advertising tho.
Seems they do a lot of those in England.
Keep on stampin
Ken Tall Pines
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From my collection of Cardiology on Stamps....
FROM Canada...
FROM the United States...
... and my personal favourite....
Thank-you for supporting the Canadian Heart and Stroke Foundation!
David
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Here is one of my favorites. Sorry about the quality but it was taken from my phone.
Alyn
(Modified by Moderator on 2015-10-26 23:28:26)
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Alyn, do you know when this slogan was used? Is is still in use?
I don't actually recall seeing anything similar here in the UK. Perhaps others know differently.
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Brian, you've posted a couple of nice ones there. Never seen a Corn Flakes one before nor the philatelic one; 'Get stuck into stamps'.
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This is one of the most widely used postmarks in US history. Still pertinent, eh?
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Sorry Ningpo I have no idea when that was in use.
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Here are a few more
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Here are a few from a box of covers I have been sorting tonight:
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A few more. Great thread for showing some of our newer collectors what's out there!
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Roy,
That's a nice selection of very clear slogans. I wonder what the Eire slogan translates to.
Coincidentally, I picked this postcard up today at a local fair. Another Norwich slogan.
I hadn't seen this 'binocular postcode' type before, nor the odd arrangement of the index letter/number on the cds.
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Thanks to Google translate:
Faigh Ceadunas Dod Radio = Get Your Radio License
Seems to be a lot of those slogans!
Roy
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Here's one I received today, which is a refreshing change
from the run of the mill slogans we seem to get nowadays,
albeit printed rather badly. Promoting the Ryder Cup at Gleneagles, Scotland 2014.
The printing on the stamp is: Royal Mail - Medway - Mail Centre - 13/09/2014:
re: Show us your slogan cancels
Possibly the most used slogan of all time but what a lovely crisp machine cancel.
I just wish the rest of the UK would follow suit. Good on you Guernsey Post!
I've just found the reason for the high quality: new Siemens inkjet cancelling machines.
re: Show us your slogan cancels
A rather gruesome use of a slogan postmark. The Yorkshire Police force commissioned this to help catch the Yorkshire ripper, Peter Sutcliffe.
re: Show us your slogan cancels
This is one of a number of GB slogan postmarks I picked up today. This is a complete cover with an unusual American connection,
with just a portion of it enlarged at hi-res:
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Call me old fashioned but I find that a padlock and chain is a little more robust: