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18 Aug 2014
05:51:50pm

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This is a new "game", or challenge. Can you identify this stamp. Please feel free to add your mystery stamps.
I will be adding difficult stamps to id (for me anyway), and I urge you to do the same.
I will post the answer later (if I know it).
Starting with 2 stamps...and I don't know the answer, plus one from Transjordan that I cannot identify the o/p....
So post your answers:
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Liz

18 Aug 2014
06:14:45pm
re: Identify me challenge.

#1 - Albania - From Scott #379-383 set. Counterfeits exist.

http://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=31482

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Jlav

18 Aug 2014
06:15:36pm
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The top stamp is an Albanian poster stamp for the 1946 International Womans Congress.

The middle stamp is a Norwegian local stamp for the city of Aalseund.

Working on the Jordan stamp.

Jacques.

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Jlav

18 Aug 2014
06:20:29pm
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Liz is correct on the Albania stamp.

Jacques.

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18 Aug 2014
06:21:32pm
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The Jordan stamp is probably part of the 1943 set. I don't have a Scott catalogue for the 'T' countries.

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18 Aug 2014
06:37:08pm
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The Jordan stamp is a revenue stamp from 1930.

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18 Aug 2014
06:59:25pm

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One more for your fun.
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Jlav

18 Aug 2014
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From Turkey probably a revenue stamp.

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18 Aug 2014
07:19:38pm
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That's a very nice stamp indeed rrr!

It's a Turkish Hejaz Railway revenue from 1912.

I've not seen it before except as a black and white illustration in the catalogue.

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18 Aug 2014
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Niguel, you collect Revenue, if I am not wrong? Yours if you want it.

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19 Aug 2014
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How about this one? Notice anything strange?
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19 Aug 2014
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The color on the top is different from the rest of the stamp. That could be a stain.

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19 Aug 2014
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Naaahhh photograph lighting. But if you look closely, color is one thing I noticed: The o/p has two different color, purple and black...but that is not it! Plus, can you identify the stamp?
rrr..

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19 Aug 2014
06:55:45pm
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"The o/p has two different color, purple and black...but that is not it! Plus, can you identify the stamp?"



As of now, I am unable to see what is strange about it. Anyway, the stamp type is 1917 Turkey semi-postal (Scott B46). However, as of now, I have no information on the overprint (the top overprint is a bit hard to read, but trying!)

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19 Aug 2014
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while the base stamp is indeed a Turkey semi postal B46, it is however incorrect...Turkey stamps were used everywhere in the Ottoman empire territories. This one has a unique story that goes with it as well.

As for the "mystery" strange thing I noted, it is quite something!
rrr...

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20 Aug 2014
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Still puzzled?
Well, here is an additional photo of two stamps, the one on the Right is the one that has the "strange thing", while the other one is the normal stamp. Need I say more?
Still, with all the expertise we have here, does anyone have an idea for the country, let alone the catalog number or year?
rrr... (apologizing for any induced headache)

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20 Aug 2014
02:42:33pm
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Hi rrr,

"Niguel, you collect Revenue, if I am not wrong? Yours if you want it.

rrr..."



Thank you very much - that's very kind.Happy

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20 Aug 2014
02:50:13pm
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Hi rrr,

The new puzzle stamp is Syria (Arab Kingdom) SG K73 but with an inverted 4m surcharge.Happy

Very nice.

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20 Aug 2014
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Well done Nigel!
For those using Scott, it is Syrian Arabian Government(SAG) Scott #16.

Following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, and after the British Military Occupation, France and England partitioned the area and France controlled the Syria/Lebanon/Alaouites/Alexandretta/Latakia/Hatai/Rouad region. The Syrian territories were initially set as an Arab Kingdom from 1918 to 1920. King Faisal (Also the king of Irak) was deposed in Syria in July 1920. French military Occupation followed, until the territories were mandated to France in 1922.
The Syrian Arabian Government used Turkish stamps with the special overprint from 1918 to 1920....and many stamps were also surcharged with new values. Since most were hand-stamped, errors are fairly common. However the stamps of the SAG are really difficult to find, and generally fetch a fairly good price.

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21 Aug 2014
01:44:18pm

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re: Identify me challenge.

Here is another puzzler..and I don't know what it is...China no doubt, but what?
I usually keep a small envelope with these mystery stamps. Do you?
Interested in more?
rrr...
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Jlav

21 Aug 2014
02:06:18pm
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Chefoo(now known as Yantai) is a treaty port.

http://www.groseducationalmedia.ca/vsc/chefoo1.html


(Modified by Moderator on 2014-08-21 14:41:41)

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18 Jul 2019
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From an old post..that went nowhere...At Wits End
Here is a new ID me challenge.
Identifying this stamp may be a bit easier, but....
What is wrong about this stamp? (and I don't refer to the perforation)

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Calstamp

18 Jul 2019
05:15:09pm
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Overprint applied after cancellation?

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19 Jul 2019
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"Overprint applied after cancellation?"


no I don't think so..anyway, that is not what I spotted.
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19 Jul 2019
05:20:40am

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it looks like Egypt #1, but the Arabic overprint is different from the one I see in the catalogue (especially the part at the bottom)

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Calstamp

19 Jul 2019
09:33:18am
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A proof that someone tried to perforate?

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Calstamp

19 Jul 2019
09:39:52am
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Agree with Jansimon. The bottom (lower horizontal) overprint appears to be different from the example presented in the Scott catalogue.

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19 Jul 2019
10:00:22am

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Searched a bit further and found that this 5 Paras stamp has the 20 Paras overprint.

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19 Jul 2019
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re: Identify me challenge.

Very well done Jansimon. Eagle eyes!
This was not an easy one!
Here are Egypt #1 to #3. You can see that my challenge stamp is the 5 para (#1) but the overprint (check the bottom part) is normally found on the #3, the 20 para stamp.

A major error? Unfortunately I don't think so. A crude counterfeit stamp trying to masquerade as a rare error.

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and the challenge stamp for comparison:

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Retired Consultant APS#186030
18 Aug 2014
05:51:50pm

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This is a new "game", or challenge. Can you identify this stamp. Please feel free to add your mystery stamps.
I will be adding difficult stamps to id (for me anyway), and I urge you to do the same.
I will post the answer later (if I know it).
Starting with 2 stamps...and I don't know the answer, plus one from Transjordan that I cannot identify the o/p....
So post your answers:
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Liz
18 Aug 2014
06:14:45pm

re: Identify me challenge.

#1 - Albania - From Scott #379-383 set. Counterfeits exist.

http://www.stampcommunity.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=31482

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Jlav

18 Aug 2014
06:15:36pm

re: Identify me challenge.

The top stamp is an Albanian poster stamp for the 1946 International Womans Congress.

The middle stamp is a Norwegian local stamp for the city of Aalseund.

Working on the Jordan stamp.

Jacques.

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Jlav

18 Aug 2014
06:20:29pm

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Liz is correct on the Albania stamp.

Jacques.

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18 Aug 2014
06:21:32pm

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The Jordan stamp is probably part of the 1943 set. I don't have a Scott catalogue for the 'T' countries.

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18 Aug 2014
06:37:08pm

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The Jordan stamp is a revenue stamp from 1930.

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18 Aug 2014
06:59:25pm

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re: Identify me challenge.

One more for your fun.
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18 Aug 2014
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From Turkey probably a revenue stamp.

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18 Aug 2014
07:19:38pm

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That's a very nice stamp indeed rrr!

It's a Turkish Hejaz Railway revenue from 1912.

I've not seen it before except as a black and white illustration in the catalogue.

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Niguel, you collect Revenue, if I am not wrong? Yours if you want it.

rrr...

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19 Aug 2014
04:24:05pm

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re: Identify me challenge.

How about this one? Notice anything strange?
rrr..
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19 Aug 2014
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The color on the top is different from the rest of the stamp. That could be a stain.

Doug

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19 Aug 2014
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re: Identify me challenge.

Naaahhh photograph lighting. But if you look closely, color is one thing I noticed: The o/p has two different color, purple and black...but that is not it! Plus, can you identify the stamp?
rrr..

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19 Aug 2014
06:55:45pm

re: Identify me challenge.

"The o/p has two different color, purple and black...but that is not it! Plus, can you identify the stamp?"



As of now, I am unable to see what is strange about it. Anyway, the stamp type is 1917 Turkey semi-postal (Scott B46). However, as of now, I have no information on the overprint (the top overprint is a bit hard to read, but trying!)

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re: Identify me challenge.

while the base stamp is indeed a Turkey semi postal B46, it is however incorrect...Turkey stamps were used everywhere in the Ottoman empire territories. This one has a unique story that goes with it as well.

As for the "mystery" strange thing I noted, it is quite something!
rrr...

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re: Identify me challenge.

Still puzzled?
Well, here is an additional photo of two stamps, the one on the Right is the one that has the "strange thing", while the other one is the normal stamp. Need I say more?
Still, with all the expertise we have here, does anyone have an idea for the country, let alone the catalog number or year?
rrr... (apologizing for any induced headache)

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20 Aug 2014
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Hi rrr,

"Niguel, you collect Revenue, if I am not wrong? Yours if you want it.

rrr..."



Thank you very much - that's very kind.Happy

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20 Aug 2014
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Hi rrr,

The new puzzle stamp is Syria (Arab Kingdom) SG K73 but with an inverted 4m surcharge.Happy

Very nice.

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re: Identify me challenge.

Well done Nigel!
For those using Scott, it is Syrian Arabian Government(SAG) Scott #16.

Following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, and after the British Military Occupation, France and England partitioned the area and France controlled the Syria/Lebanon/Alaouites/Alexandretta/Latakia/Hatai/Rouad region. The Syrian territories were initially set as an Arab Kingdom from 1918 to 1920. King Faisal (Also the king of Irak) was deposed in Syria in July 1920. French military Occupation followed, until the territories were mandated to France in 1922.
The Syrian Arabian Government used Turkish stamps with the special overprint from 1918 to 1920....and many stamps were also surcharged with new values. Since most were hand-stamped, errors are fairly common. However the stamps of the SAG are really difficult to find, and generally fetch a fairly good price.

rrr...

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re: Identify me challenge.

Here is another puzzler..and I don't know what it is...China no doubt, but what?
I usually keep a small envelope with these mystery stamps. Do you?
Interested in more?
rrr...
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21 Aug 2014
02:06:18pm

re: Identify me challenge.

Chefoo(now known as Yantai) is a treaty port.

http://www.groseducationalmedia.ca/vsc/chefoo1.html


(Modified by Moderator on 2014-08-21 14:41:41)

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re: Identify me challenge.

From an old post..that went nowhere...At Wits End
Here is a new ID me challenge.
Identifying this stamp may be a bit easier, but....
What is wrong about this stamp? (and I don't refer to the perforation)

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18 Jul 2019
05:15:09pm

re: Identify me challenge.


Overprint applied after cancellation?

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re: Identify me challenge.

"Overprint applied after cancellation?"


no I don't think so..anyway, that is not what I spotted.
rrr...

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19 Jul 2019
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re: Identify me challenge.

it looks like Egypt #1, but the Arabic overprint is different from the one I see in the catalogue (especially the part at the bottom)

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Calstamp

19 Jul 2019
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A proof that someone tried to perforate?

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19 Jul 2019
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Agree with Jansimon. The bottom (lower horizontal) overprint appears to be different from the example presented in the Scott catalogue.

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19 Jul 2019
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re: Identify me challenge.

Searched a bit further and found that this 5 Paras stamp has the 20 Paras overprint.

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19 Jul 2019
11:34:50am

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re: Identify me challenge.

Very well done Jansimon. Eagle eyes!
This was not an easy one!
Here are Egypt #1 to #3. You can see that my challenge stamp is the 5 para (#1) but the overprint (check the bottom part) is normally found on the #3, the 20 para stamp.

A major error? Unfortunately I don't think so. A crude counterfeit stamp trying to masquerade as a rare error.

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and the challenge stamp for comparison:

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